Green and the interests of Scottish football

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I’ve read yesterday’s statement from prospective Rangers owner, Charles Green, a few times now, without really understanding what the point was.  When someone issues an unexpected statement the reason is usually obvious.  Not on this occasion.

Published on the official Rangers web site it once and for all confirmed that Duff and Phelps were acting with the approval of Green when they took the SFA to the Court of Session, thereby bringing the entire Scottish game into a potential disrepute situation with Fifa.

Mr Green will now be fully aware of the ramifications of Rangers court action.  They failed in their attempt to have the matter referred back for consideration to the Judicial Panel and, as Paul McConville pointed out yesterday, cannot be ejected from the Scottish Cup.  They are not currently participating in the Scottish Cup, and suspension from a future season’s Cup is not an available punishment.

His legal advice is now likely to conclude that his actions will soon lead to suspension from the Scottish FA.  There is, however, an interesting theme through Green’s short statement that might indicate why his statement was issued:

“I nor my investors wish to see an outcome that would be to the detriment of Scottish Football”.

“….suspension or termination of Rangers Football Club membership of the SFA. That in our view would be a disaster for Scottish football”.

“Expulsion from the Scottish Cup is itself a very serious punishment which would also have a severe impact on Scottish football”.

We are heartened to hear the interests of Scottish football are so core to Mr Green’s heart.  This being the case, he will possibly protect Scottish football by asking the SFA to impose the now-illegal player registration ban on Rangers and beg them not to refer the matter back to the Appellate Panel. The horse has bolted on this one but it’s possibly worth a punt.

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  1. South of Tunis

     

    “Particularly good on the absurdities of Moral Positivism and the dangers of rigid ideological certainty..”

     

     

    So its a brammer of a book then por cierto..

  2. In response to Billy’s post earlier, Derek posted this…

     

     

    Maybe I’m being stupid here, but I don’t get this thread. If they had a QC argue their case at the SFA, and we had a QC argue our case at the SFA – what’s the difference. Is the reason it’s being treated differently, just because we took it to the law courts?

     

     

    I wonder if any of them will actually get around to reading the rule book and understanding how simple it was for Paul McBride to get Neil Lennon off (sort of).

  3. hoopeddreams on

    Modern absurdities of Moral Positivism and the dangers of rigid ideological certainty is rubbish.

     

     

    DBBIAinabsentia CSC

  4. Steinreignedsupreme on

    RalphWaldoEllison fights ALS on 5 June, 2012 at 11:44 said:

     

    Steinreignedsupreme and Som mes que un club

     

     

    “Thanks for all your help.

     

     

    “If either of you are going to Philly on Aug 11, be good to catch up.

     

    There’ll be a pint waiting for you.”

     

     

    Cheers for the offer. I’m saving the dosh for European trips.

     

     

    No Stateside visits for at least a year.

  5. Billy’s wee bro…

     

     

     

    “There seems to be an alarming rise in Republicanism in this country. Too many people served by self-interest, bitterness and hatred. To them, having a kick at Rangers is as good as having a kick at the monarchy and unionism.”

  6. hoopeddreams on

    And again-

     

     

    I saw Absurdities of Moral Positivism and the dangers of rigid ideological certainty at the olllllleeeeeeeeeeeee Burns Howff.

     

    What a waste of time and money that was.

  7. Billy’s banjo teacher…

     

     

    Only signing Protestants still sticks in peoples craws even though we have moved on from that era but when you consider the two most successful Clubs on the planet are from Protestant backgrounds, Rangers and Linfield, we must have been doing something right.

     

     

     

    Correct me if I’m wrong but I dont think theres ever been a Protestant in the bheggars boardroom, has there?

     

     

     

    So for me, Protestant, British and the most successful Club in the World is why we’re hated – No one likes, We dont care!

     

     

    So many keys… so many buses….

  8. The Spirit of Arthur Lee on

    Was watching the Gig in the Mall last night with WG and Nafos and as soon as Grace Jones came on we all thought of that great Cqn poster Joshybhoy.

  9. By Tony Banannas:

     

     

    You are the Ref / You are the Hack

     

    You Are The Ref in a Huns Game

     

     

    Query No.1

     

     

    At a tense late stage of an important SPL fixture with European qualification at stake, the ball is drifting harmlessly out for an uncontroversial throw-in when suddenly the field of play is invaded by a jolly japester from the Question of Sport team.

     

     

    Do you?

     

     

    a) Award a throw in as he’s just having a laugh

     

     

    b) Award a contested drop ball

     

     

    c) Book the jolly japester according to the laws of the game for infringing on the field of play [I have a sense of humour!]

