They call it Helicopter Money. Income that just lands in your lap without you having to do any work for it. It brings a special kind of joy. The millions Celtic will earn as a result of a sell-on clause from Virgil van Dijk’s £75m sale to Liverpool is a classic of the genre.
Right off, let’s acknowledge a few facts. Virgil’s £2.6m capture from Groningen was a brilliant piece of business by the club. Many are due credit for this, including Neil Lennon and Peter Lawwell, but the occasionally-maligned John Park, in particular, deserves applause.
Park lost his Midas touch after the January 2012 capture of Mikael Lustig, but that had as much to do with the change in comparative finances between Celtic and the bottom of the English Premier League, than any degradation of our former chief scout’s ability.
Virgil had played only 62 games in senior football when he signed for Celtic. We got him because we moved, showing incredible agility, before anyone else had the opportunity to act. We will not be able to exactly recreate the Virgil business – others see where and how exceptional value has been earned and copy, but this has always been the case.
What we can say for sure is that few clubs anywhere in the world have the success rate of Celtic at finding under-priced footballers and transforming them into Champions League players who are sold at multiples of five or ten times value.
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Nally 81
Fake news…..
Dear God…what a bizzare claim
TooridiculousforwordsCSC
Evening All,
I saw a post by James Forrest earlier today saying that this will be a busy and exciting window with maybe six signings.
Interesting, thinks I. Maybe we will see a step up in quality?
Then I got into a wee text chat with Cowiebhoy and we quickly came up with the following:
Jack Hendry (Defender)
Michael Worm (Goalkeeper)
Steven Caulker (Centre Half)
Charlie Moussonda (Winger)
Marvin Compper (Defender)
And then there was one!
Now, I am always delighted to see new players, and of those mentioned above Compper and Caulker could be good old heads, and Charlie could be a great acquisition if only on loan.
Jack Hendry might be good as a long term bet and Michael Worm hasn’t played very much football, isn’t the tallest and sure as hell isn’t a shot stopper in the mould of Craig Gordon.
We don’t need more players, what we should be doing is achieving a step up in class of player throughout the squad. Does the above list achieve that?
Hmmm
Our Midfield is still Brown plus three, though Olivier is really coming on strong, and I would really like to see a quality introduction or two in that area. Players who can dictate, protect centre backs and create for the forwards.
I don’t want much, honest, and in Brendan we trust!
And thankyou to everyone who is taking part in CRC and Jobo’s latest Goals Galore competition to support my Mary’s Meals appeal.
Helping to feed 805 kids is a real revolution in Liberia.
When I started out trying to support the school there were 265 kids at the school. Now, as a result of providing one square meal of porridge a day, 805 kids go to the school.
It is a huge upturn in the roll call, and in time it will create a mini revolution in the area.
The kids will learm, be fed, get stronger, fewer will die of malnutrition, and in time they will have a better chance of securing a job or going to college or gaining a skill which leads to greater wealth, less hunger, a better society and a revitalised community where things are very much better.
I know it is only a daft competition, but entering really will make a difference and provide a bit of fun along the way.
Thanks to CRC and Jobo for all their help.
HH
BRTH
Gooooood Evening CQN
Firstly, very very well done Celtic on the success with Virgil Van Dijk, as well as Victor Wanyama, Fraser Forster and Cha du Wei & probably a Moussa Dembele in not too distant future
But Paul 67, one of the worlds best ????
