If you were lucky enough, like me, to enjoy a long Christmas holiday, I hope you had a good one. I’m sure few of us are delighted to be back at it today but there’s an indisputable mood on the blog for bringing in the New. A fresh start is needed and fortunately we’re at the start of the transfer window.
For Celtic most attention will be directed towards recruiting a striker who is capable of doing the business in the Champions League, not to overlook the important point of doing the business in Champions League qualifiers. 20-year-old Icelandic striker, Holmbert Fridjobsson, finally joins the club this month but although we’ll hopefully see plenty of the player this month he is surely considered ‘one for the future’.
One prolific striker does not solve all of Celtic’s issues, however. The club remains acutely dependent on Kris Commons’ creativity (as well as goal scoring), which will become increasingly less-effective as opponents setup to inhibit him. He needs a foil.
Since the annihilation in Barcelona Celtic have offered greater protection from midfield but with both full backs encouraged to overlap the midfield anchor role, previously occupied by Wanyama, becomes crucially important. It also offers support to the strategy of allowing Commons a free role as an attacking midfielder.
Over the break, Archie MacPherson, Scotland’s greatest ever broadcaster, wrote an article for Celtic Quick News comparing two of Scotland’s greatest ever managers. These debates are, of course, subjective, but the article provides a few objective points for consideration. Archie has a totally unique range to deal with this question and is in no doubt as to who the master was. Look out for the article next week, you’ll enjoy it – no guessing now.
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no problem .. there is a few covers of L.H. Lady posted also
HAIL HAIL
Back to taking it on the chin then
Once again ‘Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves’ played during the huddle at New St Mirren Park.
Auldheid
If memory serves, the blog was at its whimsical, hilarious best during the aftermath of the Mowbray massacre. At times like that, CQNers usually seek recourse to comedy as an outlet for their feelings.
Compare and contrast to the recent past, in which we’ve experienced a sustained period of success, but in a stagnant environment sans competition. Problems of our own making have cropped up like weeds, and the devil has found plenty of work for humourless bloggers.
I look forward with mild curiosity to watching Star Wars 7. Following the death of the evil empire, I bet Han and Leia divorce, C3PO enrolls for a pre-op, and Luke writes angry blog posts, all under the empty, sorrowful gaze of a hologrammed Hayden Christensen.
Right bampots if there was ever a time you want to make a difference regarding same club nonsense then forward this complaint below to ASA.
It was posted on KDS so apologies if posted on here already.
ASA’s recent decision to allow RFC to continue saying “most successful club” despite legally only being in existence since 2012 has quite rightly angered many fans of most Scottish clubs & therefore would ask anyone who feels strongly about this to copy & paste a complaint to ASA’s chief executive(at email address below Press Officers name).
It should only take a minute or so but believe the deadline for complaints is this Tuesday/or 21 days after ruling on ASA website on 18/12/13.
In addition to the email if would be good if those that can,also post a hard copy to ASA 1st class on Monday.
The decision was printed on ASA website at link below but many Scottish fans will believe it contains many inaccuracies
http://www.asa.org.uk/Rulings/Adjudications/2013/12/The-Rangers-Football-Club-Ltd/SHP_ADJ_224406.aspx
Feel free to alter/add your own opinions.
FAO Matt Wilson
Press Officer-ASA
Enquiries@ASA.Org.UK
Could you please pass on this new complaint to:
Guy Parker,
Chief Executive,
Advertising Standards Authority,
Mid City Place,
71 High Holborn,
London,
WC1V 6QT.
New Complaint Against ASA on Grounds of Inaccuracy
This complaint is based on Inaccuracy on the ASA website as of 18/12/2013.
http://www.asa.org.uk/Rulings/Adjudications/2013/12/The-Rangers-Football-Club-Ltd/SHP_ADJ_224406.aspx
I know accuracy is very important to ASA as it’s very ethos/mission is:
“Our mission is to ensure that advertising in all media is legal,decent,honest and truthful,
to the benefit of consumers,business and society.”
CAP Code 1.1 also states “Marketing communications should be legal,decent,honest and truthful.”
http://www.cap.org.uk/Advertising-Codes/Non-Broadcast/CAP-Code/CAP-Code-Item.aspx?q=cap%20code%20new_General%20Sections_01%20Compliance_Rules
Inaccuracy on ASA website as of 18/12/13
A)The overarching premise of ASA’s position is that RFC club & RFC company were separate.
