Deloittes, world football’s financial authority, today estimated English Premier League revenues will drop by 20%, or £1bn, due to the crisis, a figure that will soften slightly – if they manage to complete this season. Question is, will a 20% drop cause systemic problems? I’m not sure.
Unlike the Premier League, the Scottish Premiership and the lower leagues in both England and Scotland, are heavily dependent on match day revenue. The SPFL’s agreement with Sky addressed some of the danger, but our game is significantly more vulnerable than the Premiership. The lower leagues in England have some of the worst metrics in world football. If I was looking for systemic problems, the EFL would draw the eye.
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No sooner had I posted, re an SPFL of 46 clubs, then I read that Neil Doncaster thinks there is enough support for a 14-10-10-10 solution. (It’s like life imitating art, if you a have poetic license that is.) This would avoid relegation for Hearts, Partick and er the mighty Stranraer. The 46 club proposal was of course for the benefit of the Colts, this one’s for the donkeys.
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IniquitousIv @ 1:32 thanks for the response will get your details to Ross, have’nt seen him for ages so don’t know what spurred him on with the shirt, hope you like it. would have been good to meet up again but maybe next year. Stay safe Hail Hail Hebcelt
G-D
I would also subscribe to the shared ST model…
HH
Slabhoy
I’d also be intereted in that. I’d much rather give the money to a Celtic fan ( and ultimately the club) if it might help someone keep a seat they’ve had for years. 👍🍀
As opposed to Lining Sky’s pockets, I should have added.
So is the answer we just go to the larger Celtic family and share the price with them?
I love the idea of sticking it right up Sky’s erchie!
An Tearmann – thank you.
Will check out SwissRamble
His/her output routinely excellent.
If the new format goes to 14-10-10-10
How many times do we play each team.
How can the spfl get 4 games against themz for sky sports.
David 66 have you heard anything from Big Jimmy? Catch answer in the morning. Good night gentlemen
HH
Newradbhoy –
14 team league
Play everyone home and away = 26 games.
Split at tgatpount into Top6 and Bottom 8
A further round of home and away games (10 for top teams, 14 for bottom teams)
Top 6 will then have played each other home and away twice – very fair and 36 games. Bottom 8 play 40 games,the extra 2 home games helping to make up for only having Us and Them visiting them once.
Simples!
NEWRADBHOY,
14 teams
Play each other twice in first round of fixtures = 26 games
Split top 6 + bottom 8 and play each other twice again = 10 games for top 6 and 14 games for bottom 8.
Assuming Celtic + Sevco both make top 6 – we will play each other 4 times and a total of 36 games rather than the current 38.
TIM MALONE WILL TELL on 11TH JUNE 2020 5:27 PM
NEWRADBHOY,
14 teams
Play each other twice in first round of fixtures = 26 games
Split top 6 + bottom 8 and play each other twice again = 10 games for top 6 and 14 games for bottom 8.
Assuming Celtic + Sevco both make top 6 – we will play each other 4 times and a total of 36 games rather than the current 38.
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So the downside is that we lose 2 games.
The upside is, we will play the exact same fixture as thems. If there was no pandemic and we managed to get to the split with the same top 6 in place the fixtures would have been a joke.
Sevco would have played the rest of the top six twice at home and once away. Celtic the opposite.
In the end, it wouldn’t have mattered. But they had the easier run of fixtures.
CELTIC1MEMBER1VOTE on 9TH JUNE 2020 4:26 PM
Celtic PLC current ownership model is Morally and Financially Unfair and Unjust.
Here are the reasons why :
Celtic currently have approx. 50,000 Season Ticket Holders and 30,000 small Shareholders.
There will be some supporters who are both, so I’m estimating 15,000 (50%) of small Shareholders will also be Season Ticket Holders.
The combined amount of income this group of Supporters and small Shareholders have given to the club since the formation of the PLC is in excess of £750 million.
It is probably a fair estimate that the amount of £750 million or more, will equate to approx. 50% of the total income of the PLC over the years.
For the amount of £750 million given to the Club, the Season Ticket Holders and Small Shareholder are actually the Moral and Financial owners of the Club.
But for the £750 million given to the Club, this only gives Supporters a voting share of about 10%.
However worse still is that under the PLC ownership model, Season Ticket Holders don’t even have a Vote. This in my opinion is totally Immoral.
Again to highlight how Immoral our Ownership model is, take the example of venture capitalists LIndsell Train, who have over the years purchased approx. 20% of Ownership of Celtic for approx. £20 million.
So Celtic Supporters put £750 million into our Club, and own approx. 10% voting share of our Club.
Yet, LIndsell Train put nothing into our Club, but have bought approx. £20 million of shares and own approx. 20% voting share of our Club.
Now of course my figures are best estimates, but hopefully they will explain in principle how the current PLC ownership and funding model, is grossly unfair, undemocratic and frankly is need of complete change.
Imagine a different ownership model.
Imagine a Membership Ownership Model where all Supporters owned the club together.
Imagine all existing Shareholders large and small gifted there shareholding to the Club for free.
The Shareholding value of Celtic is approx. £100 million, but remember Supporters have put in £750 million.
I could write a book on the Benefits of a truly World Class Membership Ownership Celtic Football Club, where we don’t take shite from anyone and we Rock football from its foundations up.
We could have one of the best Football Clubs in the world, run by truly incredibly talented and world class Celtic members to make this happen.
Where as currently the PLC just continue to treat Celtic Supporters as 2nd class Customers.
As I said earlier Celtic Season Ticket Holders and Small Share holders are really the Moral and Financial owners of the Club, based on the Physical and Financial Support given to the Club over the years.
