Magic from Madrid, share scams in 2012

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Atletico Madrid, happy for them?  Not an easy one.  I remember listening to the radio commentary the night we lost to them in the European Cup semi-final of 1974.  They, and Rapid Vienna a decade later, represented very unworthy competitors in European competition.

Both teams returned to Celtic Park in recent seasons.  Rapid picked up pretty much where we left them, an odious lot, but Atletico and their fans didn’t seem to bother about the past, they came and left wanting to play football.

As a boy I remember chastising old soldiers who fought the Germans during the war for their persistent aversion to modern Germans and Germany.  “They are a new people, nothing to do with the 30s and 40s”, I said.

It feels a bit ridiculous holding a grudge against Atletico.  Their achievement last night, and this season so far, has been fantastic.  Against the most powerful foes, they might just win the hardest league in the world and the Champions League.  This late in the season, that is a stunning prospect to still be on the table. They should be an inspiration to us all.

I see the media is (responsibly) alerting Celtic shareholders to the threat of a share scam apparently being perpetrated against unsuspecting fans by spivs and criminals.  Where were they in December 2012?

Seville – The Celtic Movement


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  1. Had to check out what my blue nose cuz is doing. He is a hard arsed blue nose as they come and as far as they go a decent lad ,his better half goes to paradise every week. Anyway looks like he will be telling sevco where to stick their season books. Get the extra helpings of Jelly and ice-cream ready season three of Zombieland is going to be fun.

  2. Awe mags why take away the fun of death by a thousand cuts, you are obviously a humanitarian and want a painless and clean demise. As long as my face and stomache mucles can take it give me fun anyday, within reason of course we should never need to play them. Hail Hail.

  3. Billy Bhoy 05 on

    ‘Utterly barbaric, can’t believe this passes for sport!’ Said one of the Organisers of the Grand National while watching an Iain Black montage on U Tube

  4. Frank Ryan's Whiskey " Independance for Shetland Now" on

    Wish Sean Mac Conmara (Jackie Mac) and Dundee Hibernian all the best for today.

  5. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    Richard Wilson writing for BBC Scotland. They may as well give Goram a column.

     

     

    HH

  6. TBJ Praying for Oscar Knox on

    Watching bbc news … Charlie stayte just revealed prince William still has a love for flying even though he has left the IRA ……

  7. You can’t say Kj lacks ambition. His current project is to prove that Keevins and McNee were Celtic men all the time.

     

    What will he be telling us next – Hitler worked tirelessly behind the scenes to save countless Jews from the gas chambers?

  8. squire danaher

     

    01:47 on

     

    12 April, 2014

     

    ACGR

     

     

    http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/26989381

     

     

    Jackie has his seat in dug out pending appeal but our national broadcaster gives very cryptic headline ..

     

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    The pic would suggest that Jackie has a case for threatening behaviour by Brines.

     

     

    And my mind goes back to Mr Andrew Davis and his infamous intervention when he had to be restrained by players as he tried to get at the Hearts player.

     

    Not much attention was given to it at the time …… or ever.

  9. Delaneys Dunky on

    Heading down to Ayr soon for the racing. Any Dundee Hibernian friendly pubs in the town? :)

  10. Morning, hope all well.

     

     

    Opening day at bowling club, Scottish Cup game will be on the TV, so will have no choice in the matter of seeing and hearing any score. Thankfully, there’s a few tims in the club, but no Dundee Utd fans……!

     

    But Jacki Mac is their manager so….. right I’m split, I usually go for the wee team, but my allegiance to former Celts is strong, apart from Judas.

     

    I’m a wee bit nervous, just in case there’s a giant killing scenario to be honest, am I alone.?

     

     

    Ayrshire is Green and White

  11. Does the semi – final have to reach a conclusion today?

     

     

    I have not heard from anyone re The CQN Golf Day even though I emailed as soon as the event was announced. Is this the norm?

     

    Thanks,

     

    JJ

  12. Jungle Jim

     

    09:35 on

     

    12 April, 2014

     

    Does the semi – final have to reach a conclusion today?

     

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    Yes.

  13. Mornin’ troops……….

     

     

    “ahm hearin’ reports of further ‘infrastructural-issues’…………at The Folly…

     

     

    ……*cough*………..

     

     

    TurnThemsLightsOot CSC

  14. McDowellcelt god bless wee oscar on

    Hopefully sevcos overpaid flops take a beating 2day bit I have my doubts.

     

    Pitch narrowed, none other than bobby madden as referee and a home game at a ‘neutral’ semi final!..

     

    SFA really are one of a kind!..

     

    Hopefully I’m proved wrong at the final whistle!

