I was concerned about a trip to Estonia after hearing Hearts struggle in their home leg against Estonian opponents last week, so news that Gibraltar’s Lincoln Red Imps beat Flora Tallinn was welcome, although the concern was tempered as news arrived that Hearts were three goals up in the away leg.
The lesson here is that in July, one more week’s training has a huge impact on performance.
Brendan Rodgers will be happy with how training has progressed thus far, but it’s only when players put multiple 90 minutes under their belts that they are ready for competitive action. There’s not necessarily a great deal of work to do to overcome Red Imps (no offence intended), but qualifiers come thick and fast thereafter. Despite beating Slovenian champions Olimpija Ljubljana yesterday, I expect Celtic will be more motivated for Saturday’s game against Maribor.
It gets serious from now onwards.
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TOMTHELEEDSTIM
wher you been .how is bhoy doing at uni ?
As it stands, whilst not denigrating the efforts of those involved, the only tangible outcome appears to be that when the Ibrox club qualifies for European competition, they will be allocated a co-efficent proper to a club new to Europe.
Will this be the case – will it not be given the country’s co-efficent?
What is the next step – what is the aim?
Auldheid,
Do you see any significance in the appointment of Mrs.Budge to the SPFL Board and the hasty retreat from the ballot of the Sevco Robertson, who publicly canvassed for a position, as befitting an officer of his club?
MATS NILLOC
downer downer.why don’t you meet OUR TONY for a pint. lots in common.he will probably be on suspension bridge in glasgow hoping for some support.
Also just to say,I can remember way back Canamalar asking and getting feedback from the blog about an idea he had in constructing a question which turned into resolution 12.
That Bhoy should be proud today regardless of the incalculable help he received from some Larsson like legends.
Auldheid…
The resolutioners have put the information on the desk of UEFA to question the irregularities with the SPFL.
They made a statement and should /could follow it up.
We all know the huns have their own man in there, that is my bone of contention.
Do thems still have that pull?
tomtheleedstim on 8th July 2016 8:51 pm
I think the whole process could have and should have been better managed from the outset with a clear objective in view.
All the work done until now might just prepare the way for that to happen.
Having cleared away the idea Res12 was an attempt by Celtic and their supporters to have RFC or TRFC sanctioned, something the media and SFA would have been happy about, perhaps focus will now turn on the SFA, not just any failings in 2011 but their responses to Celtic and us since.
Fingers crossed.
AULDHEID on 8TH JULY 2016 8:46 PM
I posted four questions earlier, not sure if you saw my post, don’t think you did as you have answered other Posts put up later than mine?
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
thomthethim for Oscar OK on 8th July 2016 8:58 pm
Auldheid,
Do you see any significance in the appointment of Mrs.Budge to the SPFL Board and the hasty retreat from the ballot of the Sevco Robertson, who publicly canvassed for a position, as befitting an officer of his club?
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Definitely and if you have not read James Forrest blog yesterday he nails it.
GG on 8th July 2016 8:31 pm
Excellent but only half as excellent as the effort by the R12 guys.
Just in from a meal with the family so just catching up. Any reaction from “other places”?
Wife is watching the last resident of Midsommer being murdered.
Andy is in the final to whip MiT’s boy.
I am finding a state of chill listening to a 45rpm recording by the pure voice of Rita Coolidge. Gordon Lightfoot lined up next to pacify MiT.
Can’t beat vinyl.
Before you deny my pleasure, I had 139 emails by 14.36 today. I deserve to chill.
UEFA, probably coached by SFA state that no need to be involved as ‘ new “club” ‘ were starting in tier four and would not be involved in European tournaments for at least four years. Bullshit. Winners of Scottish cup go in to Europa league.
Lennybhoy on 8th July 2016 9:01 pm
Sorry . I was going through earliest but got diverted to most recent. I’ll head back now.
LENNYBHOY on 8TH JULY 2016 7:37 PM
AULDHEID on 8TH JULY 2016 7:20 PM
Thank you and the other Requisitioners for your efforts thus far. We all knew that the they were not granted a licence for 2012/2013; this I get because they were put into administration on on 14th February 2012 and the newco started in the Division Three. I have four questions:
Do you expect CFC to make a statement and if so when?
Do you expect CFC to take up the mantle now and if so when?
In your Heart do you anticipate the SFA to concede they are a new club/company?
When will the UEFA Letter be given to the London based Newspaper and what do you think will be achieved, perhaps that the MSM/SMSM to come on board?
In my opinion you are two thirds of the way there, you will have totally reached your objective when CFC and the SFA recognise them as a new club/company.
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
Lots of positivity tonight, I for one do not want to rain on anyone’s parade.
If anyone thinks that the Next Sevco strip and the current one will not have five stars on it, they are mistaken. If anyone thinks their quest for number 55 will be halted, forget that also.
