Karagandy manager on Celtic and his own players

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Shakhtar Karagandy Russian manager, Viktor Kumykov, gave an interview after their elimination of the Albanian champions in the last Champions League qualifier.  He talked about his team, which, unlike some in former Soviet countries, does not have an oligarch benefactor or rich sponsor.

Kumykov thought four of his potential opponents were of equal standing, although he clearly respects Celtic’s recent achievements in the Champions League.

He said, “Getting through to the play offs round is historical achievement for the club and for Kazakh football. We hope this is for the start and we would play in Europe regularly. Even if we don’t go to the Champions League, we will play in UEFA Europa League, which means we will be in the elite of the European football.

“We have made it to the group stage of one of the European competitions, which was our main target. It does not mean we can rest now and say we will not fight for more, but our main target is Cup of Kazakhstan. We have never won it before.

“From a football perspective, I think it might be better for us to be in the Europa League than the Champions League. If we go through to the Champions League we will play against much better teams, where we can meet giant clubs. For this we would need to buy few players to strengthen the team. We short of depth and players I have at the moment would not cope with big competitions. I have no experienced players.

“It’s difficult to say who against I want to play. All five teams are better than us. Celtic is different story, they are apart from the others. That team played in the Champions League last season and got through to the knock out round. They beat Barcelona. They beat Spartak Moscow away and at home.

“The Other four are all similar class one to each other but they are all stronger than us. Each of them play at a higher level. The team God gives us will be the team we will play against. It makes no sense to say who we want.”
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  1. 67Heaven … I am Neil Lennon..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors

     

    11:02 on

     

    10 August, 2013

     

    dan

     

     

    10:32 on 10 August, 2013

     

     

    NFL…..

     

     

     

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    67 Heaven

     

     

    Sorry, in my opinion no. Although the way he handled the disgusting off fields attacks by fans of other clubs and the press a couple of years ago are to be applauded, many would have walked away, he showed great resolve.

     

     

    From a football perspective he is miles away from big Jock. Granted he is only at the beginning of his career and as any manager learning their trade he has made mistakes. I think Lenny’s greatest achievement by far is reaching the last 16 of the champions league, a tremendous feat achieved with a very young and inexperienced team. Do I think Lenny will go on to become a great? Not I don’t. I think he lacks tactical awareness at times and some of this substitutions still baffle me. I might be totally wrong, who can tell, but I don’t see Lenny progressing to be a better manager.

     

     

    Dan

  2. Guess this is the first time Celtic have been in this part of the vaunted Porto/Benfica cycle of player recruitment and resale.

     

     

    Remember last year at CL group draw there was talk of it being a ‘good time’ to draw Benfica due to recent departures.

     

     

    They did okay after getting dumped out of the CL by someone or other.

  3. No Bobby

     

     

    “Derk was undeniably a squad player at Ajax”

     

     

    That ‘fact’ would worry me if Ajax were notorious for producing gash players.

     

     

     

    You have seen as much as me of derk in the hoops but you are the first person I’ve heard of who thinks he’s only there to make up the numbers.

  4. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    bamboo

     

    10:11 on

     

    10 August, 2013

     

    Sunny morning in Dublin.

     

    Ferry over to Belfast was mobbed with horribles presumably over for some orange waddle.

     

     

    “Orange waddle.”

     

     

    Cracker.:-)

  5. No Bobby Does It Petta

     

    11:13 on 10 August, 2013

     

     

    From what I saw last week he will be first pick when fit. The when fit bit may be the problem right enough.

     

    VVD will be first pick, would have been with Wilson had he not been sold but will be along with someone, again once he is fit.

     

    Our priority needs to be a Hooper replacement and a midfielder.

  6. .

     

     

    The Rangers International Bears..Anyone..?

     

     

    Hull City Tigers rebrand: Smart marketing or a step too far?

     

     

    The controversial move to rebrand Hull City AFC the Hull City Tigers or plain Hull Tigers, has divided opinion with most football fans opposing the move. The Allam family who own the club believe it is a smart and necessary marketing strategy.

     

     

    What’s in a name? Well, everything, actually. One hundred and nine years and all that goes with it.

