Yes, I know, you could have put money on Bobby Madden turning in a performance like that, no doubt someone did. Still, Celtic teams for generations have had to overcome odds determined by the men in black, even without the unpunished brutality on show, Celtic were second best.
Newco applied a soft press, allowing our central defenders time on the ball but tightly competing for space in the middle of the park. McGregor, Hatate and Rogic were swamped in the middle of the park, and when the ball reached either Taylor or Juranovic, they were seldom presented with even one good forward option.
As a consequence, Celtic repeatedly lost possession inside their own half, inviting wave after wave of attack. Change was necessary and when it arrived 10 minutes after halftime. Kyogo and Matt O’Riley replaced Liel Abada and Tom Rogic, Celtic enjoyed their best spell of the match for the next 20 minutes.
O’Riley in particular caused Newco problems and within 10 minutes Greg Taylor gave Celtic the lead. Cameron Carter-Vickers soon has a great chance to double the advantage but hit the crossbar with a shot in front of goal.
Newco responded on 75 minutes by replacing Aribo and Jack with Davis and Arfield. The latter levelled the score three minutes later and Newco were never again under sustained pressure. The winning goal in extra time was narrowly offside.
Those of us in the stadium were unaware of this, so left the ground with a sense that Celtic failed to match their opponents tactically, while bizarrely lacking energy against a team who had played extra time three days earlier.
Two weeks ago Celtic were packed the midfield tighter at Ibrox and were able to find options when passing out of defence. When we took the game to Newco the lack of precision and coordinated movement neutered what had previously worked well.
Credit where due to van Bronkhurst. He outmanoeuvred a good coach yesterday. Nothing was done to change an ineffective midfield until 55 minutes and there was no response after Newco took control after their double substitution.
Celtic were kicked off the park, literally on one occasion. It was not until Anthony Ralston came on that we saw a robust response. The game is not always about the pretty stuff, some of the greatest Celtic teams had granite hard geniuses.
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MadMitch on 18th April 2022 7:18 pm,
I’m not following any of those claims about the “anti-undemocratic revolutionary violence”, excuse my inablity to distinguish reading from understanding but, can you advise?
You can maybe start by describing the democracy that existed prior to the revolutionary violence and the number of participants allowed to take part in that ‘democracy’ before the revolution, my reading (only reading mind) was approx 15%, does that qualify as democracy? 1918 saw men over 21 getting a vote, a direct result of the 1916 “anti-undemocratic revolutionary violence”. Even then the govt was still appointed by London, is that democracy?
I’d recommend (the best I’ve come across) the following as excellent peer reviewed research summary of the context and lead up to the 1916 “anti-undemocratic revolutionary violence” (as described by you), obviously I could be wrong and hopefully you will point out and help me form a better understanding of what I was reading.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/342124071_The_Easter_Rising_1916_in_Ireland_and_its_Historical_Context_The_Campaign_for_an_Irish_Democracy
Maybe then you can help me understand what the Irish violent revolution and the “anti-undemocratic revolutionary violence” that happened in Ukraine 2014, at 6 to 10 months prior to the next scheduled democratic election? followed by the outlawing of the two biggest political parties in the Ukraine had/have in common.
Or you could do your usual, cherry pick and shoot off at tangents then claim only you can understand and interpret basic English. Suggest you read the research first, it might help you have a better appreciation of why your anti-undemocratic revolutionary violence” claim is utter drivel, though it has become obvious you are not open to objectivity.
Lionroars..,
Think you might want to read it again, in your haste to have a dig you missed a very important aspect, it was a proposed strategy not historical record.
https://thecelticstar.com/video-lundstram-madden-bromance-no-comment/#.Yl5j4KkspU8.whatsapp
ERNIE LYNCH on 18TH APRIL 2022 6:30 PM
LYNOTT67 on 18TH APRIL 2022 3:31 PM
‘Gerrybhoy ,
Rangers was never mentioned in her condemnation, only ‘thuggish ‘ supporters’
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And an Old Firm Match.
”Football should be something that people can take their kids to and have a happy joyful occasion and behaviour like that, whether it’s at an Old Firm match or any other football match besmirches that and it should absolutely be seen as unacceptable.”
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She also used the word “unacceptable”.
Look up the quotes.
https://twitter.com/tic_tac_tic/status/1516138042335051783
Yes, Celtic were poor on the day, but they got away with sheer brutality and thuggish play.