Not one single person of note will take them on.
By saying this I do not want to disparage the the sterling work done in highlighting to the world ,that little cesspit we exist in for the purposes of football.
There is only one light powerful enough that could illuminate the dark forces at work to preserve the WATP mentality.
The force of liight and truth is within us, within our club. I do not understand how Celtic Football Club cannot see how powerful,they are at the moment. We are Giants in a Pygmy land.
If we can somehow qualify for the CL,our position is further enhanced. The SFA need to be seen as players in the game, without Celtic they are feck all!
I never want to see us as bigger than we are or to be seen as having the ” wha’s like us” mentality of the Orc. However, now is the time to show the SFA who brings more prestige to Scottish football: Celtic FC or a bunch of florid faced, jumped up middle managers with ill fitting Blazers.
AULDHEID on 8TH JULY 2016 9:04 PM
No worries, think you may have answered a couple.
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
Auldheid. Thanks for the reply. Fingers crossed indeed. Many thanks again for your efforts.
Favourite Uncle. He’s doing grand thanks. Currently in Chengdu, China where I understand he is experiencing the delights of chronic food poisoning.
Been out and just catching up. Thanks to Winning Captains and Auldheid for the update and answers. Thanks also to James Forrest for his analysis of the responses from UEFA.
Clearly SFA failed in its duty of care to member clubs by lack of due diligence in accepting the dead club’s assurance by a laissez faire attitude to supervision and is clearly unfit for purpose.
Heartiest congratulations to the Resolutioners and Winning Captains for their unstinting efforts to ascertain the truth and for their perseverance whilst others sought to thwart or undermine their efforts.
Hopefully whatever remains to be done to clarify remaining issues and a just resolution will soon be achieved. Hail, Hail
Well done the Res-ers.
And good luck with the remainder.
One concern I have regarding the “new club” fact. The co-efficient many not provide further conclusive proof (as if it’s needed). If 5 years elapse between when the old club last gain co-ef points and the new club qualify for Europe, would this not result in the co-efficient starting from scratch regardless of whether it is a new club or old club?. As points are wiped after 5 years.
ron67 on 8th July 2016 6:57 pm
it is suggested that UEFA has effectively stated that Sevco is a “new club/company”. That is all well and good, but unless the correspondence is published it will quickly be dismissed .
***Nothing changes if this is not endorsed by the powers at be.
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Under SFA Articles UEFA are the powers that be. The letter exists. The SFA got a copy from UEFA.
It will not be made public by us until after we respond to it, after all its OUR letter, you guys paid for it.
Heaven forbid the SFA should have leaked parts of it that suited them. Not cricket old chap.
Well done to all involved in resolution 12
Would a court case from an oldco creditor raising a claim against newco for them to clear the debt since they claim to be the same bring this to a head?
Also heard Barton knocked back 70 grand a week from Burnley and the ex Liverpool guy is on 19 or 20 k a week. If this is even close to truth, it is hardly surprising that saggy, warbs and tav are all proving hard to pin down.
JMCCORMICK on 8TH JULY 2016 9:05 PM
You are so right. Regan and Doncaster will not be packing their bags.
A small but not insignificant victory has been won. However, the war still rages.
We need reinforcements in the shape of Celtic FC big guns to blast these scoundrels out of town.
Sorry, should have been waggy.
Sometimes predictive text can improve upon the intended meaning.
I am Not Lurking Anymore on 8th July 2016 7:01 pm
I thought res 12 was about SFA governance not whether they’re a new club something we already know
I take it no action will be taken against the SFA for granting a licence to deidco
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Indeed it is and if you read the update you will see that said. As regards SFA, good governance goes way beyond 2011.
J McCormack.
They have 5 self awarded red stars.
We have 1 UEFA awarded Gold star.
Says it all.
Darryl
Sleep tight tonight.
I’m in Spain – 31c
Ah bet its warmer in your bed !.
ODWC
Mats,
As far as I remember Sevco were given Scotlands co-efficient by UEFA…..categorically stating they were a new club under their rules…..but Res 12 is all about the SFA endorsement that led to thems gaining a euro license whilst they had overdue tax liabilities…..no?
FTSFA
H.H.
Auldheid ….. Surely it follows that, if they are a new club, their history is also new (4 years of history only) …..this aspect is not rocket science ….. so, who physically makes these record changes ? UEFA OR SFA … ?
I would imagine that now the governing body of European football , have confirmed Sevco as a new club , the SFA will need to comply with that ruling , if not it surely should further highlight , their collusion in the scandal which is Scottish football . All we need to know Is WHAT ARE THEY TO BE CALLED .
Thanks to Auldheid and the bhoys we are indebted
Big THANKS to all of the wonderful members of the celtic family and those of other clubs who helped support the gentlemen of the resolution.