     

    Hull City Association Football Club was formed on June 28, 1904, to begin its journey into the hearts and minds of a region.

     

    Its owners, managers, players, homes and badges may all have changed but that famous name has been sacrosanct. Until now.

     

    An intent to rebrand the club as Hull City Tigers, or more dramatically still just plain old Hull Tigers, has the Allam family toying with over a century of tradition to hunt speculative commercial gain.

     

    The angry reaction was as certain as the sun setting over West Park. Supporters are unwilling to accept a change that none have asked for.

     

    What hurts them most is the lack of consideration.

     

    Few would dare doubt the continued generosity of City’s owners during two-and-a-half-

     

    year stewardship, but that should never be rewarded with an autonomous rule.

     

    If, as they accepted, it remains the supporters’ club, surely their views are the ones that matter?

     

    Accusations of stealth re-branding were dismissed on more than one occasion this summer so to be presented with a new name eight days before another Premier League adventure has the feel of a bad dream.

     

    The Allam family, father Assem and son Ehab, were prepared for the backlash and perhaps steeled by a previous victory in the face of strong criticism.

     

    It is only 14 months since City fans raged the sacking of former favourites Nick Barmby and Adam Pearson, yet there was no-one grumbling when Steve Bruce delivered promotion on May 4.

     

    Changing a name, however, is incomparable to the shuffling of staff. We all expect the latter but a football fan clings to its identity. Without that, what’s left in a sport already drifting away from the ordinary man?

     

     

    Branding is all about creating and harnessing positive emotions, and branding any organisation which represents a place can be a particularly emotive issue.

     

    Good brands engage core stakeholders, building on heritage and existing brand assets to deliver a positive mental image.

     

    A good place brand – and a football club is essentially a place brand – also tells a story. It is rooted in the community from which it has evolved.

     

    Hull City AFC is a strong brand with a proud heritage – it speaks of the struggle to establish Association Football in Hull in the early years of the 20th century. at a time when Hull and much of Yorkshire was dominated by the Northern Union.

     

    The Tigers is also a strong brand – a marketing manager’s dream. What better identity to symbolise the independence, fighting spirit and pride of the club and the place it represents? as well as the struggle for survival that both have endured over the years.

     

    The club is now an international animal, however, it is facing the classic international marketing dilemma of thinking global but acting local.

     

    How does it appeal to people who have no idea where Hull is or know its history?

     

    How does it reconcile its ambition to appeal to a new audience in different parts of the world with different cultures with its desire to remain part of the community it represents?

     

    It’s a tricky proposition, but any good brand development should engage stakeholders at an early stage, allowing them to comment on and inform the brand development.

     

    This way, they can ensure they keep their core audience while developing new markets.

     

     

     

    Summa

  7. Dan

     

     

    … Brilliant link – nice one mate.

     

    NFL is still finding is way, with the right support, he might just surprise you ?

  8. No Bobby does it Petta,

     

     

    Some rudimentary research shows that Derk featured in all of Ajax’s CL matches last season (started 5 and one as a sub) and scored against Madrid.

     

     

    Does that sound like a squad player to you?

     

     

    Still, never let the truth get in the way and all that..

  9. TBB

     

     

    I think he struggles with the English language from time to time

     

     

    He may of course just be stupid ….

  10. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    blantyretim

     

    11:25 on

     

    10 August, 2013

     

     

    Nice one.

     

    Cannae find a decent comeback.:-(

     

    Do the hucklebuck!

  11. johnniem

     

    11:33 on

     

    10 August, 2013

     

    Dan

     

     

    … Brilliant link – nice one mate.

     

    NFL is still finding is way, with the right support, he might just surprise you ?

     

     

     

     

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    Your very welcome mate. I sincerely hope he proves me wrong, time will tell.

     

     

    Dan

  12. No Bobby Does It Petta

     

     

     

    11:13 on 10 August, 2013

     

     

     

    Kayal

     

     

    Derk was undeniably a squad player at Ajax.

     

     

    From what I saw last week,and granted it’s not much game time, he will be another expensive squad player for us.

     

     

    HH

     

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    Hi NBDIT

     

     

    serious question: what is your definition of ‘squad player’?