GERRYBHOY on 19TH APRIL 2022 8:29 AM
‘She also used the word “unacceptable”.
Look up the quotes.’
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Yeah I saw that. If you look closely you’ll see that it’s in the sentence I quoted. Here is what she said in full. You’ll notice there is no mention of which team the perpetrators support.
“This sort of behaviour is not acceptable,” the First Minister told LBC on Monday morning.
“Whether it happens at a football match or in the street, people throwing glass bottles is just not acceptable.
“It’s mindless, thuggish behaviour and it has no place in any civilised society.
“But these are matters for the authorities, obviously for the football authorities and potentially for the police and criminal justice authorities.
“Regardless of what team you support, I’m not the world’s biggest football fan and not just because my team is Ayr United, but people should be able to enjoy football.
“Football should be something that people can take their kids to and have a happy, joyful occasion.
“Behaviour like that whether it’s at an Old Firm match or any other football match besmirches that, and it should absolutely be seen as unacceptable.”
DAVID66 on 19TH APRIL 2022 6:53 AM
‘I keep seeing a poster calling another a Toaty trumper is this a reference to potatoes/famine what or why else would someone use that reference.’
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It’s a Scotch word for small.
I thought you’d know that.
Many similarities to season 97-98 when after appointing a manager from Japanese football we had a poor start to the season then a run of form which saw us win the league cup,lose in the semi final of the cup to the then Rangers (who in turn lost to Hearts in the final 🙏) before going onto win the league.Hopefully the similarities continue but minus the tense (huge understatement)final day.
Broonie would have had lundstrum sorted , they knew we didn’t have a warrior in our team a problem position knowing full well he was off should have been addressed . Hearts have a few hardy players the old firm won’t get it easy in the final . HH
Cana @ 8.20
Did the suffragettes attack a post office in 1916 / Full Metal Jacket style attack on the Esher branch of the GPO — well they got the vote in 1918 so by your reasoning they must have.
WW1 changed the world.
The Easter Rising was but a pin-prick compared to that event.
1918 was the end of — some — empires and the rise of hyper nationalism.
That didn’t end well — did it?
The paper you highlight — readable but pretty low rent stuff.
More about history than searing analysis but still worth the read.
Ladybird book level but it collects a lot of info in the one place.
Interesting that they threw off the Imperial yoke but the religious yoke got tighter.
Some you win / some you lose.
Interesting point about 1829.
Probably part of the blowback of the events of 1828 over the water.
Which then leads into 1841 and then 1845.
Easter 1916 — to me that was anti democratic revolutionary violence.
Did an oppressed population rise up and through off their yokes?
Not quite — they turned their anger on the Burton’s Commandos and got on with life.
1916 — The Burton’s Commandos lost the war but won the peace.
A bit like the American Civil War — those that lost it won and are still winning the peace.
And what did the peace bring to the 26 counties — a disastrous civil war and 50 years of economic stagnation and political backwardness.
Jumped out of one multi national political grouping centred around a city with poor food only to be rescued by another multi national grouping centred around a city with slightly better food.
All that effort when an a couple of series of Masterchef has produced the same result.
26 Counties @ Westminster vs 26 Counties @ EP — who has / had the most influence?
26 Counties @ Westminster — Maggie and her ism would not have existed.
Consequently doing the calculus of progressive politics — Easter 1916 was a total disaster for the people of the 26 counties and the Catholic population in the 6 counties of the North.
And it took a progressive politician from over the water to sort it all out — more MoM than TB but they got a result.
However they — the Burton’s Commandos / GB — got a flag out of it.
So all is well.
If An Tearmann is being called small anything, I wouldn’t like to meet his Big Brother,
D66 @ 6.53
Given the political journey of a member of CQN — the use of the word Toaty is appropriate.
He has came a long way since he started out as a City / Big Bang bean counter.
First he was a Micro Marxist.
Then he was a Tiny Trot.
Now he is a Toaty Trumper.
Given your lack of engagement with the Scottish vocabulary I probably should have used something else.
Now back to the football — BM’s performance is starting to get the focus it deserves.
The most important men in town would come to fawn on me!
They would ask me to advise them,
Like a Solomon the Wise.
“If you please, Reb Tevye…”
“Pardon me, Reb Tevye…”
Posing problems that would cross a rabbi’s eyes!