     

     

    d) Save time and give Rangers their penalty

     

     

    Answer… do you really need me to tell you?

     

     

     

    You Are the Hack reporting on a Huns game

     

     

    At a tense late stage of an important SPL fixture with European qualification at stake, the ball is drifting harmlessly out for an uncontroversial throw-in when suddenly the field of play is invaded by a jolly japester from the Question of Sport team.

     

     

    Do you?

     

     

    a) Write about how loveable and cheeky and funny and cheeky the jolly japester is, and how it’s really no fair to criticise him for cheating on his wife. After all, it was only the dozen times and at least he wasn’t beating her up. Throw in a bit of 9-in-a-row nostalgia and give Wattie a few sycophantic mentions

     

     

    b) Write something wistful about how the incident showed the jolly japester hasn’t lost it and if he had been on the park tonight in his prime, this game, the league and quadrauple would be tied up months ago. Throw in a bit of 9-in-a-row nostalgia for good measure with a few mentions of Gazza and Laudo.

     

     

    c) Question why the incident went unpunished by the referee [I have a sense of humour!]

     

     

    d) Question why the referee didn’t award Rangers their penalty and speculate about his Irishy sounding name.

     

     

    Answer… any or all of a,b or d will have you in contention for a job at the sportsdesk of any of the following Scottish red tops:

     

     

    3 correct answers = Daily Ranger

     

    2 correct answers = Scottish Hun

     

    1 correct answer = Daily Gerspress

  10. I may live in a fantasy world but what chance the ‘King of kings’ slotting into Thommo’s old job?

     

     

    PS, Thommo thanks for the memories old son, top bloke and long time hun slayer.

  11. David Murray blasts the SPL, UEFA, Manchester City Council, the Pope, Lee Harvey Oswald, the Bogeyman, people with ginger hair etc. etc. etc.

     

    IBROX STADIUM 15:30hrs 8th May 2008

     

     

    Rangers financial guru and all round darned good chappie David Murray is today reported to be furious at the planned fans three-a-side football competition to be held in Castlefield, Manchester prior to the UEFA Cup Final on Wednesday 14th May 2008.

     

     

    Murray has called the decision to hold such an event deplorable and is reported to have said that it made Manchester City Council the laughing stock of Europe, if not the world, the Solar System and the Universe, for not allowing the Rangers faithful enough time to prepare for the event.

     

     

    He pointed to the fact that the Zenit St Petersburg fans will have had a weekend off to prepare for these vital encounters and has slammed the SPL for not applying more pressure on Manchester City Council to at least have the tournament extended to the following week to allow the fans time to recover from their hangovers and sacking the city……

     

     

    George Burley waded in to the debate and said that no other Scottish team would be treated so badly and Rangers fans are victims of their own success following the sacking of Barcelona and should be allowed at least an extra day’s drinking time.

     

     

    Gordon Smith said that Rangers fans have been treated unfairly and questioned why UEFA couldn’t disqualify Zenit and switch the opposition to a Catholic team so that the Rangers fans would all know to try extra hard.

     

     

    Keith Jackson confirmed that he wouldn’t be needing a third player for his Rangers fans entry, as James Traynor’s two faces will make up the second and third. Darrell King is said to be unhappy at this snub but is set to approach Big Fat DJ and Lill “we have a big Rangers man with us in the studio” Beckie.

     

     

    Walter Smith was sitting in a corner, in a jacket zipped up the back drooling, and mumbling something that sounded like “McCurry will make sure everyhin’s awright”

  12. South Of Tunis on

    Seven Fishes four Steaks.

     

     

    Barzaghli ?

     

     

    He injured his calf playing v Russia last Friday night —— he was ruled out for 3 games —- but it is now being said that he might be fit to play . If he isn’t —– Inter’s Ranocchia will be called up . Many people [ including me ] think that Ranocchia is the better player.

     

     

    Juve have said Chielini is fit to play . Chielini has said he is fit to play . The Italian team Doctor has said that Chielini is fit to play.

  13. Kitalba’s on a roll this fine rain-soaked day as it hammers down on the fascists’ parade.

  14. Googybhoy – season 4 goes on sale in the USA this week.

     

    No idea about UK release of season 4 although I believe season 3 UK release is imminent.

     

     

    googybhoy ♥ Celtic and the Lisbon Lions on 5 June, 2012 at 09:59 said:

     

    aldersyde avenue on 5 June, 2012 at 09:37said:

     

    Some news for breaking bad fans.

     

     

    Any word on Series 4 on DVD?

  15. Re. Start of the new season. I believe there is an Olympic football quarter final at Hampden on Sat 4 Aug.

     

     

    That suggests to me that our opening home fixture will be on Sun 5 August.