Fergus had a vision of Celtic Supporters owning the Club.
Morally and Financially we already do, but legally we don’t.
Will the PLC change to a Celtic Membership Owned Football Club.
The current Covid situation just highlights how important Celtic Supporters are to the Club and to the PLC.
Change will only evolve, if enough Celtic Supporters want change.
This isn’t about denying Celtic Season Ticket money for next season, as the current PLC ownership model dictates that Supporters if they can afford to pay, will have to continue to fund and safeguard the Club next season, not only to survive but to prosper and win 10 IN A ROW.
However, hopefully after this coming season, the PLC will listen and recognise that change is needed, and that change can evolve in a good way, and in a way that safeguards the future of Celtic Football Club, for future generations for years to come.
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Just caught up with this and funnily enough I’ve been working on a path towards proper supporter representation involving a Membership Scheme that I hope will be published in next day or two.
I think that the move will gather pace later this year as Res12 and what it tells us becomes transparent to all.
I just hope enough supporters care enough to say “enough being misled by the nose”
BRILLIANT PICTURE, WELL DONE ST ANTS,
and look at mr mcgrory’s tie
St.Anthony
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Pic before bed: Gentleman James McGrory, in his later years, with the boots in which he scored 8 goals in Celtic’s 9-0 win over Dunfermline in 1928. What a player he must have been in his day. Many regard him as the greatest Celtic player of all time and not without good cause.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaLgrB-XQAARwml?format=jpg&name=small
Thanks for all your replies.
Right off to work.
Night shift for me.
Stay Safe
HH
Tory cow.
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@madeye611
This video has been widely viewed in Scotland for some time, it’s now getting more exposure. This bunch of sneering privileged English incompetents needs to be exposed at every opportunity.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1270607512253890560
I support the Celtic supporters who recognise our precarious situation and want to help our club.
HH.
Good evening CQN from a balmy Garngad 😂
Fess 19- I text Big Jimmy yesterday and he has not been feeling very well lately and is worried in awe he needs to go back into hospital.
HH
D. :)
Can you add your signature? ✍️
http://chng.it/ntg4HY8m
Definitely a statue to come down
Bada
Signed Mhate.
In awe means incase or that he might have to go into hospital.
HH
D. :)
!!BADA BING!! on 11TH JUNE 2020 7:35 PM
Can you add your signature? ✍️
http://chng.it/ntg4HY8m
Definitely a statue to come down
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the comments are quite funny, and not very pc.
so bring him down for being a slave owner, all his other genocidal kill the indiginous catholic populations was alright then.
Bada Bing,
I have experienced discrimination since the day I was born. I was born a catholic in the West of Scotland. Everything I have in my body is against the orange order.
I cannot support your request for this statue to come down.
Where does it end. La Pasionaria, An Gotta Mor, Nelson Mandela.
Because that is where this will end.
HH.
Bada – signed
D. :)
It ends when all of those racist statues are away.
Don’t think an Gorta Mor is racist.😯
D. :)
David 66,
If it offends people it will topple. That is the reality.
GREENPINATA
I’m right behind your idea of demolishing Bute House as it was bought with the fruits of slavery.
Nicola could move back home to her parents house and carry on the struggle for independence from there.
I’m sure you will agree.
Here we go, Adidas Thursday…
https://www.footyheadlines.com/2020/06/celtic-20-21-home-kit.html
So budge failed to get league reconstruction and now it seems 14-10-10-10 is on the table 🤔
sponsored by the pope.
statue has him in roman emporer style ,
one inscription is in latin.
something doesnt fit the proddy narrative.
https://s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/lostglasgow-gb/images/1809-large.jpg
Greenpinta- watching elsewhere, I can understand the point of view ,in certain cases,that a plaque with information regarding the person is now attached. I think everyone is having a history lesson just now, I didn’t know about the streets in Glasgow for example. HH
Gene- on or off mate?
Ring out the old, and ring in the new (Glasgow Cross, Hogmanay, 1920 (Daily Record))
Hogmanay is always a time for looking back, as well as for looking forward – so let’s spin back 99 years.
It’s the final night of 1920, and, as was tradition in Glasgow, crowds had gathered around the old Tolbooth at Glasgow Cross to hear its carillon of bells welcome in the New Year.
This picture, taken just beside the old Glasgow Cross railway station, shows folk of all ages out first footing. There’s men in bunnets, a woman wrapped in a shawl, weans out in their shirtsleeves, two big polis keeping an eye on the shenanigans. I love the big spinning wheel hanging above John Smith’s wool shop (just above the horse’s tail).
The man on the cuddy – the city’s oldest equestrian statue – is King William III, dressed up as a Roman general. Perhaps he was off to a toga party!
The lead statue was presented to the city in 1735 by James Macrae (1677-1744) of Orangefield in Ayrshire. Macrae made his fortune as the Governor of the Presidency of Madras before returning to Scotland. The tail of the statue was attached by a ball and socket joint and would move in the wind.
As Glasgow boomed, the statue, which originally stood outside the old Tontine Hotel, became an obstruction to traffic. In 1897 it was moved a short distance to stand (on a new pedestal) in front of the traffic island at the new Glasgow Cross railway station. It was taken down again in 1923 and put in storage. Three years later it was moved to Cathedral Square, where it remains to this day.
Bada Bing,
I think a plaque attached is the ideal solution
ITSCALLEDTHEMALVINAS.
Is Nicola not married ? Second home in Portugal maybe, but don’t really see her moving back to her parents home.
Are you trying to tell us something? I 😁
Greenpinata – have to agree to disagree.
D. :)