I read a lot of confidence that the appointment of Eddie Howe is a done deal, all a matter of getting Bournemouth’s play-off games out of the way to allow the appointment of his backroom staff. If only the world worked this way.
Managerial appointments have commercial consequences. If Celtic had a manager contracted, the stock market would be informed at an early opportunity. Negotiations are no one else’s business but it is inappropriate to keep commercially sensitive information like this from the market.
Eddie may have shaken hands, spent an hour with the media team for a planned reveal, but a contract? Sorry. You will know very soon after that is signed. Until then, it is a draft document.
It also makes no sense waiting on the availability of backroom staff before announcing the manager, who could easily tell the media, “I’m working on the backroom team and will let you know when there is news.”
His former Bournemouth assistants will either join him in his next job, stay where they are, or go elsewhere. Eddie will take another job, with or without them. This could be the reason proffered for the lack of a signature, but I’m not buying it.
There is also the dirty little subject. Imagine for a moment the pressure inside every business unit at Celtic Park. The finance team will have nervous twitches looking at statements and forecasts. Those in the retail department will be battering their F5 keys and calling everyone in the business hoping for information. Ticketing have their busiest two month’s work to cram into an ever-decreasing window. The Foundation and the many who depend on it for support and assistance – jeez – they need our help more than anyone. “Just. Do. It.” will be the message from every department head.
An entire enterprise is waiting on one statement to allow it to trade normally. Do you really think Celtic are so chilled about money would sit on news that forgoes this cash? Really?
You and I have seen a lot of the football business. We know that if a talent is good enough, he is incentivised to keep his options open until the last possible moment. This scenario, I buy. Anyway, have a nice Thursday!
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Surely there’s no chance of a new management team until they have completed the review of the current team?
You would look a bit stupid if you appointed a new team and then the review came out and said that the current one is doing great and should continue.
To paraphrase someone – the review will be well worth the wait.
QUADROPHENIAN on 13TH MAY 2021 1:44 PM
To paraphrase mrs Merton “what was it that attracted you to one of the twelve largest clubs in Europe with its huge transfer budgets and massive managers salaries?”
https://thecelticstar.com/celtic-promise-additional-value-to-season-ticket-holders-as-deadline-approaches/
well nearly a year Celtic mentioned ADDED VALUE to our season tickets
maybe they think we will forget
55, 150 year old institution.
Shame on you @CelticFC and everyone involved for for allowing this nonsense to continue since 2012.
https://www.rangers.co.uk/Article/club-statement-130521/1glg97x0CkSyzYqtHE2yeg
5WA = not a peep.
New club status = Rory Bremner joke = not good enough.
Titles of old club transferred to new club = not a peep.
Wee tax could’ve and should’ve been pursued = not a peep.
Scottish Governor punish other clubs not them = not a peep.
Palestinian flag inside stadium = club up in arms.
Disgusting, absolutely disgusting.
CELTIC40ME
So he’s Debbie McGee and we’re not even Paul Daniels? Cute and sad.
If we’re such a poor choice compared to a Spurs or Palace or the like, well we can agree that’s a big problem.
We should be pitching this opportunity to someone who might get us, and want to be part of what we can be.
The way Leeds got Bielsa (on 5mill p/a) when they were still a fairly unglamorous, Championship mob.
And really, who is EH compared to how big Celtic are. We used to be somebody!!
67 EUROPEAN CUP WINNERS on 13TH MAY 2021 1:44 PM
‘I have never bought into the confirmation, 100% done deal – that its Eddie Howe
Until he has signed a contract with Celtic anything is possible’
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Is Arelene still available at 500 to 1?
You had to be suspicious when Arlene gave her gig up.
Personally I might lump on big Judith.
If she vanishes from the weather get your money on.
Seriously though, even if Eddie is dragged screaming
to Paradise, is that what we really want?
He will be gone at the next best offer.
So lets appoint Eddie’s replacement before he arrives.
Take it away Judith……….
If it’s not Eddie then it has to be a big name otherwise the ticket office and superstore can sit back and expect a quiet time.
Eddy Howe will be the new manager.
TURKEYBHOY on 13TH MAY 2021 2:28 PM
I would hope that after all of this time then it will be Howe but we are talking about Celtic here…
QUADROPHENIAN on 13TH MAY 2021 2:03 PM
CELTIC40ME
If we’re such a poor choice compared to a Spurs or Palace or the like, well we can agree that’s a big problem.
No we can’t. Spurs are also a European super league club.
The epl tv deal has been rolled over so loads more lolly for the likes of crystal palace, Brighton and Norwich city
Maybe we do have a plan B….wait until after the cup final and hope that we can be sold on “cup-winning” Jack Ross….
