And, they, gave us………. Davie Hay. Enormous thanks to Davie Hay for coming onto the blog this morning. It was great to read his responses on playing for and managing Celtic. If you missed him, catch up from 09:44 here, you’ll enjoy it.
At the risk of commenting on Roy Keane when few of us know much about what happened last night…. I remain pleased we didn’t appoint him manager in the summer. Very pleased.
Really disappointed at the outcome of the Fifa investigation into the awarding of the Fifa World Cups for 2018 1nd 2022, although, as I type that sentence, the reasons perhaps become clear. As with all of these things, I’m specifically thinking about the Lord Nimmo Smith SPL inquiry here, football governing bodies ask the questions they want answered. It’s not the independence of the investigator which is important, it’s who sets the scope of investigation.
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I knew he would confirm it >}
Sipsini
How the eff you can do what you do, you have my utmost respect mi amigo, I would prob be serving mucho time by now.
Feck them, their pain is our joy.
I know we never want to play the scum again, but we will, nothing surer, just been warming up for it watching this again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIgdKlYVBoE
Apart from euro nights, when did Celtic park rock like this ?
Wheather we like it or not, they ain’t gonna die, I reckon we should just get on with it and hump the bastards time and time again.
HH
Gorra laugh. I wonder if TONY DONNELLY was in The Brazen at the time?
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ibrox-hate-figure-brian-stockbridge-4625845
And if the wee tax bill was allocated to the PAYE and NI bill then originally the PAYE was only £5.8M but the total bill was for over £14M
So I’m saying the wee tax bill brought the house down because the wee tax bill was proof that they were practising tax evasion which is a criminal offence and all grace was removed where they were concerned.
doctor whatfor
23:14 on 13 November, 2014
sipsini
Well if ye hudnae been such a tart ye might have kept the numbers down tae a manageable level. :-))
Theoriginalsadiesbhoy is the mhan for recalling the minutest detail of games from God knows how far back. ‘Dae ye mind that shy in March 1962 that Wharton gave Alloa against us?’
He hasn’t much to say about the lassies fae back then but then he was from Airdrie.
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Wash your mouth out with soap on several counts.
That shy wisnae given to Alloa, it was Arbroath
I’m from Coatbridge, not that Godless cesspit, Airdrie, that won yon Carbunkle on the face of society award.
Also, I can remember most of the names of the lassies I went out with. I’ve tried successfully over the years to forget the names of a few whom I attribute any association with to youthful drunkenness. I deny outright that some of those lassies were in fact l………. .
Good evening all(just)
A wee thingy for all you dinosaurs, :-))))
@MattMcGlone9: Film lost for 38 years re-surfaces, David Bowie’s 1973 Top of the Pops performance of The Jean Genie http://t.co/7ZSb3eKBox
Night Night Timland.
Weefra HH praying to Wee Oscar.
Just watched that vid, yep they were brazen they just walked out of there as if they were on the game.
Now who is the toxic financier ?
Is Jackson saying Mike Ashley’s money is tainted or gained illegally ?
I think we should be told
TET
Jackson was tweeting about Stockbridge meeting Ashleys
men in same hotel Scotland are staying in on Wednesday.
Stockbridge hunted from Ibrox left in January with £220,000
of shares puchased for 7,700 quid.
Story in record was suggesting Ashleys guys just getting filled
in on History.
I wonder if its to find out of any more contracts where
people were getting cheap shares that old big hauns set up
that not everyone was aware of as admitted by board to LSE.
THE EXILED TIM
23:20 on
13 November, 2014
Since Christmas is coming up, this must be worth a watch again.
Oh ma aching sides
Nice one Chuck
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it is brilliant, now we know what he did and you play it back he is such a great actor.
Think maybe Jackson might rue the day he called Mike Ashley a toxic financier, wonder if follow follow or rangers media will write to MA advising him of this and asking him if his lawyers will be making a formal investigation
offski.
night.
ive got to shift 60 bottles of spirits tomorrow.
doon the port.
start at 09:00 tesco car park.
will be home by 09:12.
Evening bhoys,
Introduced myself to the tea-time CQN brigade earlier in the week and made it relatively unscathed (only 2 Hun accusations :) ).
Have been reading CQN for about 10 years (without posting much) so I know that outing myself on the nightshift is a totally different animal ! Some say moon howlers, some say the undead (there can only be one set of zombies) – I say yer aw fine celtic lhads like myself !
Hope you dont mind if I drop in from time to time and exchange my inane drivel amongst ma ain folk.
ST holder with mini calves in FS1. I am a beacon of green and white here in the kingdon of Fife aka Darnel Central.
Been down at Renewables UK in Manchester today – any other hemp wearing tree huggers out there ?
Had a couple of beers after a 5 hour drive back so starting to talk pash !
What have I missed today – have the huns still no managed to prove that a diamond mine and shergar are under Paradise ? deary me, they really are the gift that keeps giving – do you think they will always be this clueless ? Surely this pantomime is better than them dying ! :)
Hail hail lads.