SFA…Get them in the dock
Accountability and accounting on a world scale is dirty defecated.
Anyone who tries for the greater good to expose and clean up these pariah deserve our
Love
Auldheid I too wondered where our club statement was and why they are not forthcoming, but understand now we need to play this out further. Will smsm pick up a thread?
I doubt it, do I care?
These are people/entity’s I see as complicit in the myth/ LIE.
What will Mr Lawell’s position be if it comes to question on his tenure on the SFA board.
Lotsmorequestionscsc
Mats,
It is a lie that can be used to help crack open the SFA duplicitousness/duplicitiusmess ;-))
FTSFA
H.H.
Jimtim
The Newhuns
Spfl =SFA…
BTW… Watched the good old days for old times sake plus my dad would quiz me about the acts :)
I didn’t realise Laurie from Dennistoun was the compere.
I bow to no-one in my admiration and appreciation of the Res. 12 boys and all who have supported the venture.
It is a great result that you have got as far as you have done. So please do not feel that I am criticising you guys in what I say next.
What have we changed?
We appear to have got a side of the mouth admission from UEFA to the effect that they stopped pursuing the issue because they saw them as a new club/company.
Although we have interpreted that ambiguous conflation to our advantage, the guys on the other side, aided and abetted by Level 5 will be saying the same. They will say that, of course the old company died but UEFA has made no clear pronunciation on the club. By clear I mean a simple declarative sentence that these are two different clubs- no conflations- no confusion and no ambiguity or wriggle room.
There have been 3 hours that have passed since CQN gave its version of what is contained in the correspondence and not one newspaper outlet has picked up and commented on it. If they felt there previous advertised lies were about to be undercut from official sources they would be busy moving their position so that they would be able to tell you within a week that they always knew there was something dodgy going on and UEFA have just agreed with us. That is how the newspaper/propaganda business works. Yet, on this occasion, they seem comfortable in ignoring the white noise from the bampots out there.
So, before we declare ourselves the winners let us admit the boundaries of what we have won and admit what we have yet to achieve.
We have a seeming admission- no more- from a largely uninterested and unenthusiastic source at Uefa- which tells us- we at Uefa do not need to do anything because it is a different entity.
Even on friendly sites- well as friendly as you can get in the bitchy world of Celtic Cyberspace- today’s announcement has been treated as a bit of a damp squib. An unfair perception definitely but a telling one because, if our friends are underwhelmed then our enemies in this discourse will feel little need to respond or give this any space in their world view at all.
Now, I know the guys involved are all too wise, too persistent and too resourceful to see today as any kind of end point. These great guys have given us encouraging news today but it is not yet the death blow to the Continuity Myth.
Celtic fans are claiming that it just confirms what we already know i.e. that they died. But we do not “know” this at all: at present we merely believe it and have no official confirmation of our belief in any official record book. In fact, we are dismissed yet as minority cranks.
It will not be real, factual or known (by anyone) until it is a widely accepted and officially legitimised and recorded fact. We have still to reach that blessed state.
So well done all you guys. May this interim result give you the confidence and courage to go on further to achieve the end.
There might even be a personalised number plate waiting for you
OK12 RES
Y12 RES
Firstly, well done to Canamalar, Morrisseythe23rd, Auldheid and BRT&H as well as Winning Captains and paul67.
The truth is now out there……….The SFA are not fit for purpose.
Quadrofenians ~ FTSFA ***** Warning does contain swearie words *****
https://youtu.be/aeIVXJ5HCL0
Secondly, the truth is out there again with the confirmation of Sevco being a Newco.
Quadrofenians again ~ Let’s all laugh at the Newco
https://youtu.be/PyRo3-Q3l_0
Thank you all again for all your efforts.
HH
When I read Mats I read his words as if said by snivelling Keevins.
It makes me happy ..
I know I’m easily pleased it it lets me read his posts.
I know I’m father Jack but it’s all fun
I am a bit slow on the uptake here, but if you think that the sfa have only just been informed by uefa that the huns are a new club, you really should get out a bit more.
They have been a new club since the old one died, it’s not rocket science, the old club died and in the process of being liquidated, this is a fact.
The sfa, the smsm, the huns will all still treat the bastard incarnation as rangers, everyone will call them rangers, they will be rangers for all intents and purposes.
It’s all about the money, hence the lies and things like the five way agreement.
Hrvatski Jim
How are you, my friend?
You seem quite confident about Mr. Murray. The bookies seem to agree with you (I saw MR at +350), but I have said since the start of the year that MR is the most improved player on tour this year, and he would win Wimbledon this year. I still think so (even if I was spectacularly wrong about the AM match today).
SFTB…….yep…..white noise ;-))
FTSFA
H.H.