Take a look at the list Clogher Celt put up, then tell me again we have one of world footballs best records – wow, we signed some list of players in those day, instead of quality , with occasional success – I blame John Park for that
Amido Balde, 1 of the worst players I’ve seen in a Celtic jersey – not even sure he should be classed as a football player, woeful ( remember he scored a couple of cracking goals mind you :-)))
A change of strategy will hopefully bring improved performance in area of signings
Here’s a reminder
Transfers – Players In
Transfers | Transfers Out | A-Z of Players | First Team Squad
Brendan Rodgers (May 2016 – present)
33 Marvin Compper, £1m from Red Bull Leipzig, Dec 2018 [BBC]
22 Odsonne Edouard, (loan) from Paris Saint-Germain, Aug 2017 [BBC]
07 Patrick Roberts, (loan) from Manchester City, Aug 2017 [BBC]
21 Olivier Ntcham, £4.5m from Manchester City, Jul 2017 [BBC]
26 Kundai Benyu, undisclosed from Ipswich Town, Jun 2017 [BBC]
15 Jonny Hayes, £1.3m plus Ryan Christie (loan) from Aberdeen, Jun 2017 [BBC]
88 Kouassi Eboue, £2.8m from FC Krasnodar, Jan 2017 [BBC]
12 Cristian Gamboa, £1m from West Bromwich Albion, Aug 2016 [BBC]
24 Dorus de Vries, undisclosed from Nottingham Forest, Aug 2016 [BBC]
11 Scott Sinclair, £3.5m from Aston Villa, Aug 2016 [BBC]
02 Kolo Toure, free from Liverpool, Jul 2016 [BBC]
10 Moussa Dembele, £500,000 from Fulham, Jun 2016 [BBC]
Ronny Deila (Jun 2014 – May 2016)
35 Kristoffer Ajer, undisclosed from IK Start, Feb 2016 [BBC]
13 Colin Kazim-Richards, free from Feyenoord, Feb 2016 [BBC]
27 Patrick Roberts, (loan) from Manchester City, Jan 2016 [BBC]
28 Erik Sviatchenko, £1.5m from Midtjylland, Jan 2016 [BBC]
24 Carlton Cole, unattached, Oct 2015 [BBC]
05 Jozo Simunovic, £3m from Dinamo Zagreb, Aug 2015 [BBC]
17 Ryan Christie, £500,000 from Inverness Caledonian Thistle, Aug 2015 [BBC]
02 Tyler Blackett, (loan) from Manchester United, Aug 2015 [BBC]
19 Scott Allan, £275,000 plus Liam Henderson(loan) from Hibernian, Aug 2015 [BBC]
07 Nadir Ciftci, £1.5m from Dundee United, Jul 2015 [BBC]
26 Logan Bailly, £250,000 from OH Leuven, Jul 2015 [BBC]
22 Saidy Janko, undisclosed from Manchester United, Jul 2015 [BBC]
20 Dedryck Boyata, £1.5m from Manchester City, Jun 2015 [BBC]
29 Michael Duffy, undisclosed from Derry City, Feb 2015 [BBC]
14 Stuart Armstrong, £1.75m from Dundee United, Feb 2015 [BBC]
16 Gary Mackay-Steven, £250,000 from Dundee United, Feb 2015 [BBC]
09 John Guidetti, (loan) from Manchester City, Sep 2014 [BBC]
12 Stefan Scepovic, £2.3m from Sporting Gijon, Sep 2014 [BBC]
32 Mubarak Wakaso, (loan) from Rubin Kazan, Aug 2014 [BBC]
22 Jason Denayer, (loan) from Manchester City, Aug 2014 [BBC]
27 Aleksander Tonev, (loan) from Aston Villa, Aug 2014 [BBC]
16 Jo Inge Berget, (loan) from Cardiff City, Jul 2014 [BBC]
26 Craig Gordon, free, Jul 2014 [BBC]
Neil Lennon (June 2010 – May 2014)
28 Leigh Griffiths, £1m from Wolverhampton Wanderers, Jan 2014 [BBC]
25 Stefan Johansen, £2m from Stromsgodset, Jan 2014 [BBC]
19 Holmbert Fridjonsson, £100,000 from Fram Reykjavik, Jan 2014 [BBC]
20 Teemu Pukki, £3m from Schalke, Aug 2013 [BBC]
06 Nir Biton, £700,000 from FC Ashdod, Aug 2013 [BBC]
11 Derk Boerrigter, £3m from Ajax, Jul 2013 [BBC]
22 Steven Mouyokolo, free from Wolverhampton Wanderers, Jul 2013 [BBC]
05 Virgil van Dijk, £2.6m from FC Groningen, Jun 2013 [BBC]
17 Amido Balde, £1.5m from Vitoria Guimaraes, Jun 2013 [BBC]
26 Viktor Noring, (loan) from Trelleborgs FF, Jan 2013 [STV]