     

     

    cheers

  13. 67Heaven … I am Neil Lennon..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors

     

    11:17 on 10 August, 2013

     

    summa of sammi….

     

    10:47 on 10 August, 2013

     

     

    “Maybe it’s just me, but I have always had the distict impression that the BBC / SFA etc have been ‘protecting’ sevco,”

     

     

    BBC? Mark Daley? por cierto

  14. No Bobby Does It Petta

     

     

     

    11:13 on 10 August, 2013

     

     

     

    Kayal

     

     

    Derk was undeniably a squad player at Ajax.

     

     

    From what I saw last week,and granted it’s not much game time, he will be another expensive squad player for us.

     

     

    HH

     

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

     

     

    Hi NBDIP

     

     

    serious question: what is your definition of ‘squad player’?

     

     

    cheers

  15. Jabba speaking about BBC.

     

    “They have paid to be here but they won’t be getting in. They can complain to the SPFL and it’ll be up to them if they want to sanction theclub but hopefully it won’t come to that.”

     

     

    He then states “My job isn’t just about PR.”

     

     

    Thank goodness, were is the positive PR in banning a broadcaster?

     

     

    Stupid zombies…

  16. Squad player …someone in the squad … Yes??

     

     

    If , squad player ….someone is in squad but not first choice …..two Dutch bhoys …no chance ….,certainly not bought as such …may finish up as such if they’re pants

  17. SkyBet doing a promotion bet a fiver on a Saturday you get a free fiver bet in your account on a Monday

     

    BetresponsiblyCsc

  18. We need a striker…..Luis Suarez want’s CL

     

    fitba…….a loan deal tae January…..if Liverpool

     

    are tae believed he’ll be playing reserve fitba,

     

    so it makes sense to loan him oot rather than

     

    sell him tae a rival.

     

     

     

    poorsentecestrucktureCSC.

  19. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on

    dan

     

     

    11:18 on 10 August, 2013

     

     

    I’m afraid you could not be MORE wrong ……. Has there EVER been a young / inexperienced manager who has taken his team to the heights NEIL has taken his young inexperienced team to.? ….. It is called LEADERSHIP QUALITIES…….sorry, I didn’t mention BIG JOCK in my response to you …… I was 17 when we won the EC under BIG JOCK…… I was sopken to by the Police that night for over-celebrating, and was ‘removed’ from being School Captain for hanging a Tricolour in the prefects’ room the next day (LOL)

     

     

    NEIL has made me as happy as BIG JOCK did then ….and, for the record, BIG JOCK had more to overcome in those days….the anti – all things Celtic campaign was undisguised then……both could have ‘walked away’, but didn’t ….. It’s called CHARACTER……

     

     

    BRING BACK THE GB……SLIGHTLY WATERED DOWN (LOL)

  20. What’s this nonsense that Van Dijk and Boeriggter will be “squad” players?

     

     

    First choice definitely when fit. Van Dijk unlucky to break a bone in his foot and Boeriggter who had NO injury issues last season also unlucky to go over on his ankle.

     

     

    His first twenty minutes were excellent, could have scored three.

     

     

    Give the bhoys a chance for goodness sake. Game on live on BT Sports tonight.

     

     

    Hail Hail!

     

     

    RobinBhoy

  21. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on

    valentinesday

     

     

    11:52 on 10 August, 2013

     

     

    …and, he’ll get his CL ….LOL ….wouldn’t have him anywhere near CP….. We are not oldco (diouf)

  22. Good article by Glen Gibbons it’s a bit like here’s what Walter Legned did whilst he was elevated to Legned supreme printed below,

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  23. 67Heaven … I am Neil Lennon..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors

     

    12:03 on

     

    10 August, 2013

     

    valentinesday

     

     

    11:52 on 10 August, 2013

     

     

    …and, he’ll get his CL ….LOL ….wouldn’t have him anywhere near CP….. We are not oldco (diouf)

     

     

     

    Bigger rogue’s than Luis hiv wore the hoop’s…..and you

     

    know it bhoy……..hehehe!!!

  24. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on

    Always remember that our Board strategy needs to cater for the inevitable demise of sevco, and the resultant impact on Sky etc revenues…….. We don’t need them, but we need maximise our security in this minor league….