CHC (wi the big calves)
jc2
Thanks for that.
HH
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Just watched this as well, the place is really jumpin, and I reckon it will be the same when we play the scum again.
The noise and support is special.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbaP8RHDTgo
HH
PS
No way am I wantin to play them again, but we will, it’s gonna happen, so just gettin in the mood >}
Exiled tim ……….
We’ve never played Sevco.
Saint Stivs
Drink them with your pals,refill with pish n put them back where you got them ;)
Sleep well Timland.
I reckon we have gotten away with the biggest scandal ever, the state aid thing, Pedro has well earned his bonus me thinks.
So we can go ahead and build the tunnel now, the gold reserves will keep us going for effin years, not to mention the coal and the oil.
HH
KTF
moravcik
Ach, I know, but the biggest majority of the support don’t know, sadly.
We will play their bastard incarnation then…….
Same support, same shit.
HH
KTF
St stivs
Yer welcome.
Liquidated enough not to have to pay those on the list, but not enough to be a new club.
Aye, right.
The clubs stance on the next Glasgow Derby
Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire
23:48 on
13 November, 2014
Auldheid,
Sorry you lost me, the money £4.2M was it?
Was ring fenced and they never got it, is that what you are saying?
You’ll need to work that one out for me here, if it was ring fenced how could they not have got it ?
If they never got it then that being the initial overdue payable (see what I did there) must have been the one that brought the house down, surely simple logic works here, aye they stopped paying PAYE and NI but had the wee tax bill no been overdue then there would have been similar grace on the bigger one.
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I got this from the Late Paul McConville’s site. He is more accurate than journos.
HMRC – Small Tax Case
Talking of cases where it appears Club do not wish to pay, as has been commented before, it is understood that HMRC successfully arrested £2.3 million of the agreed liability in the “small tax case”. The passage of time since the arrestment means that, in the event of Rangers going into administration or liquidation, HMRC would be preferred creditors for that sum. If Rangers went into receivership though, the legal position is less clear. On one view, the funds would go to the receiver to satisfy the creditor under the floating charge (Rangers FC Group Ltd aka “Group” which is Mr Whyte’s vehicle for owning Rangers Football Club PLC or “Club”). There is an alternative view, which places me in the minority, that there is a preference for HMRC in that event too. I won’t give myself a migraine analysing that any more, unless and until such an event comes to pass!
If the arrestment lasts for 14 weeks without Rangers agreeing to hand the funds over to HMRC, and without an insolvency event taking place, then the funds are automatically paid over by the bank holding them to HMRC. It seems that the 14 weeks expires in early December. Mr Whyte indi9cated that, in the contract he had with the Murray Group to buy Rangers, that Group would pay this bill. There has still been no explanation I have seen as to why this agreed sum has not been paid.
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I had a wee look and by Oct a sum of £9,294,102.14 was billed by HMRC for the wee tax case sum (circa £2.8m) plus unpaid PAYE/Tax/Vat for the balance.
Whatever HMRC had ringfenced had not been seized by Oct and given that by Feb 2012 the sum due was reported as £9m+ then the wee tax case was part of what pushed HMRC to act but the uncollected PAYE and VAT were the main spur for administration as these amounts in theory had been taken from players/suppliers but not passed on to HMRC. (Lets call it robbery :) )
What influenced me was reading a note that CW was disappointed HMRC were allocating the frozen but not collected amount towards the total bill which I thought was £14m but on checking was reported in Feb as £9m.
However neither the wee tax sum or other tax was collected.
Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire
I would say that CWs behaviour in the months from May 2011 up to October in avoiding making any payment to the wee tax case must have played its part in pissing off HMRC by Oct then Feb 2012.
Auldheid,
Just to let you know why I’m being so pedantic, I was trying to explain to a rabid hun that Whyte was not responsible for the the administration, he was responsible for the liquidation but the initial and IMO fundamental demise of the hun was through tax evasion and the wee tax case, yes Whyte could have probably paid it but the bottom line was if his plan was always to liquidate then the best way to piss off HMRC was to laugh at their attempts to punish evasion.
And they couldn’t blame him for the tax evasion, a small but important detail
theoriginalsadiesbhoy 23.58
Well, you would say that. Yer frae Airdrie. :-)))
weeman67@19:41
“I am a US citizen and as I hold my pint in my right hand I guess I tend to lean to the right.
But what I can’t understand is what does a nutter have to gain telling another nutter that he is a nutter……??
At least I am not a “Hypocrite”………When is your next trip to the good ole US of A..??
I am away oot to tend to my Orchids, will check in later for your date of arrival..??”
Just caught this on the blog from earlier. Are you the poster who posted that stuff about Obama being the first president not to go to Normandy for D-day celebrations or am I confusing you with someone else with a similar posting name?
There was nothing anti-american about my post. I can distinguish the good people of the USA from the right wing libertarian nutters who shame it.
jeez_thought_blinker_was_pants 00.47
There’s only one Glasgow Derby. Us and the jags. End Feckin of. X
bamboo@20:07
“STBF
It may have escaped your notice but the Russia of today is a capitalist country.
