The prospect of watching the world’s greatest players on home soil at the 2030 World Cup, with the announcement of a joint bid by British and Irish FAs, is tempered by the realisation that it would provide flag waving political types of various colours more opportunities to distract attention from their day jobs.
The English FA bid for the 2018 tournament but the UK government was insufficiently corrupt at the time to garner enough support from the Fifa executive. A great deal of work has since gone into upgrading politicians corruption status across the UK, so the Scottish, English, Welsh, Irish and N. Irish FAs will be hopeful their governments can cut it with the best Banana Republics out there.
Perhaps harsh but not without foundation.
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I remember a tale about Paul Lambert on here back in the day.
His dad ran a hun bus out of Paisley and wasn’t happy at PLs return to Scotland to play for “them”.
The story went that his dad had framed photos on the wall of Paul with the Scottish Cup in both St Mirren and Motherwell colours.
However, when Celtic won the LC in 1998 – nothing.
Same again when Celtic won the League at the end of that season.
Fast forward to 2001 and Celtic, with Paul as captain, win the Treble. Paul turns up at the house to see a large picture of Paul in the hoops wearing the armband and proudly displaying all 3 trophies!
It brought a lump to my throat at the time.
No idea if its actually true or not though!
Anyone?
D.O.F at Newcastle ole Joe Kinnear had shrewdly picked out winger Shane Ferguson, who was already a Newcastle player and on loan at St Andrew’s.
RIP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC3odAzE1co&fbclid=IwAR1QPra97ufvxF-G6Q8R5cTpZHp1T1FVcohfr32OzrywbNsukmcjIVtaCl0&ab_channel=janga40
WEEBOBBYCOLLINS on 2ND MARCH 2021 12:45 PM
Just checked…Billy Wright didn’t play in that game v Celtic. Memory going downhill fast…needs a jump-start from Tontine Tim…
*correct, I remember that night well, walking up Kerrydale Street with my da and him raving about our new centre, Ian Lochhead, a player seemingly our reserve coach chased after when he was with Drumchapel Amateurs, unfortunately another starlet that never made it.
At the time I, like all my schoolmates, was a Frank Haffey fan, the Jungle had christened him Crazy Horse although my da labelled him an eejit, he much preferred the goalie that played that night, John Fallon.
Although Billy Wright didnae play that night Wolves were still a formidable side having won the League 2 out of the past 3 seasons and the FA Cup later on that season.
Their goalie big Malcolm Finlayson fae Bonhill was almost a Celtic player, while playing for Renfrew Juniors he turned out for us in an emergency at a reserve game, seemingly he did that well we offered him signing on papers, however, it seems he had promised Millwall he would sign for them and didnae want tae let them down.
He was a legend at the Den before signing for Wolves where on retirement he joined the board.
Like Ronnie Simpson he was one of those unsung players never selected for the national side. As we know the Faither only won his caps while with us.
Whether we adopt a DOF model or not, you still need to employ the right people. Still need to replace them if they leave or are inept. I don’t understand why it seems to be the common perception that we are going for a DOF.
Pontins? Never been but I recall going to Butlins at Mosney in Ireland, when I was a young boy. I’m sure, alongside the red coats, they had green coats (might have been security).
ive been to a few pontins 35 – 40 years ago
prestatyn, southport, morecamb from what i remember
used to love it
and my name is on the list!
I worked one time with Lambers dad, I am sure he was a plumber to trade, maybe even his own business, but he worked in the big shed warehouse where b&q stands at the airport bridge for a while.
I told him I had played football against Paul when he was a kid.
He said “everybody says that”
He wasnt all bad even as a Linwood Rangers diehard, the worst I knew was the bus convenor for Kinning Park RSC (in Liquidation).
So anyways, I did play against him, Paul was about 13, but playing for Linwood Rangers under 16s, absolute stand out as a player, and I played for Port High YC, the thing being there was maybe only 4 out of 20 boys that were non catholic, so it was well known we were a timmy side.
I dont recall him being in the bitter camp, but if LR had the same policy signing as the other Rangers boys teams, then maybe.