Here are many examples of how club & company were never separate:
-When the club incorporated in 1899 the clubs own Memorandum & Articles specifically
stated club & company were to be considered “synonymous”,ie one & the same
-UEFA’s FFP rules Article 12 state:
Definition of a licence applicant:
“A licence applicant may only be a football club ie a legal entity fully responsible
for a football team participating in national & international competitions…”
See Page 17:
http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/Tech/uefaorg/General/01/80/54/10/1805410_DOWNLOAD.pdf
UEFA’s postion is club must be a legal entity,ie club/company one & the same
-Sir Hayden Phillips also made the point “there was also the risk of a substantial flaw of
adjudication in the distinction that had been made between ‘club’ and ‘company'”
http://www.thedrum.com/news/2013/08/06/independent-reviewer-reopening-case-against-rangers-fc-most-successful-football-club
– the Upper Tax Tribunal(HMRC v RFCPLC) document from July 2013 by Judge Colin Bishopp said with regard
to the status of RFC point 27 is very interesting where Judge Bishopp asserts a modern
pro football club is a “commercial enterprise” & “has no special status”.
Point 27 can be found here:
http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKUT/TCC/2013/B6.pdf
-BBC Scotland is clearly of the opinion club & company are one:
“A football club,once incorporated,is indistinguishable in Scots law from its corporate
identity.
If the club was separate it would need its own constitution,committee members,trustees,etc.
Rangers Football Club does not have that because it is incorporated.”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-22951447
B)
With regard to the Inaccuracies on ASA website as at 18/12/13:
-RFC’s administrators(Duff & Phelps) clearly state in their CVA Proposal Report of
29/5/2012 that under liquidation the “club ceases to trade”.
This would clearly be at odds to whats printed in ASA’s assessment/ruling.
Page 38 http://scotslawthoughts.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/rangers-cva-proposal.pdf
“3. The sale consideration under the New Company scenario has not been apportioned.
Under the Liquidation scenario, the club ceases to trade and therefore the player
contracts terminate and registrations revert to the SFA and therefore may
have no value. There is assumed to be no residual value in any Intellectual
Property or Goodwill as the club has ceased to trade”.
-Here’s RFCPLC(In Liquidation) Administrators(Duff & Phelps) clearly stating that
without a CVA there would be “no trading history” in their Interim Creditors Report
of 10/7/2012.
Page 16 of http://scotslawthoughts.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/rangers-fc-plc-interim-report-by-duff-phelps-10-july.pdf
“6.1 As set out in the Proposals,a CVA would have enabled the corporate entity
formed in 1899 in which the business and assets of the Club vest,to continue to
trade.This may have enabled the Club to continue to participate in European
football as a UEFA requirement is to demonstrate 3 years of trading history.
If the business and assets of the Club were transferred to a new corporate
entity then there would be no trading history and therefore a probable UEFA
prohibition on entering into European competition”
It is not possible for a company to trade on history which simply has been concluded
when that company went into liquidation.
No trading history means exactly that,no documentation to prove any history in
which to trade or advertise from.No accounts to refer or prove the history.It also
states above the entity formed in 1899 does not continue after the failure of the CVA.
No trading history means exactly that, no history.
-There are some inaccuracies concerning the ECA statement which appears on the ASA
website:
-the point about keeping the same registration number with the SFA
would appear to be wrong.SFA have confirmed club memberships do not
carry registration numbers.
-With regard to ECA “considering” RFC is same club it’s not the same as saying
legally its the same club.As regards their so called continuing membership that
would seem to be wrong.As a result of liquidation the new entity had to re-apply
for membership & consequently were awarded a downgraded membership(associate
member with no voting rights),so to say they had a continuous ECA membership is wrong.
It says here the “new entity had to re-apply for membership with ECA”
http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/rangers/205975-european-clubs-body-downgrades-rangers-status-but-recognises-history/
-it also says that the club has the “same club-coefficient ranking”.
How is it possible for ECA to verify this as it would ultimately be an
UEFA decision.If & when the new entity qualifies for European qualification
it would be unlikely the new entity would carry the same club co-efficient.
UEFA’s FFP Article 50 states:
P33 of pdf 2012 UEFA FFP http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/Tech/uefaorg/General/01/80/54/10/1805410_DOWNLOAD.pdf
“No overdue payables towards employees and social/tax authorities”
Don’t think UEFA can ever claim new RFC is exact same as old club as they could never issue a
Euro licence to clubs which have outstanding social taxes & especially as old RFC will have
perpetual outstanding taxes which will never be repaid due to liquidation.So its very difficult to
see how any future co-efficient points could ever be given to a “continuation of old RFC” as it will in theory
always have outstanding tax debts.
