Surprised we got two in yesterday, as Manchester City under-grad, Jason Denayer, signed for a year-long loan last night. The 19-year-old has yet to play first team football so is likely to be considered as backup at Celtic, though reports are promising.
Not surprised that Legia Warsaw have lodged an appeal to Uefa to be re-instated into the Champions League, they have to try everything possible. It has not been confirmed what ground Legia have appealed on, however, at the weekend, Polish FA chief exec, Zbigniew Boniek, suggested an appeal would be made on two grounds:
That only one member of the UEFA Control, Ethics and Disciplinary Body was at the hearing to made the decision, and
That Legia were not given the chance to make a submission to the Body.
There are 10 members of the Disciplinary Body and rules state that decisions require the attendance of at least three, unless the case is “urgent”, when a decision can be taken by one member. To defend their process, Uefa need to insist that the circumstances were urgent, probably citing the Champions League play-off draw, which was due to take place two hours later.
While the Disciplinary Body allow submissions to be made prior to a hearing, Article 34 authorises the Body to undertake a hearing without submissions and “in the absence of one or all of the parties”.
In the unlikely event Legia won an appeal on procedural grounds, a subsequent hearing, perhaps with more Disciplinary Body members in attendance, would take place, and would inevitably reach the same conclusion.
Article 21, paragraph 2, of the Uefa Disciplinary Regulations state, “A match is declared forfeit if a player who has been suspended following a disciplinary decision participates in the match.” There is no ambiguity or lateral for the Disciplinary Body to exercise a different reprimand.
Legia’s appeals can carry on all the way to the Court of Arbitration for Sport but Celtic will not be involved in any future issues. NK Maribor represent a vastly, vastly, greater risk to their Champions League aspirations.
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Geordie Munro
How would you feel if it was the other way around?
Desertbhoy
Enjoy bud. Macclesfield do have a fitba team, but at 49 I don’t earn my living playing the game. Should be back in Clydebank just in time to watch in my local. Hope it is better than last Wed’s non performance.
Perhaps Celtic could ask UEFA if we could withdraw from the tournament and allow Sevco to take our place.
Neu Stadt
very good read
I have no prejudices with regards mental disorders and/or addictions. I have much experience with both. I worked in a mental Health hospital for 6 months. Beyond saddened that he decided to take his own life and love him all the more for it. If that´s bad then tough.
HH
Raberto67….
Nobody said it was intentional unless the ol’ UFH got in there.
Rules are rules… the point being they are made to be adhered to; besides there’s a possible 10-15 mill at stake.
Nice bulk E mail transmission from Celtic Park describing Ronny’s knowledge of and familiarity of both new players.
If you think UEFA are going to do a turnaround for Legia in the interests of fairness perhaps you haven’t been paying attention, they would have to re-write the whole rule book every time someone felt hard done by.
We got spanked : our problem
They played a banned player : their problem
Game forfeited : UEFA decisions.
That’s all she wrote folks….
Well said Ernie…the handwringing is driving me mad…Legia are lucky to be in the Europa League…they should be out of Europe altogether…
Kikinthenakas
I’m getting tired of this Celtic should do the morally right thing ! What does that mean ? Because there’s no helping Legia, they’re out – that’s a fait accompli and nothing we do will change that. By refusing to play Maribor we forfeit the tie and give Maribor a CL place – is that justice ?
Really getting tired of listening to the incessant nonsense about Celtic appealing to UEFA. It’s their rules, they can’t and won’t change them.
Robin Williams on golf an Scotland https://t.co/2TPRaQ09of
CAUTION STRONG LANGUAGE
Dunky… don’t think it could possibly be any worse!!
TBJ
Bloody wumman!!!! :-)
Aye it would appear that she’ll find out within the hour if someone’s taking them.
Re Ronny`s comments today about it being wage demands that are kyboshing our attempts to get new players in;
We have agreed to pay 100% of Tonev`s wages of £700,000 per year. That works out at almost £13,500 per week.
That suggests to me that our absolute wage ceiling for new signings is £15,000 per week.
I cannot believe that there are no players available who would:-
a) improve our team; and
b) be happy to sign for Celtic at £15,000 per week with the opportunity to possibly play Champions League football.
Canamaler
First of all, I’ll give it a rest if and when I choose to, ok?
How would it allow clubs to do the same? If you read what I said, we would need to agree to play them before that happened. If you read what I said, I said I don’t expect it to happen. If you read what I said, you’d see that I explicitly said ‘in theory’.