We won by the way.
ps, I dont think Paul won a cup with Motherwell, he was still at Saint Mirren then, he was there for a good number of seasons, sure he was in the team at 17 when they won their cup.
Has any player ever won the cup with 3 different teams ?
any manager ever done it with 3 different teams ?
Who was the Hibs/Hearts/Dundee player who won 3 championships ?
LASSIEBEATTIE on 2ND MARCH 2021 12:54 AM
Tontine 9.16pm – great story. Never knew that. We lived in the houses right above the railway line where the trains came out the Tunnel at Clerkhill, as my dad called it. You could set your watch by the 2 electric trains per hour. When the diesel trains came down from the West Highland Line you could feel the vibration right through the cliff! Good memories.
*take it you lived in Westcliff. The only pupils who called it Notre Dame were those who travelled down fae Clydebank, all the Dumbartonians, Vale which includes the Renton and Helensburgh pupils referred tae it as Clerkhill.
My mother and her siblings went there tae as a wee lassie as did hauf the vale.
Sadly the old school and convent are gone. There is a new St Michael’s school next to the chapel (where big St Pats used to be) and the Carmelites have moved into the old Notre Dame/Craigend House at the top of the Avenue.
*Mrs TT was born up Brucehill but grew up in Castlehill so went tae Clerkhill all her schooldays, although I’m a jeelyeater I know plenty about Clerkhill/Craigend etc.
Her da had a friend who was a caretaker there and let her and her sisters take a wee tour of the place before it was demolished.
RON BACARDI on 2ND MARCH 2021 9:06 AM
Tontine Tim You mentioned Havoc. I remember going to the ‘beach’ there for on occasional days out from Clydebank. Would have been in late 50’s or very early 60’s. Highlight was Bruce’s cave.
*Havoc was a popular swimming spot for that part of Dumbarton which before the bridge at Dalreoch was built was part of the Parish of Cardross just like the Renton.
My da grew up in Silverton so more chance he went down tae the Castle tae swim.
BTW it’s Wallace’s cave, naebody and I mean naebody I knew ever went intae it, although when you’re on the train and exit the tunnel there’s an opening on the wall which could be the end of it..
67 European Cup Winners on 2nd March 2021 5:50 pm
SCULLYBHOY on 2ND MARCH 2021 5:07 PM
I will take that – thank you
67ECW
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Hail Hail
https://twitter.com/Caoimhin1983/status/1366782176377847808
In 1976 Ian St John was manager of Portsmouth. They were in dire financial straits so their manager, one Ian St John, asked Celtic to help by playing in a fund raising friendly. There was about 10,000 Celtic fans that night. I was there and saw the young Tommy Burns.
GEBEE 1978
“A DoF shouldn’t be unsackable. The wrong signings and managerial appointments would see him lose his job.
It works for almost every big club in Europe now. We need to move with the times to make up for what we’ve already lost.”
So- apart from aping the big clubs- what does it give us?
We just need to sack 2 people instead of 1 after failure, it seems.
celtic won 6-1, I had forgotten all about that Pompey friendly
http://image.wikifoundry.com/image/1/DHMOF3ujo6e5HzrGYsN-fA859396/GW578H563/
retro Tommy Gemmel
what a picture.
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Highland__Paddy
@Highland__paddy
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Charlie Tully heads the ball across goal to Willie Fernie (not in picture) to score the opening goal in a 3-1 victory over Raith Rovers in 1958 Four leaf clover
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a question from me – looking at the angles of the picture , was the old main stand higher / bigger than the new stand ir replaced ?
and was the enclosure a similar capacity as the jungle os smaller ?
and was the new front stand on the same split line as the enlcouse was to the rear ?
if that makes sense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k3FwSgNM9U
Memories of Ian St John
SFTB
Director of football, if recruited and working properly, could allow:
1. The CEO to focus on running the wider business, thus avoiding unhelpful meddling by an unqualified amateur
2. Create a clearly defined ‘Celtic way’ that mitigates the risk of upheaval when a coach/manager leaves. Like when BR did, leaving behind little more than John Kennedy and a Betamax.
HH jg
PS no one is un-sackable. Now not even the Celtic CEO it seems. Rightly so.