Do you have documentary evidence from either ECA/UEFA that current RFC will continue with the exact
same coefficient when it returns to qualifying for European football?
-The SPL Commission decison/view was made outside the confines of a court-room & in general a
country’s rule of law(especially Insolvency & Liquidation law) takes precedence over football
rules/opinions.The Commissions’ “views” are only opinions,and not legally binding ones.
-with regard to the SFA’s view it is very difficult to see from ASA’s assessment/ruling where they confirm
continuation of exact same club.The words “varied & sometimes” are hardly clear confirmation of
RFC being the same club.In fact the SFA have never came out with an unequivocal statement confirming
continuation of the same club.
In fact had they been the same club,they would still be in SPL,would have qualified for Europe
for 2012-13,& the players would have been unable to walk away from their contracts.
Also with regard to SFA’s transfer of membership this wasn’t a seamless transfer.The asset sale took place on 14/6/12 but
SFA membership wasn’t transferred until 3/8/12,by which time the new club under the name Sevco Scotland Ltd(name
change to TRFCL never took place until 31/7/12) had played a game on 29/7/12 with a condtional SFA membership.
Not a clear cut membership transfer the new club would have you believe & shows a clear break in continuity.
http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish_fa_news.cfm?page=1961&newsID=10252
-the old club used the law (ie Administration then Liquidation) to walk away from massive debts,including
substantial debts to HMRC,leaving a trail of creditors,worthless shares & debenture-holders,so to now
claim that the law doesn’t apply to the club & it continues on regardless is totally wrong &
has no legal basis.
Most people just want acknowledgement of the truth the old club was liquidated.For the reasons shown above
the club was never separate from the company.
C)With regard to ASA’s previous rulings against liquidated companies which can be found here:
http://www.cap.org.uk/Advice-Training-on-the-rules/Advice-Online-Database/Types-of-claims-Established-since.aspx
…it is very surprising ASA has decided to make an exception for TRFCL.
Normally it would seem ASA would take a very strong but consistent stance on rulings against
companies & liquidation.
Taken in conjunction with ASA’s CAP/BCAP codes it is very surprising therefore that ASA has failed to act in a similar manner with TRFCL despite:
-the new company not taking on all debts/liabilities of old company
-the new company not being able to demonstrate an uninterrupted & stable trading history.
Summary
If we accept the ECA and the independent SPL Commission view,are we to believe that an entity
which has no legal existence,no legal definition or documentation and that entity is unrecognisable in a
court of law and that entity has no legal accountability,with no trading history is allowed to
claim existence in defiance of the Insolvency Act,the Companies Act and standard accounting
procedures?
I would ask you Mr Parker,as Chief Executive of ASA to reassess the information on the ASA website
as of 18/12/13 as I would say there are inaccuracies contained therein..
I would not wish the good name of ASA to be tarnished or valuable work undermined as the very ethos of ASA
is “legal,decent,honest & trustworthy”
I would be most grateful for your comments:
-on Inaccuracy on ASA website
-why ASA decided not to fully adhere to ASA codes & not follow previous ASA rulings on liquidated
companies
Yours sincerely,
Name etc.
HT
You must know all the words by now…. ya hun ;)
Good evening all
The ole ipad will need to start getting charged again. Hardly used since CQN stopped paying the bills. :)) How are you all this howling night, well I hope. Great to have you back Paul. :)
Weefra HH supporting Wee Oscar.
TBJ
Tut tut. :)))
Weefra HH supporting Wee Oscar.
Can I Have Raspberry On That Champions League Ice Cream
Can you email me and I will sort? Email address is david@CQNMagazine.com
Thank the cybergods CQN is back …..now if someone could just (Re)boot Alex tommo …..in his lazy journo haw maws id feel better
TBJ
HT looks like a big Cher fan
Are we now called The CQN
HH
can i have raspberry on that champions league ice cream
18:52 on 6 January, 2014
WInningCaptains
Can you resend me my bill for CQTEN ?
Many thanks HH
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Winning a Captains, can you send Can I have Raspberry mine too, please.