05 Rami Gershon, (loan) from Standard Liege, Jan 2013 [BBC]
18 Tom Rogic, £400,000 from Central Coast Mariners, Jan 2013[BBC]
11 Lassad Nouioui, free from Deportivo La Coruna, Sep 2012 [BBC]
26 Lubos Kamenar, (loan) from Nantes, Aug 2012 [BBC]
04 Efe Ambrose,£1.5m from Ashdod, Aug 2012 [BBC]
07 Nicolas ‘Miku’ Fedor, (loan) from Getafe, Aug 2012 [BBC]
01 Fraser Forster,£2m from Newcastle United, Aug 2012 [BBC]
17 Pawel Brozek, (loan) from Trabzonspor, Jan 2012 [BBC]
40 Rabiu Ibrahim, free from PSV Eindhoven, Jan 2012[BBC]
23 Mikael Lustig, free from Rosenborg, Jan 2012 [BBC]
39 Andre Blackman, free from AFC Wimbledon, Nov 2011 [BBC]
04 Badar El Kaddouri, (loan) from Dynamo Kiev, Aug 2011 [BBC]
14 Mohamed Bangura, £2.2m from AIK, Aug 2011 [BBC]
67 Victor Wanyama, £900,000 from Germinal Beerschot, Jul 2011 [BBC]
02 Adam Matthews, free from Cardiff City, Jun 2011 [BBC]
06 Kelvin Wilson, free from Nottingham Forest, Jun 2011 [BBC]
46 Dylan McGeogh, free from Rangers, Jun 2011 [BBC]
15 Kris Commons, £300,000 from Derby County, Jan 2011 [BBC]
32 Tony Watt, £100,000 from Airdrie, Jan 2011 [BBC]
07 Freddie Ljungberg, free from Chicago Fire, Dec 2010 [BBC]
77 Olivier Kapo, free from Wigan Athletic, Nov 2010 [BBC]
10 Anthony Stokes, £800,000 from Hibernian, Aug 2010 [BBC]
26 Fraser Forster, (loan) from Newcastle United, Aug 2010 [BBC]
03 Emilio Izaguirre, £580,000 from Motagua, Aug 2010 [BBC]
05 Daniel Majstorovic, free from AEK Athens, Aug 2010 [BBC]
33 Beram Kayal, undisclosed from Maccabi Haifa, Jul 2010 [BBC]
88 Gary Hooper, £2.4m from Scunthorpe, Jul 2010 [BBC)
04 Efrain Juarez, undisclosed from UNAM Pumas, Jul 2010 [BBC]
27 Daryl Murphy, £1.5m from Sunderland, Jul 2010 [BBC]
16 Joe Ledley, free from Cardiff City, Jul 2010 [BBC]
11 Cha Du-Ri, free from SC Freiburg, Jul 2010 [BBC]
21 Charlie Mulgrew, free from Aberdeen, Jul 2010 [BBC]
Director talk that one Paul, focus on positives :-)
Reality a bit different in my opinion
ZIGGYDOC1 on 28TH DECEMBER 2017 4:45 PM
THEORIGINALSADIESBHOY on 28TH DECEMBER 2017 2:05 PM
Who would win a fight between The Vikings and the Peaky Fookin’ Blinders?
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No contest. The Dothraki :)
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:-)) Are they from Game of Thrones or Star Wars ? Or have Sevco taken over some Greek outfit?
Cowiebhoy.
Good post.
Add Ki to transfers for good money.
Amido Balde, poor player and the fans chant was poor too.
Hail Hail
Brown, Ntcham, Armstrong hasn’t always worked as a midfield 3. Sometimes they get too flat and too deep, there is not a genuine no10, someone to press the ball, and to receive the ball with their back to goal and link the play. Without the focal point in the no10 position the main striker can become isolated and the play breaks down. I think Brendan realises this and thats why McGregor always gets a start. On Saturday Brown is certain to play, Ntcham is improving and needs the opportunity to perform in a big game and Armstrong appeared to be rested on Tuesday. You would think if Mcgregor was playing he wouldn’t have played the 90 mins on Tuesday especially given the fact he has looked jaded recently.
Whatever trio is chosen by Brendan, getting the balance right in that no10 position will be key.
Ooooops
JimmynotPaul
Meant Ki Sung Yeung,
not Du Wei from Clogher Celts list :-))
wonder what the toilet protection plans are at CP for Sat ?
PHILBHOY on 28TH DECEMBER 2017 5:33 PM
NALLY81
PISH!
Happy new year to you!
………………
Amen to that, Philbhoy.