In a parallel universe, back in 94, I imagined that wee fergus took the share money and bought these guys, how different the world would have been.
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“Shanks was the only other manager to go to Lisbon for the European Cup final and when Celtic won, he walked up to Jock in the dressing room. He told him ‘John, you’re immortal now.’ For me, that was one of the greatest lines ever spoken in football.”
Ian St John
SFTB
I’m not in favour of a DOF.
I was just suggesting MON , if that is a route we are going down.
TT
PL’s da — his thoughts on football tribalism / might have been mentioned earlier.
When asked how he felt — as a ST holder in Govan — about his son playing for us.
He replied that as he slept with a CFC fan every night — who his son played for was not a big issue.
I think when PL signed for us he started to go to our games with a BiL / family member.
No issues seemingly.
Och man, some pictures could make you greet.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EvdZFRMWYAQ6xXo?format=jpg&name=medium
No railing, no safety, how he still had the stamina to get up there and lift that cup, what a man.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EvfrL0OXcAsR7J0?format=jpg&name=900×900
St Stivs
Possibly Gordon Smith of Hibs famous five fame?
Celtic Park last night – was a truelly stunning skyline doon here as well, what an image
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GARYGILLESPIESHAMSTRING on 2ND MARCH 2021 7:36 PM
St Stivs
Possibly Gordon Smith of Hibs famous five fame?
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Pick a prize from the middle shelf. wd
I would say the enclosure was smaller capacity than the jungle.
My fading memory is that the enclosure was converted to the front stand but a bit wider maybe.
The “new” back stand was basically the old one with a different type of roof. The turnstiles for the front stand were just the old enclosure ones and the back stand access was as it always was.
The facade of the building was unchanged from my first game in 1965 to the centenary season and the addition of the pyramid on the front.
There used to be a turnstile to transfer from the Celtic end to the enclosure and you could also pay for a transfer from enclosure to stand.
You could enter from the Janefield st gates and get into the enclosure without having to walk round the outside of the ground if you were coming in from the shettleston end of the gallowgate.
Saint Stivs @ 7.05…zat no Danny Kaye?
Not-Jacinda is toast.
Needs to resign — at least three actions cross the threshold.
Broke the ministerial code.
Went against lawyers advice for 6 months.
Name of one of the original complainants passed on to others.
Toast.
w b c @12:29
remember that night well, i was nightshift in stephen’s shipyard linthouse
the score came just after clocking in, the night flew in after that
RIP Ian St John
Seems that I am banned from Pontins. Thank f*ck.
TIMHORTON
Cheers. London in the swinging 60’s eh.
Went back down for another 3 year stint in 67. This time staying at the top of Holloway Road & cutting trees on Hampstead Heath. Before I left Scotland I saw all the home games in the run to Lisbon. Not the final sadly.
Gerry123…’twas a brilliant display from a very fine team.
BAMBOO
Had a couple trips up to see Celtic, the 67 cup final and games against Dundee u and Dundee.
Dundee u game was the first game we lost….thought my dad was gonna banjo me,called me all the Jonas under the sun.
Euro. final watched on tv in London
Saint Stivs on 2nd March 2021 7:35 pm
No railing, no safety, how he still had the stamina to get up there and lift that cup, what a man.
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You are amazing – thank you for all the fabulous photos.
HH
The Pontins camp in Blackpool was previously the Squire’s Gate army training camp. When my dad was called up in1944 , he was sent there to do his basic training.
It was rumoured that it was a more enjoyable place for troops doing basic training than it was for holidaymakers when it was turned into a Pontins holiday camp.
Tontine Tim…I remember standing in the hun end with my dad at the Wolves game. Everyone was oooh, aaahing at the lights, all super impressed with how bright they were, when suddenly, just before the teams came out, someone flicked a switch and they became twice as bright. There was an audible intake of breath from all around. Big Pete’s disco lights dimmed in comparison…
For weeks beforehand, from the top of my street, we would watch them being tested. They were truly amazing for that time. I also remember attending a game v the jambos when a hailstorm blew out quite a few of the bulbs. They were the size of a football…def not for the hoose…