SPFL chief executive, Neil Doncaster, is clear on the subject of offensive singing at football games: “It remains the SPFL’s position that if it can be established that clubs have done everything required in overall management of the event pre-match, during the game and post-match then they have no case to answer”.
This may be the case, but if clubs fail to communicate appropriate instructions to fans after one transgression, which is quickly followed by a second transgression, Doncaster’s defence is moot. The club has failed to do “everything required” pre-match and post-match, and is guilty under the rules, if applied.
Doncaster has employed a rhetorical technique. When faced with a difficult scenario, make a statement which is in itself true, but the parameters of which do not match the scenario.
The chief executive of the Scottish Professional Football League’s comments this morning appear like an attempt to protect a member club from the League’s own rules. He is paid to ensure rules are applied, not negated.
It is no business of his to defer responsibility to the police, or the Justice Ministry, which concocted this inept Offensive Behaviour Act in order to “equalise” criminality, where it didn’t exist, but will not lift a finger on this issue.
What do you know about Andy McAtee? He signed for Celtic from Mossend Hibs in 1910 and left in 1924, having played 438 games on the right wing, scoring 75 goals. He won six league titles and four Scottish Cups and was one of the earliest Celtic heroes. During the Great War he fought in the Alps, and in Haig’s bloody field in the Somme.
When he, and other members of our first genuinely great team, retired, Celtic found it impossible to replace them. We didn’t win another six titles until Inter manager, Helenio Herrera, watched our title win in May 1967.
The Celtic Graves Society mark his final resting place at Kilsyth Cemetery (G5 0TA) at 12:00 on Saturday 28 February. After a graveside blessing, there will be a Q&A with Jim Craig, Tom Boyd and Pat McCluskey, at The Curling Stone pub, High Craigends, Kilsyth. If you can make it along and support the great work of the Society, get there.
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Ah well
Late in from work
Missed start of Barca game …going to go for Suarez first goal….Barca win ..
So Doncaster had gone maverick….? I would be happier, a lot happier, if Celtic would distance themselves from Doncaster’s comments. After all, he’s employed by the clubs, and I suspect that they were aware of and content with the line Doncaster is taking.If not, Celtic will presumably issue a statement explaining that Doncaster’s interpretation of the rules is unacceptable.
How dare the rockabilly refugee and angry-lesbian impersonator (K.D Lang anyone?) dare criticize the Klan for celebrating their Kulchur.
Sigh of relief and lip service from doncaster. Sweep-sweeping it under the mountainous rug at Sweet FA HQ.
And gnash! The vampire scores for Barca as I write.
Tyldesley saying just before goal that City were doing well and Barca weren’t dominating possession like they normally do. Stat then comes up 65%-35% Barca
PFAyr
West of Scotland streets are subjected to the very same songs every weekend from spring to autumn, fae the baunds and their knuckle dragging followers.
Elidor
We’re still waiting on a statement from the clubs distancing themselves from Doncaster’s statement re Sevco bring the same club
He clearly speaks for the member clubs with their consent …otherwise they’d sack him
Fiver on Suarez for 2 at 9s. C’mon Louis- chew ’em up.
DD
Quite but they’re not masquerading as an association football team
Gary67
Lucky rebound
250K a week is a substantian sum to pay a player to chase his own tail and ball-watch while Barca play football…
Don’t hold your breath waiting for Gordon Brown calling out the racists. I remember him talking about us protecting our establishments in Scotland. You know which establishments that son of the manse meant.
Caught live on TV across the UK Sevco supporters belt out racist songs at the very same time prime time news carries a story of a group of racist football fans abusing a man at a subway. Note the complete absence of reporting in the SMSM, the lack of political or police comment and the excuses made by the sports governing body. Sevco supporters currently have free rein to chant what they want. There is no appetite to call them out for it. Is that because of institutional sectarianism? Is it because of fears of civil disturbance? Is it financial? Whichever it is, it clearly tells you your place in this country if aren’t a WASP.
Only the 50 or 60 uninterrupted passes in that spell from Barca.
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As someone that has Stood in De Kuipp Stadd and heard Hissing for nearly a Full Half..
Re; Chants at Football..
DUTCH ANTI-SEMITISM ON THE SOCCER PITCH…….