So you hand on heart, think they deliberately put a guy on the bench to bring on with a few mins to go in a second leg of a tie they 4-1 up in? Hmmmm.
Maybe I’ve missed something today. In what way are they not acting too honestly now? (Serious question).
mungolian bhoy
19:30 on
12 August, 2014
Those Legia performances were directed at the board. An emotional response to Neils departure. And, completely unprofessional.
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I agree the performances were unprofessional but I’m not sure I agree with your reasons why.
Would any player who was that disaffected not just slap in a transfer request?
Then again, how do we know they didn’t? hmmmm
Starry
You either haven’t read or understood what I’ve said.
In the interests of morality, have Legia punished their player who cheated for a penalty?
Raberto,
I’d be seriously pist that someone made the error but I’d accept that the rules were broken.
I’d also thank my lucky stars I still had European footy to look forward to.
the glorious balance sheet
19:39 on
12 August, 2014
I thought it was only half his wages.
Please confirm ?
HH
Aye, what if the boot was on the other foot, do you think the Legia support would be spouting the same drivel.
Big difference is, we would most likely discuss it to death and actually look at the rules, most would probably come to the conclusion it was a fair cop.
CFC seem to have managed the expectations of a section of the fans ..if comments on here are anything to go by
We have Deila saying he’s got loads of money to spend but can’t afford wages of the players ….funny that …..I know ..let’s just hoard the cash and get in some cheap loanees
quonno
19:27 on 12 August, 2014
thomthethim for Oscar OK
I would be delighted if Legia’s appeal gets the result it deserves and we get automatic entry to the EL.
Substitute THEM for Legia. What would appeal deserve?
*******
Not sure what you are asking me.
However, what I meant was that I hope their appeal gets chucked in the bin, with a disrepute charge put in it’s place.
Then, we can play Maribor, in the knowledge that, (a) the rules have been upheld and, (b) we are sure of at least European group football.
Not much to ask.
The SFA et al, concocted rule breaking, rule bending and new rules, for the good of the game.
Now, we even have Celtic supporters, who have suffered the aforementioned chicanery, wishing UEFA to bend their own rules, for the good of the game.
Like in Scotland, it is for the good of one club.
I have heard a rumour that we have a player lined up to buy before the Maribor game if Legia Warsaw lose tomorrows appeal. H.H.
Raberto, why would we play them at Celtic Park? In the interest of morality, we would have to play at Murrayfield again.
I have no doubt that morality would ensure that Legia players wouldn’t cheat again.
“So you hand on heart, think they deliberately put a guy on the bench to bring on with a few mins to go in a second leg of a tie they 4-1 up in? ”
Raberto,
Sorry for jumping in on your question to canam.
Why did they deliberately not register the banned player in their squad v st pats??
The glorious balance sheet
Re wages ..correct
I wonder how much Legia pay their players, Balse….how about Maribor…you know the team that are scaring the crap out of us
The Exiled Tim gave some info on the lower lever La Liga teams ….it’s BS
Canamaler
What has your assumed reaction of Legia supporters if it was the other way around got to do with anything? Do we judge ourselves by what others do/might do?
cpt beefheart delias a idiot
CB
Good point. Murrayfield then.
Joe Fillippi
Can you elaborate sir ?
CB
The difference is that a penalty (or any other decision given during a game) is a split second thing that happens in almost every game. It’s part of the game we play. This was a mistake.
As I said earlier the most pleasing aspect of the Legia debate today is that Canamalar is the main bhoy for resolution 12. A resolution about fairness and sticking RESOLUTELY to the law(s). Lets remind ourselves a resolution that our plc could not see off far enough. That resolute determination to stick to the ABSOLUTE letter of the law and the statutes and we are not just talking football law here. I have to say that Resolution 12 could not have a better champion than Canamalar.
Looking forward to its conclusion regardless how long it takes.
HH
Do we have an option to buy Denayer?
Awe Naw
I read on KDS that we were paying 100% of Tonev`s wages. Could be wrong, mind you.
Geordie
Did they deliberately not register him for those games?
Darwin,
Clearly your intellect is several notches above that of Ronny’s.
Big Wavy
Thanks for your reply earlier, apologies it’s been a busy day.
Pfayr
Nope.
I asked this question at the weekend .. Didn’t see any response so gonna ask again
If legia get knocked back and told to play EL football … Will they refuse and withdraw ?
Let’s see how much they see the pile of money over the moral high ground they preach to us