And it won’t make one bit of difference if i answer right or wrong.
When you’re rich, they think you really know!
I see that my decision to stay away from CQN in the wake of Sunday’s game because of the inevitable in-fighting and unionist trolling that always comes after a bad result was fully justified.
Interesting comments about our MF mix over on KDS.
Who is doing the most “damage” in the ECh?
RC @ Bournemouth
AC @ Luton
ON @ Swansea
Interesting stuff given that AC ran down his contract at M/weel.
Corkcelt 9.34am
Am Tearmann as you know, is anything but small and a total gentleman
The posters who have sly digs at him obviously have never met him and as per usual only here to try and disrupt the blog when Celtic don’t win … funnily enough no mention of our under 18s results this weekend
We were rubbish on Sunday …. But in the last 8 months Celtic have been excellent domestically and actually (results apart) decent in Europe …
Tom 9.56am
Some CQNers revel in a Celtic “draw” :-)
Roll on Ross County …. And I hope Craig Gordon lifts the Scottish cup this year … he deserves it (in my opinion)
Madmitch 10.04am
I wanted Celtic to sign Alan Campbell … I really like David Turnbull but actually think Campbell would have been a terrific signing as Well …
Hibs sack Maloney
Never liked Maloney … one decent season then bolted to Villa after taking a wage for about 18mths while injured …
Although his debut … Ibrox ? When he was named as a sub not one of us watching the game had even heard of him … think he might have scored after Lubo put it in a plate for him ….
Hibs should never have sacked Jack Ross
MM,
As expected cherrypicked tangential and mostly irrelevant to the discussed subject, with a touch of condescending nonesense, most likely to avoid the camparison with the current Ukraine and your support for the nazi junta and its resultant current regime.
True democracy arrived in Ireland for the first time in Ireland as a direct result of the 1916 uprising irrespective of who was involved in the armed conflict or where the assault took place. How do we know that? Because they were allowed to make their own mistakes which you argue their right to do so should have been denied.
What happend after democracy arrived is irrelevant, the democracy was/is a direct result of that uprising. There was nothing anti-democratic about the emancipation of the Irish, again irrespective of what followed.
After 700 years of colonisation I doubt the Irish considered their emancipation a pin prick compared to WWI regardless of anyone elses opinion and they are after all the subject of the debate, so maybe a strawman argument for distraction purposes.
No one but you is doing the “calculus of progressive politics” another straw man to distract from the resulting democracy that allowed a nation the freedom to make its own mistakes. Meanwhile the UK is now a US colony, (democracy anyone) that is not allowed to dissent on US policy, while Ireland can and do dissent at the EU parliament.
currently the irish are throwing off the relogous yolk while the British are finding new religous yolks to shackel their population to.
Hibs………Malky MacKay ??
TOM MCLAUGHLIN on 19TH APRIL 2022 9:56 AM
I see that my decision to stay away from CQN in the wake of Sunday’s game because of the inevitable in-fighting and unionist trolling that always comes after a bad result was fully justified.
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When you say ‘unionist trolling’ do you mean suggesting that the ingrained anti Celtic bias by referees might somehow have its roots in Scodddish Kulture?
GFTB on 19TH APRIL 2022 10:08 AM
Corkcelt 9.34am
‘Am Tearmann as you know, is anything but small and a total gentleman’
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Fair enough.
But he still posts nonsense. And that’s just the bits that are intelligible. God knows what the rest of it’s about.
And he’s obsessed
GFTB @ 10.08
Toaty Trumper is a total snyder when it comes to politics.
Howls at the moon for effect but never offers anything regarding his own political history.
Nothing about who / what he supports just Forger’s Gazette tripe about TB.
Then you have the GGG angle — he must have nipped his burd / stolen is abacus back in the day.
Incoherent moon howling with some very focused / pointed comments about Gorgeous GG.
Either that or he hates cats.
As for the football — nothing of note.
Plus his geography skills are poor — gets mixed up between Cumberland Street and a Scottish 1950’s new town — strange one that.
Don’t like to see anyone lose their job but after the way he had his team playing against Celtic my sympathy for Maloney is limited.
Pt 2
And he’s obsessed with matters scatological if his choice of vocabulary is anything to go by.
Welcome to the unemployed Shaun.
Could never understand the sacking if Jack Ross.
Cana @ 10.29
Stick to the VP love — you talk more sense at that level.