Posted on 15/03/2012 by KGS
Anti-Semitic remarks hurled at non-Jews, are still anti-Semitic remarks hurled, on or off the playing pitch. Dr.Manfred Gerstenfeld reports on anti-Semitic behaviour in Dutch football that the Tundra Tabloids reported on last Sept.
Earlier this month, anti-Semitic slogans were the subject of a court case brought by BAN, an organization fighting anti-Semitism, against ADO.(Den Hagg) In March, this top league club from The Hague won a game against Ajax from Amsterdam. During the match ADO supporters frequently chanted “Hamas, Hamas, Jews to the Gas” and “Horrible Cancer Jews.” At a party after ADO’s victory, fans and two players sang in the presence of the trainer, “We are going to chase Jews.”[2] The judge decided that the ADO management would be held responsible to prevent repetition of similar outbursts at future games and if it could not, the management should stop the match.[3]
BAN’s lawyer observed that the two parties agree that chants such as
“horrible cancer Jews” and “Hamas, Hamas, Jews to the gas” are not permitted.
He added that a witness had declared that also other antisemitic
chants were sung during the entire game.2 They were aimed at fanatic Ajax
fans who call themselves “The Jews.”
In his decision, the judge wrote that the chants sung during the game
are considered antisemitic, hurtful, and thus inadmissible. The judge added
that he did not believe the claim by ADO management that they had not
heard the songs, as there were 150 special guards in the stadium who were
in contact with a “command room.” The judge decided that if during a
future home game there were antisemitic chants in which the word “Jews”
was mentioned, ADO’s management would have to take measures to end
these chants and prevent new ones from being sung. If necessary, this
would include stopping the game
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Full Article..http://tundratabloids.com/2012/03/dutch-anti-semitism-on-the-soccer-pitch.html
PJBhoynyc-looks the business mate,ta HH
Duncaster may as well have said
” they are the people they sing what they want”
Sandman
20:06 on
24 February, 2015
Fiver on Suarez for 2 at 9s. C’mon Louis- chew ‘em up.
should be collecting mate,Messi looks back to his best so far
DD
Cheers mate, it was all a bit draining but delighted with the outcome
pfayr supports weeoscar
20:02 on 24 February, 2015
Ah well
Late in from work
Missed start of Barca game …going to go for Suarez first goal….Barca win ..
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Oh dear hopefully that won’t carry on till Thursday
Ayrshire is Green and White
PFAyr
True. They are far more sinister though, and socially accepted.
The same way that the sevco songbook is socially accepted in Scotland.
We are weirdos for thinking otherwise. Dontcha know! :)
gene
Aye. We only encourage it. ‘Let The Peeple Sing’. :-)
HH
SJ
Sandman
Your the man
Sandmaaaaaaaannnnnn
City in tatters
2-0 Suarez after brilliant play from the Magician in the build-up.
Louis the Vamp strikes again. Ker-ching!
Wish I’d backed the hat-trick…
Sandman
Bingo …in 30 mins ..they should increase your odds :-))
Nice on
Zabaleta done up by Messi
Game over
Sandman
Magic! Fold yer dough! :)
Brilliant play from Barca! 2-0 Suarez.
Sandman – congratulations!!
Any chance of giving me 6 numbers between 1 and 49?
HH
Mick TT
Late tonight to “ensure ” an early finish on Thursday :-))
I’m no hater of the EPl but there’s something particularly amusing and satisfying about watching an over-hyped, over-financed, over-rated English giant of a club get royally pumped, played off the park and out the competition.
Dortmund equalise.
Pelligrini will be replaced by Simeoni in the summer
Wonder what Steve McManaman thinks of the best team from theee best league in the world bar none getting royally pumped at home??
Delaneys Dunky
20:17 on 24 February, 2015
Sandman
Magic! Fold yer dough! :)
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Lol, on a roll – 50 onto big Virgil scoring in the San Siro…
My friends in Celtic,
Some very poingnant posts today, especially the posts affiliated with ChippyBhoy’s initial post @ 13.02 hrs.
While I am full of admiration for the fact that a young 15 year old girl was prepared to act in deed what many of us only profess in print; I can never understand how certain people in the legal profession can sleep at night.
HH.
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Man City should Really be Beating teams like Barcelona: Some Scouse Twat..
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Absolutely no offence to anyone on here.