  16. Joe Filippis Haircut on

    I think the Alan Thompson dismissal is very unfortunate and may well have an unsettling affect on the club.I just hope Celtic offered him counseling if it was an alchol related problem and also followed the correct procedures including the required warnings.I have already said I liked Thompson he was an up and at them type of guy and never ducked a challenge however,he may have the biggest challenge of his life if drink has become a problem for him.H.H.

  17. aldersyde avenue on 5 June, 2012 at 12:36 said:

     

    Googybhoy – season 4 goes on sale in the USA this week.

     

     

    No idea about UK release of season 4 although I believe season 3 UK release is imminent.

     

    ………….

     

    Got season 3 from.Amazon few months ago.

     

    Looking forward to 4.

  18. Magnificentseven on

    aldersyde avenue on 5 June, 2012 at 12:40 said:

     

     

     

    Re. Start of the new season. I believe there is an Olympic football quarter final at Hampden on Sat 4 Aug.

     

     

    That suggests to me that our opening home fixture will be on Sun 5 August.

     

     

     

    no quarter final at Hampden on 4th

     

     

    Old Trafford, Manchester: Quarter-final (1200).

     

    Wembley Stadium, London: Quarter-final (1430).

     

    St James’ Park, Newcastle: Quarter-final (1700).

     

    Millennium Stadium, Cardiff: Quarter-final (1930).

  19. !!Bada Bing!! on

    Living Social offering personalised A3 Celtic Print for £8,might be a nice present.

  20. Ghuys

     

     

    Thinking about the revised sanctions on the Shame. I expect the Panel to take into consideration what the CoS stated but they will still use the framework of the rules to settle on a just outcome.

     

     

    Piut simply, the Shame should be relegated for adopting a funding strategy whereby HMRC pick up the tab for season 2011 -12, it is very very clear this should happen.

     

     

    The SPL currently have no appetite for this, with Doncaster stepping over the line on more than one occasion, so how do the SFA panel get round this , without it being explicitly being written into the rules.

     

     

    Simple, use the discretion written into the rules , in effect tell the CoS to do one, and do the following:

     

     

    – instruct the SPL to relegate the Shame

     

    – increase the transfer ban to 2 years

     

     

    This will set the SFA on a collision course with the SPL however this is needed, as the SPL cannot be trusted to do what is right.

     

     

    The wreckage from this will be The Shame, SPL, and Duff £ Phelps (UK).

     

     

    The SPL will be wound up next summer,

     

     

    Crystalballcfc

  21. Olympic footie at Hampden.

     

    There is a quatrer final of the womens football on the 3rd of August.

  22. Imatim and so is Neil Lennon on

    2010 Never Again

     

     

    The future’s bright – It’s green and white

     

     

    Read on………

     

     

    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

     

     

    Herald

     

     

    TUESDAY 5 JUNE 2012

     

    by Alan Campbell

     

     

    Football’s future looks bright with the class of 2012

     

     

     

    WITH yet another major championship about to get under way without a Scottish presence, questions are again being asked about the underlying reasons for a run stretching back to France in 1998.

     

     

    The failure to reach three World Cups and four European Championships is a sad indictment of the Scottish FA’s long-running youth initiative, but could recent developments lead to a brighter future?

     

     

    Lessons, it seems, are being learned from previous mistakes. It is now three years since Celtic started a project combining football and education on a scale never seen before in the British game. It was subsequently adopted at a lower age group by Dundee United, while the SFA will roll out seven performance schools of their own in August.

     

     

    The footballing aim of the Celtic and Dundee United schools is unambiguous: to produce players of a Champions League calibre. The bigger picture is to nurture better educated, well-rounded citizens who will have decent academic qualifications to fall back on if the many pitfalls of life and professional sport take their toll.

     

     

    It doesn’t need the caricature of the thick, sozzled Scottish footballer, or the reality of teenagers being dumped by their clubs with no prospects ahead of them, to accept that any such initiative needs to be applauded. No matter what emerges in the wake of a second disastrous season for Scottish football, finding new, and better, ways to produce players is the only way the sport can survive in its professional guise.

     

     

    The concept of football training being based round a school may be novel in Britain, but as Celtic’s head of youth development, Chris McCart, discovered it is commonplace elsewhere in Europe. “In the first six months of 2008, myself, Peter Lawwell and John Park went around Europe, benchmarking clubs,” he says. “We went to Red Star Belgrade, Partizan, Benfica, Villarreal, PSV Eindhoven – and one thing that struck us was that every club we went to based its youth development around a school. PSV was a great example. There were about 25-30 buses taking their youth players in and out of the school.”