If Eddie Howe is keeping his options open, at what point do we tell HIM “thanks but no thanks” rather than hearing it from him?
Very happy to disagree.
QUADROPHENIAN on 13TH MAY 2021 2:03 PM
I think we can realistically say that Tottenham would be a far bigger pull than Celtic. They were in the Champions League final only a couple of years ago and while Mourinho dragged them down, there’s certainly potential there. As for Palace, well they’re a club that are simply happy to survive and any manager choosing them over us would be doing it purely for the money.
TURKEYBHOY on 13TH MAY 2021 2:28 PM
Eddy Howe will be the new manager
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I think so too TURKEYBHOY. If not Howe, then we certainly need someone with a similar focus on player improvement, tactics, fitness – like BR also had.
McKay, Harkins and Howe as a senior football management triumvirate would be a pleasant prospect, so hopefully the delay is just getting all the ducks in a row…
I notice you do seem sure about this – is it faith or do you have any inside info? No need to tell me what it is :-))
HH
BGFC
Quick update on some strikers identified around a month ago (and in a probably vain attempt to head off a politics discussion) –
Ercan Kara (25) 2.25m – Rapid Vienna (App 30, goals 14)
No goals in the last 3 games, and was on the bench for the last one.
Mohamed Bayo (22) 2.7m – Clermont Foot (App 37, goals 21)
3 goals and 2 assists in his last 4 games. Finishing the season strongly along with his team Clermont who sit 2nd in the French Ligue 2 so will be promoted. Would be surprised if mid-table French clubs aren’t showing interest………..or Brentford.
Thomas Henry (26) 3.2m – OH Leuven (App 31, goals 21)
Jupiler league is now completed bar the play-offs, with Leuven finishing 11th.
Jonas Wind (22) 4m – Copenhagen (App 25, goals 13)
2 goals, 3 assists in last 7 Danish play-off round games.
Jean-Pierre Nsame (27) 7m – Young Boys (App 29, goals 18)
Season may be tailing off, only 2 assists in the last 5 games where he’s been regularly subbed.
Arthur Cabral (23) 7.2m – Basel (App 31, goals 18)
3 goals, 2 assists in his last 4 games.
Mergim Berisha (22) 10m – SCR Altach (App 27, goals 14)
Regular starter now for RB Salzburg, 1 goal 3 assists in last 4 games.
Paul Onuachu (26) 15m – Genk (App 36, goals 32)
Involved in the Jupiler league play-offs, where he’s scored 3 in 3. Finishing the league very strongly, too rich for us.
And a couple of new names, with a focus on the Belgian Jupiler league –
Yuma Suzuki (25) 2.2m – Sint-Truiden (App 34, goals 17)
Generally non-descript career but excelled this year, scoring 17 goals at a struggling club who finished 15th and narrowly avoided relegation. With Yuma accounting for 17 of the team’s total 44 goals.
Ike Ugbo (22) 2.5m – Cercle Brugge (App 32, goals 16)
On loan from Chelsea with a circa 5m option to buy. Also spent last season on loan at Roda JC (Dutch 2nd tier) where he scored 13 in 28. Cercle Brugge finished 16th, just avoiding relegation, with Ike scoring 16 of their total 40 goals.
In attracting a manager what’s important isn’t how we see ourselves but how we’re seen by the rest of the footballing world
Regardless of how we’ve got here, in England Celtic and them are always seen as being roughly equal
Them under Gerrard have always been “SG’s R*****s”. At the weekend the presenter on 5live actually corrected himself to call them that after initially just calling them the Huns.
The team that have been relegated from the championship and have been receiving an unmerited amount of attention recently are “Wayne Rooney’s Derby County”. After being Frank Lampard’s DC
Even us under BR were seen a bit as being his team, although maybe not as much as Gerrard now
Chelsea were Chelsea with Frank Lampard as their head coach/manager
And on a separate matter – any suggestions where I could hire a drop-side truck for a day (Lanarkshire / East Glasgow area)?
Need to pick up some decking boards and sleepers tomorrow for upcoming gardening improvements…
Maybe Eddie Howe is in a bit of a huff and hasnt joined Celtic yet…because he’s NOT been invited to the Beer frenzy/party next Friday ?
So I formally invite you Eddie as of now…bring yer wallet mate…although you wont need it as you will be amongst Celtic supporters, and we will clue you up on anything that you want to know about the Auld ‘TIC over numerous Beers.
Im sure our collective Celtic minds will keep you right about most things Celtic.
Dont be late, in case we drink all the Beer.
HH.
DAVID66…
I hope that you had NO Side Effects after your 2nd Vaccine ?
HH Mate.