Bawsman
The peoples of east Ukraine refuse to be governed by a motley crew of neo facists.
You have to realise the western media is not reporting whats actually happening there.
If your on FaceBook look at Graham Philips page as he is out there on the ground making videos and telling whats really happening.”
It did not escape my notice because that is the point I commented upon. How could someone see Russia opposing Ukraine as an anti-fascist position when Putin’s Russia has strong pro-fascist leanings itself. I know you see it through a lens that exaggerates the role of the minority fascist movement in the Ukraine but this is a complex issue. It is not the Cold War. It is not East v West. It is EC vs Russian Oil & Gas sphere of interest.
I am not on facebook and I don’t read the guy you cite. I am aware of the many contrasting voices and pictures but Putin is nobody’s good guy.
Neil canamalar
That makes sense especially if to a hun.
However a factor was he was skint and had they not lost to Malmo/Maribor he could have settled. As we know this was part of his dealing with HMRC when he tried to put them off collecting, but I would not clarify that to the guy.
I note that the amount owed to HM Revenue & Customs at end of the day was £14,372,042 which will be that £9m odds plus (I’m assuming) unpaid tax/NI/VAT from May 2012 up to liquidation.
So, Campbell Ogilvie is responsible for the death of the famous Glasgow rangers when he introduced a tax evasion scheme to the club to gain an illegal sporting advantage, hence his lack of integrity in trying to provide any possible means to save any relic of said cadaver.
Oh natural justice, karma whatever you want to call it, it’s coming full circle and cleaning up all the mess he created, a prison sentence is ……..
Auldheid,
Your assuming he was going to pay creditors with the European winnings :)))
I think we’ve been over this before
Assumption and presumption are the mother and father of all f… ups
How would Green have fitted into anything else, it was all planned and when Whyte found the wee tax case which he made sure the whole world knew about, he found his liquidation trigger, withholding the PAYE and NI was alway on the cards he was miffed by the loss of euro money because it was money lost to his siphoning plans.
SFTB,
Your being very naive if you think the Cold War stopped because the Berlin Wall came down.
This is simply a continuation of a Cold War that never stopped.
canamalar
I am heading to bed so this is brief.
The Cold War has definitely stopped. Russia and China are both practising forms of capitalism so they are not ideological enemies of the USA. They are all in conflict as they are rival super powers but the communism vs capitalism element has long since left the room
Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire
The assumption is based on the “deal” done by CW with HMRC to get around the WTC bill being due/overdue.
HMRC would have expected payment by end of August had RFC qualified. CW would have to have borrowed against those future winnings, but HMRC would not have called in SOs in August had CL money been assured. It was CL exit that triggered that.
That does not invalidate your theory that liquidation was the ultimate aim to shed the potential BTC though, but the paperwork supports the idea that CW was using lure of CL money to keep HMRC at bay on the wtc.
A condition of the soviet breakup was NATO would not move closer Russia’s borders, immediately after the break up NATO doubled in size 12 to 24 nations and told the world Russia was still the aggressor. And the MSM are still telling you the same story and on thus subject you are swallowing it, hook line and sinker.
While your pals in Poland who are violently opposed to anything left wing are out fascisming anything the Russians have attempted have the backing of NATO.
Yes this is a complex situation but not as complex as the MSM would like you to believe.
Neil canamalar
CW did not “find” the wtc liability. It was ongoing from Oct 2010 and liability accepted in March 2011 and entered in RFC accounts published on 1st April 2011 before CW took over. CW took over that liability in May 2011.
The msm blew lots of smoke around the wtc at the time news of it broke.
SFTB,
China has been practising capitalism for 40 years ffs, so don’t drag them into it, I remember the orphan girls being left on the streets to die because they were only allowed one baby and everyone in the west swallowed that story hook line and sinker too, meanwhile they had private health care, private insurance, competitive markets and suddenly there are millions of families with 4 & 5 over the age of 20 where did they all come from, maybe the child catchers were all running around Germany that day looking for Potts kids.
Or maybe the Banks were pulling off the biggest fraud in history and their propaganda was feeding the idiots abroad the same story they’re feeding still.
Meanwhile the bankers are still defrauding billions an hour, west minister is still not being investigated for paedophile rings and oil & gas companies are still being allowed to slaughter indiscriminately, then again you might be right maybe it’s all Russia’s fault like the MSM is telling us
The msm blew lots of smoke around the wtc at the time news of it broke.
Did certain people at CFC welcome the cover ,for whatever reason ?
Did CFC know exactly what was going on over the way ,but chose to ignore it?
Auldheid,
If you cast your mind back, Craig Whyte done a due diligence and uncovered the wee tax case in 2010 which he wanted guarantees on as part of that takeover. That is how he got the lot for a quid. The information was not disclosed he had to find it hence all the noise about it hence it being “declared” as you call it.