Many many thanks:-)))
hamiltontim is praying for oscar @ 19:16 on 6 January, 2014
I’ll be happy if they get the chance to play sevco next season. It’s what they want and deserve.
Apologies to neganon2 and others on here who must be hurting after yesterday’s thrashing.
Doc 17:01
I’ll be posting on here with any result.
Like others I sent the copy from CQN facebook page, and hoping for other ideas on their page
Weefra
Hes big enough. .. and ugly enough .. to fight his own korma :)
Sftb
Trying not to even imagine HT in that gear cher wears :(
Gerry S, I’ll have a look on the FB page.
The rumour mill is grinding away tonight, trouble looms for Sevco!
Feet up and watching it unfold.
TBJ
Nae argument there, although I’ve met him in person. Lol
HT
No offence. :)
Weefra HH supporting Wee Oscar.
The Tommo blog yesterday was simply shocking. As other have said the online abuse posted on the Huddleboard were out of order.
Going on from that the rest of Alec Thomson’s blog was shockingly inaccurate and badly researched. Yes there have been some unsavoury incidents involving damage to stadia and some drunken behaviour from fans at a couple of games, Dens and Brentford(I wasn’t at either game but got 1st hand reportd from friends that were) spring to mind.
My concern though is how these incidents have been seized upon by certain Celtic minded bloggers and then blown out of all proportion by these individuals, Thomson’s blog was obviously influenced by these individuals as we know he has a relationship with them. It disappoints me that they don’t appear to understand that their own blogs are influencing those supporters that don’t actually go to games and rely on these bloggers for their information.
While we can never justify the idiots who make disgusting comments on forums, I think the blogger in question has to be taken to task for her styll on twitter, which is very confrontational and she has been called a troll on several occasions lately.
Tonight she has compared herself to Neil Lennon and the abuse he suffered. I just don’t know where to start with that one.
TBJ
That should read, I’ve never met him in person. Oops :)
Weefra HH supporting Wee Oscar.
sfa have confirmed they’re stripping sevco of their dignity tomorrow
Weefra
Your only telling the truth but … be careful.. hes punching ( way above his weight :)
jackie mac
19:44 on
6 January, 2014
sfa have confirmed they’re stripping sevco of their dignity tomorrow
that ship sailed years ago ;-)
TBJ
I’m way too handsome to be a Hun :-)
WeeFra
I’d rather be a hen than a Hun!!
SFTB
I’ll have you know I have rather eclectic musical tastes.
They may not extend to Cher but I have seen Tina Turner and Daniel O’Donnell though not on the same bill!!
HT
Im only trying to make you feel at home again after the wee sabbatical :).
Benny b
There’s a few before St Mirren that I’d prefer were playing Sevco next season!!
jackiemac @19:44
Stripping Sevco of their dignity is like stripping the Emperor of his clothes.
HT
Theres always a home here for you. :))
Weefra HH supporting Wee Oscar.
Auldheid
An on form Mulgrew makes a difference
I agree we have missed him. Thought he wasn’t quite fully fit against Thistle, but definitely back to his best on Sunday.
Apparantly, sevco are complaining about hard tackles…….someone should brief them on a certain club, (deed noo)’ …. on how they played their fitbaw……they played like wild animals after a carcass, so sevco should thank their lucky stars THAT LOT are out of the way…..
Thank god cqn is back!
Been on my sickbed since saturday and iv missed the company
HH
hamiltontim is praying for oscar
19:55 on 6 January, 2014
sevco will be liquidated before next season
Evening….
Thought I’d been bombed out the last few days, and I never say anything controversial.
Are the Easdales capable of such skulduggery? Ah mean there self made men..
Ayrshire is Green and White
HH
bhoylo83
20:02 on 6 January, 2014
Hope you’re feeling better….
67heaven
Thanks bud gettin there
HH
Welcome back CQN, I have had to watch tv programmes that I have not seen for years,
Emmerdale Farm (what happened to the Farm ,Seth and Mr Wilks?
Coronation Street what happened to Ena Sharples, Martha Longmuir, Minny Caldwell and Bobby the Cat?
Eastenders What has happened to Dirty Den ,Angie and Roly the dog?
Please CQN do not put me through such horiffic times again.
I see we’re in the throes of another series of rumours about bad news about to befall sevco. We’ve heard this so many times before and as usual, when nothing happens, it will be back to blaming Peter Lawwell. Excuse me if I don’t get too excited about these stories from the blogosphere.
Thank Christ your back