IVEHADTOCHANGEMYNAME
Wire the fixtures up to the mains(!)
Looking at that list again
Thank God Tyler Blackett was only on Loan :-), and Mo Bangura, dearie me
I think we Got decent money for Beram Kayal though :-))
JIMMYNOTPAUL
We were right,the “stupider” comment was not approved!
TTR
It’s Brown, Ntcham & Armstrong for me
But, I’m with KevJ on this one, will not be there to give the team we play any recognition,
KevJ misses why on earth we treat their fans differently by giving them 7500 tickets, disgusts me that
Cowiebhoy
I can understand why they get so many seats, i cannot understand the ticket price.
They need to give us full Broomloan stand as per Police. Giving them similar quota keeps the peace.
And of course, both Clubs fill their boots with the ticket prices. We don’t need the money, they do. It should be no more than £30.
BRTH from about half an hour ago.
I do believe in the ole ‘credit where credit’s due’ but for the recently launched Goals Galore competition I feel it’s only fair to point out that Marc is taking this one on his broad strong shoulders without help from me. A combination of factors meant that I was unable to offer much help until late February. But Marc was keen to try to get 2 more competitions run before the end of this season. I have of course entered and I’m looking forward to having a decent stab at securing the top spot. However it’s Marc (not for the first time) who is the driving force behind this latest fundraiser. And I’m sure it’ll be another roaring success.
Mind you, those first fixtures are tough, are they not? ;-)
BRTH-9:18pm-what’s with using JF Post from Celtic blog,to ask for more contributions ?have I missed something
Bedtime,catch up tomorrow
Thetimreaper –
Just because they need the money doesn’t necessarily mean that we need to do the same. By giving them more tickets than we ‘legally’ need to and then charging their fans far higher than we charge any other team gives the impression of regarding them as the old rivals.
When Hibs or Aberdeen fans visit Ibrox they get the wee Kraft cheese triangle section at the corner. The police and stewards do their best with that arrangement. I’m sure they could do the same with our visiting fans. And we could return the favour by giving them 900 (that’s what Aberdeen, our actual biggest rivals got).
Having said all that, I AM going on Saturday. But I’m going to support my team in exactly the same way as I support them in any other home game.
BMCUW.9.39.
Ha!! No way was that being approved.
Night all. Enjoy.
Hail Hail
I was just sitting there thinking (Charlie Nick style) when watching Hibs last night, that McGeouch and Stokes are as well away, as neither would get near our first eleven and McGinn would be as well staying where he is for the same reason. I was also left baffled as to why we drew and lost to these two, respectively.
TTR
Disagree, I believe SPFL rules are 5% max for ticket allocation – rule brought in after teflon Murray banned our fans for wee Lou’s visit
Celtic can accommodate segregation for 3000 fans (5%)
What happens at their hole is of no concern to us, as in Celtic, we just demand the 5%, they need to look after segregation and safety of such ???
Mind you, not sure how FtSFA of FtSPFL would handle that one
Force their hand though
Jobo
I thought Aberdeen get 1800 tickets ??
Cowiebhoy –
In the run up to last weekend’s game there was something on T
witter suggesting their fans were disappointed that we had cut their allocation to 900. And that also doesn’t fit in with your suggestion that away teams can demand 5% minimum, so that’s about 3,000 at our place?
Little by Little
Celtic is progressing, the Shamrock is Growing.
TTR,
It has to be said, Great analysis of the Celtic and the way they play, even ex players of this Incredible Club.
I happen to think you might be really Right about VVD, or totally wrong.
Liverpool, like Celtic, are ICONIC.
FFM Legend
Number 10 is the position that wins the Europa League.
Jobo Baldie on 28th December 2017 9:54 pm
Thetimreaper –
Just because they need the money doesn’t necessarily mean that we need to do the same. By giving them more tickets than we ‘legally’ need to and then charging their fans far higher than we charge any other team gives the impression of regarding them as the old rivals.
When Hibs or Aberdeen fans visit Ibrox they get the wee Kraft cheese triangle section at the corner. The police and stewards do their best with that arrangement. I’m sure they could do the same with our visiting fans. And we could return the favour by giving them 900 (that’s what Aberdeen, our actual biggest rivals got).
Having said all that, I AM going on Saturday. But I’m going to support my team in exactly the same way as I support them in any other home game.