QUADROPHENIAN on 13TH MAY 2021 2:46 PM
On what grounds do you think we’re “at the level” of Spurs?
Sons of Erin
Thanks for the useful update on players. I wonder, though, how many if any of them will be eligible under the post-Brexshit visa arrangements? Did I read somewhere that perhaps there is a waiver for this summer hope so?
HH
That invite to the super league must have got lost in the post
BGFC
I do not, under any circumstances, see McKay as part of the football structure. Hope you and the Wee (Big) Yin are good.
HH
Celtic, in terms of fan base and passion are right up there at the top, of that there is no doubt.
We lack financial clout and are playing in the wrong league.
You can understand why some managers would not consider coming to us.
Howe has a golden opportunity to do a Rodgers and move to the next level after us.
If he were to fail at Spurs or Palace then the games up for him.
I can see us being an attractive proposition to him, hope that’s the case..
How about if Howe were to fail at Celtic?
The biggest determining factor in whether a manager comes to us will be his wage. We may not be able to compete with the PL or with the big boys of European football, but still have some financial clout (particularly during the BR years when he gave us a glimpse of the consistently high turnovers that we were capable of).
We have been paying a CEO circa £2.5m (including bonus) in certain years. Save for BR, no recent Celtic manager will have been getting close to that figure.
Sevco paid the Gardner more in the 4th tier than we paid NL during his first stint. That stat cuts both ways.
CELTIC40ME on 13TH MAY 2021 3:12 PM
It’s a huge job for the new boss this year.
How would you determine fail?
Not winning the title back next season?
I would reckon he would need more time…
CELTIC40ME on 13TH MAY 2021 3:12 PM
If Howe were to fail at Celtic, I think he’d be virtually unemployable in the EPL and would probably have to rebuild his reputation at the top end of the Championship – Fulham or Middlesborough for example.
When you consider the rebuild here and the fact he won’t be given time like Slippy was, he’s taking a risk and must really be backing himself if he decides to come to Celtic.
“CELTIC40ME on 13TH MAY 2021 3:12 PM
How about if Howe were to fail at Celtic?”
It’s a possibility. But the probability is smaller than if we hired Jack Ross or a NL level manager.
Also, what constitutes failure?
GEEBEE1978 on 13TH MAY 2021 3:21 PM
Surely winning something with Spurs or keeping Palace in the Premiership are much more unlikely?
This became a Pantomime weeks ago..its went further as SADLY its now a FARCE…IMHO ?
HH
I for one, would give howe next season to start the rebuild. Maybe our supporters wouldn’t….
Friesdorfer – I assume it reverts to the visa or points based system, we’ve signed players from outside the EU based on this system recently (eg. Ismaila Soro).
This Independent article covers it –
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/brexit-january-transfer-window-news-b1780873.html
What’s worrying, and new to me, is the inability for English clubs to sign under 18s from abroad (now including the EU). Which means they’ll more regularly look to pinch Scottish U18 talent. At least it closes our U18 talent to the rest of the EU. I’m looking at you, Borussia Dortmund.
Have we ever had any success from hiring a player who was reluctant to come here?
Yes, Viduka scored a lot of goals, but also caused a lot of disruption and moodiness, when he came after a period of going AWOL
That keeper from Oz? Forgot his name- who signed and then had Mental Health issues and had to be released from his contract?
Hedman? Kharine? Ajeti?
If they are reluctant to come to Celtic, they are unliklely to settle for staying here.
I am happy enough to move on to the next target, so long as it isn’t Petrescu.
ROLLING_STONE on 13TH MAY 2021 3:23 PM
The question wasn’t about our failure but his, and what it would mean for his career
I couldn’t say for sure what’s deemed to be failure, but seeing as our league is seen as being a farmers league by a lot of people in England and Gerrard looks to have gone a whole season unbeaten I’d say the bar is probably quite high
Thoughtful and thought provoking Pablo.
Your logic is, as always, perfectly sound but a couple of your points, in particular, concerned me.
“The dirty little subject” – surely nothing more than standard internal organisation politics?
The “football department” is the engine room.
And the needs of other internal departments are secondary to those of the fans (who fuel Finance, Marketing, Ticketing, the Foundation)
“We know that if a talent is good enough, he is incentivised to keep his options open until the last possible moment. This scenario, I buy”
Fine but ….
We chase good talent because we believe it delivers good outcomes.
The less time good talent has to prepare, the greater the risk to those outcomes.
I’d privately hoped that the nod had been given and work had started on the QT.
If your hypothesis is correct ?
– 5 weeks from likely start of pre-season
– 10 weeks from first CL qualifier
Planning for those dates (including squad decisions) are being made without the most important stakeholder involved?
Hhmm.