     

     

    In hugely fortuitous circumstances, St Ninian’s High School in Kirkintilloch was chosen for the Celtic project. Not only was it close to the club’s training academy at Lennoxtown, but the school itself had just been rebuilt and boasted new sports facilities, including football pitches and a fitness suite.

     

     

    The headmaster, Paul McLaughlin, had been nominated Scotland’s head teacher of the year and embraced the challenge of fitting in 14 new pupils into his S3 classes. This being the west of Scotland, it is sadly necessary to point out that St Ninian’s is a Roman Catholic school but, despite the fact that 75% of the new Celtic intake were not of that religious faith, this issue has caused no problems whatsoever according to the head teacher.

     

     

    This coming August, in the fourth year of the project, both school and club feel confident enough to introduce Celtic youth players at S2 level. Dundee United’s project started in 2010, and they plunged in at the deep end, with boys being introduced to St John’s High School in the city at S1 level under a very similar scheme sanctioned by Craig Levein when he was director of football at the club.

     

     

    Two of the third-year pupils who kicked the Celtic project off in 2009, Paul George and Stuart Findlay, have already played for the first team. Findlay, a 16-year-old left-sided central defender, is an outstanding exemplar for the project. So successful was he that his parents and head teacher had a real dilemma when he was offered a full-time contract by Celtic this time last year; he had excelled in his Standard Grades and the school were very keen that he should stay on to sit his Highers.

     

     

    The player, who made his first-team debut in a recent testimonial match against Norwich City, decided to take the contract on offer but study for Highers in his own time at college. He recently sat English and Maths in between marking Grant Holt at Carrow Road and representing Scotland Under-20s in a tournament in Amsterdam.

     

     

    What’s most impressive about St Ninian’s is the sacrifices the boys and their parents are making in a day which starts at 6am and usually finishes with an exhausted head hitting the pillow before 10pm.

     

     

    It was a regime familiar to McCart, a promising swimmer, when he himself was at school. But whereas other sports have long recognised there is no gain without early morning pain, Scottish football has been fatally resistant to the rather obvious point that players might actually have to work much harder, and make sacrifices, if they are to emulate the ever-improving standards of other nations.

     

     

    Instead of the four evening training sessions they would otherwise have done, the boys at St Ninian’s are bused in from their homes and are working hard on their skills long before the academic day starts. After school they are given until 5pm to do homework, and then it’s more training at Lennoxtown before heading home.

     

     

    None of this is cheap. It costs Celtic £200,000 a year to run the project, and that will increase with the new S2 age group in August. Transport costs alone are £75,000, including the salaries of two drivers.

     

     

    The club also provides coaches and tutors, as well as sports scientists and welfare officers. Some boys come from other parts of Scotland and are housed with local families – another big cost for Celtic.

     

     

    It’s all inspiring, though, and this at a school which already provided Celtic with Paul Wilson, Stephen Crainey and Charlie Mulgrew without any such resources in place. McCart, who brings an intense professionalism to youth development, is in no doubt about what he wants the project to achieve.

     

     

    “Our main purpose is to produce a Champions League player, a player of the very highest standard,” he says. “We want to create a world-class academy, excelling in coaching, sports science and education.

     

     

    “Whereas before these boys were only training for about eight hours a week, now it is up to 20 including a game. They are doing 800-900 hours a season, which is important because there is no magic formula for becoming a great footballer – it’s down to hard work, dedication and practice.

     

     

    “The players’ education is improving and each has an individual programme from which we can demonstrate that their stamina, speed and jumping ability has improved dramatically. Now, when they go full time with us they are hitting the ground running.

     

     

    We have 24 players representing Scotland at age-group level, so we think we must be doing something right. We’ve also had English clubs coming up to look at what we’re doing and they will be introducing schools into their elite academy programmes as well.”

     

     

    Not only is the project innovative and exciting, it is also wholesome and a reminder of what sport should be about in these morally bankrupt days when match fixing and repugnant tax avoidance schemes for millionaires have been stealing the headlines.

  23. There is definitely a pro-unionist bent on CQN

     

     

    Unionists in general suffer from a lack of class (war)

     

     

    Having Elton John & Paul McCartney play the jubilee concert, and they’re also going to play during the Olympic opening ceremony, don’t think they would understand the irony of that.

     

     

    For these guys its just another gig, and another chance to maintain their profile, whereas at Beijing they got 15,000 ordinary people to put on a spectacular show, each of whom will remember their part forever.

     

     

    What a difference in the way they treat human beings! In the UK the plebs can sit and watch on TV or pay to watch at a distance removed from the stage, separated by security staff paid hourly on the minimum wage, in China, participation is actively encouraged.