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I might be daft as a brush but I’m not stupid.
We have a cracking spot just off Springfield Road for parking.
I’m likely to get harrrassed by Multiple Companies again for parking at the Celtic End.
Aidan was trying to get out of almost a week of skiing, to watch Celtic against the Hun…… Murts and Madhun made sure,,,,,,, I’m not sure. :))
I cannae wait to see CELTIC go tonto against this Newco. Rinse out the CELTIC style.
Only bad thing is………. I’m recording it… It is still Sky Sports.
Jobo
I’ve been wrong before :-)
I also remember Aberdeen requested extra tickets last season, or season before ?
Celtic refused that request as well
fairhill bhoy on 28th December 2017 9:50 pm
Hiya,
No you haven’t missed anything and the two parts of the post are unrelated.
The first part is just my musings on the idea of six potential signings this window and the latter part is just a wee thankyou to CRC, if not Jobo, for offering to do their next competition in aid of the Mary’s Meals project and adding a wee bit of info about the school etc.
Cheers
BRTH
Petec –
And that’s another thing that could be solved if their allocation was cut to 3-figures. I too have a regular car parking spot down Springfield Road way. But that becomes a no-go area at least twice a season. So I’m instead about a mile along London Road across from St Peter’s Cemetary! Grrrrr.
However, I’ll be at the ole CQN Corner from around 11.00. You and Aiden should make an appearance!
Given the damage that was done to the toilets before, there is no way Celtic should give the current Ibrox outfit an increased ticket allocation.
I know we are all meant to live within the world of football, and it would see a tit for tat reduction in numbers for any game at Ibrox, but if any other commercial business sold tickets to an organisation whose members then proceeded to maliciously damage the ticket sellers premises, those people and their organisation would never be welcomed back. They would be banned sine die.
Don’t get the ticket prices either.
Jobo Baldie,
Thanks for the invitation….. Aidan is the shyest guy ever – who knows maybe Saturday I won’t embaress him so much – I’ll be sober before and during the game.
Thanks Jobo dude.
You are a Ghetto Superstar
Cowiebhoy –
Decided to check the ole SPFL rules (by Googling ‘SPFL RUles’!) and here’s what they say
I26 The Home Club, in its absolute discretion, shall determine admission charges for
League Matches and, except for Premiership/Championship Play-Off Matches
where the minimum ticket/admission prices specified in or consented to by the
Board and the ticketing and admission arrangements all in terms of Rules C26A and
C26B shall be charged and applied by the relevant Home Club, Play-Off Matches.
I27 The Home club must make provision for the admission of such reasonable number
of visiting supporters at every home League Match and Play-Off Match as may be
agreed in advance with the Visiting Club and, in the event of their being unable to
agree such number not later than 14 days prior to the date of the League Match or
Play-Off Match in question, the number of visiting supporters allowed shall be
determined by the Board whose decision shall be final and binding.
So looks like no minimum allocation and sounds more like “we will give you X if you give us Y” between the individual teams.
I’d Love to sit with KevJungle @ a Celtic Match.
I talk the biggest nonsense ever, he talks sense.
CELTIC
Belfast and
Glasgow
CELTIC
For anyone so inclined to peruse the rules….
https://spfl.co.uk/spfl/
for the Jobo
Stone Cold…..
Be Ruthless Celtic
2 in the first 10.
Madden won’t have any idea what to do.
The LORD is Almighty
Petec –
I’m a HUGE fan of the ole Del Amitri so thank you so much for that. I had never seen that clip (I notice only 2,000+ views) so thanks again. But no more please, I’m off to ma kip as working tomorrow…
But looking forward to seeing you and Aiden on Saturday ;-)
If Celtic have got a 20% sell on on VVD.
Moussa may well go to Brighton @ 18 Mill with 20%.
BMCUWP talked about his annoying injuries.
If Celtic sell Moussa to Chelski, 30 Mill and at best 5%.
Celtic is Alright
Celtic is Good.
No more than 35, for the next Round.
Jobo Baldie,
God Bless.
My Bhoy is Aidan.
Hi Bhoys
Sitting here watching the end of Enter The Dragon. The fight scene in the hall of mirrors.
A voice says” if you destroy the image you destroy the enemy.”
So Celtic let’s destroy this mob on Saturday.
brucelee.c.s.c
KEEP THE FAITH