Ukraine — you really aren’t reading the room are you?
Russia / VP is to blame for the carnage in Ukraine — they started swinging so they are het.
VP / Russia has had a lot of success with their cyber warfare / opinion shaping efforts.
It is just a pity that there war making efforts have been a bit sub-optimal.
And you can add the Russian Navy to the list I gave you last week.
Under performing just like the army and the air force.
Aggressive / non democratic / revolutionary violence — That Russia in the Ukraine today.
A bit like the Burton’s Commandos in 1916.
True democracy — my erse / it was self appointed attention seekers shouting the odds.
Ernie & Madmitch 10.33am & 10.35am respectively
Am not interested in anyones politics (am not even convinced with my own) so try my best to stay away from that … it’s CELTIC quick news not snp, Tory, Labour quick news
My opinion of AT is some try and get him to bite on subjects other than Celtic and he will stand his ground
Maybe Hibs will move for Malky and unsettle the Ross County before we play them ….
9pts is all that’s needed … and extra time doesn’t count so we are still undefeated since September 2021 domestically
Whilst maybe just paper talk, the suggestion of Newcastke signing a youth player from sevco, shortly after we lost a player to Liverpool, is a worrying development.
Developing our own talent before selling at the top end of the Scottish market, was always a lucrative revenue stream.
To lose this puts more focus on our recruitment and resale process
GFTB @ 10.49
You either have a very limited / partial viewpoint on Toaty Trumper or you are at it?
Why would someone troll / fish on a variety of topics on a CFC website?
Why look for attention by howling at the moon / talking tripe / spouting non facts about a variety of subjects that have nothing to do with football?
He knows very little about football.
He knows nothing about politics.
He knows even less about kidology.
Consequently I think you try too hard.
Every one of those 9 points looks as if they are going to be sore.
Interesting to see who the 5 MIB will be?
Mini league to see who can deliver the biggest honest mistake?
Uncle Jimmy 10.54am
It’s not that worrying … look at Islam Feruz we “lost” him to Chelsea and he got a 7 year deal and is now making hats at the age of 24
Young players will always be lost … what we need to do is loan them all out to lower league clubs Scotland or England let them realise that you need to put a bit of work in to make it in football
My best example
Callum MacGregor at Notts County, think Callum scored 14 goals in one season my words were “we might get £2m fir him as he isn’t good enough for us”
So delighted to be so wrong as Callum is now one of my favourite players
Madmitch 10.59am
I have met AT in real life so I know exactly who he is so am not “at it”
And I can assure you none of the 9pts won’t be “sore” they will be both enjoyable & delightful
MM,
More strawman nonesense, the 2014 Junta ended democracy in Ukraine, since then the nazi’s have been waging war on a civilian population, that is a matter of record though not in the sanitised version you prefer, thats when the swinging started.
Your reliance and support for on the NATO propaganda machine that took us into illegal invasions of Yugoslavia, Iraq (twice) Afghanistan, Lybia, Syria and Yeman demonstrates either a failure to apply critical thinking or an unwavering support for imperial occupation, more likely both, going on your latest misrepresentation of the contribution to Irish democracy of the 1916 uprising, you do not do objectivity.
As for current status in Ukraine, I expect Mariupol and the civilians now returning to the surface after a month of being shot and killed by the Azov nazi’s for trying to find food and water will disagree completely with your propaganised assessment. Mariupol now has a lot more independent reporters present and on route, collecting statements and Affidavit’s from the victims of the attempted ethnic cleansing which will surface irrespective of how hard the NATO propaganda tries to suppress it. I expect the russian’s are so confident in what will be uncovered they will not attempt to imitate the US policy of approving reporters articles before permitting publication, remember free speech and freedom of the press, now hen’s teeth in the west.
MM 10.59am
Cheers for the compliment …
In all my years you are the only person that has said that I try too hard
Everybody that knows me have always said I don’t try enough :-)
Although am not sure “consequently” is the correct context … but each to their own … I still don’t think you are Celtic fan but sort of admire the fact you post on a Celtic supporters site …
I remember Shaun Maloney being linked with us. Indeed he was touted by some on Celtic blogs.
We dodged a bullet.
In Ange we trust. ( To learn lessons and continue this fantastic journey.
“Why would someone troll / fish on a variety of topics on a CFC website?”
Go on tell us why you do it …😜