  15. delaneys dunky

     

     

    09:33 on 12 April, 2014

     

    Heading down to Ayr soon for the racing. Any Dundee Hibernian friendly pubs in the town? :)

     

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    You’ll be lucky…..

     

     

    HH

  16. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    Football

     

     

    Sport

     

     

    RangerslegendRichard GoughjoinsforceswithDave Kinginfreshassaulton currentclubregimeandsays ‘ItrustDavewithmylife’

     

     

    12 April 2014 03:00 AM

     

     

     

     

    THE nine-in-a-row captain has agreed to be trustee for an account for fans’ season ticket money after King accused the board of “an extreme act of bad faith” an accusation Rangers branded “disgraceful”.

     

     

    RANGERS legend Richard Gough refuses to miss the opportunity to do nothing as he accuses the Ibrox board of cheating on fans.

     

     

    The nine-in-a-row skipper who has been at a lose end for some time now has joined forces with Dave King in declaring all-out war against the current Rangers regime.

     

     

    Gough has agreed to stand as a trustee for the account into which the Light Blues legions are being invited to plough season-ticket money in return for a direct say in the running of the club.

     

     

    The patience of South Africa-based tycoon King finally snapped yesterday as he claimed Rangers chairman David Somers told him they had no intention of publishing the much-awaited 120-day business review until after the deadline for season-ticket renewals has passed.

     

     

    Rangers last night disputed King’s claims, branding them “disgraceful” on the eve of the Scottish Cup semi-final against Dundee United and are considering legal action.

     

     

    However, Gough is backing King’s version of events and insists the club are being disrespectful to fans who deserve to be given the board’s vision for the future after pumping tens of millions into their club in the last two seasons to help keep them afloat.

     

     

    Gough said: “It’s all quite astonishing. Dave has given the board every chance to come forward and publish the review at the end of the 120-day period and now they are not going to do that. I’m staggered by the board’s decision. I’m amazed the club have no intention of announcing details of the 120-day review until after the deadline for season-ticket renewals has passed.

     

     

    “It’s ridiculous.

     

     

    “It smacks of arrogance and they are cheating the supporters, the very people who have kept the club going these past few years.

     

     

    “Once again they are asking supporters to put forward their money without knowing how it will be spent.”

     

     

     

    Rangers fans were contacted this week by the club and told season tickets would soon be due for renewal, much earlier than usual.

     

     

    However, such has been the board’s haste to bring money in, fans have not yet been told the cost of season tickets, although price increases of at least 20 per cent from last year have been predicted.

     

     

    Gough, like King, has told them not to go ahead with the renewal process and to pledge the money to a trust fund instead, with the vow of transparency for how it is spent and the demand over the security of prized assets Ibrox and Murray Park in return.

     

     

    Gough added: “Let’s not give this board the money only to be disappointed again.

     

     

    “I’m firmly asking supporters to put their money into escrow and I promise we will look after it and use it for the best purposes of the club to get it back on an even keel.

     

     

    “I’m happy to be involved. I’d urge fans to put their money into this account and we’ll look after it. I have lots of experience with offshore bank accounts and tax avoidance schemes. The fund will start working for us immediately. It will go to all the right places, nowhere else – which seems to have been happening I think these last few years.

     

     

    “I’m proud and honoured to be given such a trusted position and I’ll do everything within my power to help me return Rangers to where we belong. ”

     

     

    Rangers supporters have lacked a senior figurehead from among the ranks of former players and managers to fight their cause due to the loss of faith of Walter Smith and Ally McCoist.

     

     

    Now Gough has been asked to stick his head above the parapet and it’s believed other influential figures, trusted by the Rangers fraternity, are ready to join him against the unpopular board.

     

     

    Gough said: “Any Rangers fans I’ve spoken to recently has urged me to get involved, to stand up and play a part, to make a statement. It’s a no-brainer for me. I’ll help the club any way I can. I’m delighted to be involved with Dave. The bottom line is I trust Dave King with my life. I have known him a long, long time, from my days in South Africa.

     

     

    “He is a family friend and I’m proud and honoured to stand by him. It will not be the first time that I have supplied character witness testimony and personal character references. Dave has already put £20 million into Rangers and has offered to invest another £30m.

     

     

    “It’s amazing the board have not already bitten his hand off and asked him to play a role at the club. If they show us their money first then and only then will we show them ours. We are not bluffing this time”

     

     

    The cards have now been dealt on a game of high-stakes poker that could see an unpopular regime toppled, the club enter administration for a second time or the board secure finance from other sources to continue into the new season.

     

     

    The latter option is the most controversial as it’s unlikely they could source anything other than high-interest loans, similar to the one struck with investors Laxey Partners before wealthy Rangers supporter George Letham stepped forward and offered better rates.

     

     

    Of course, the loans are more than likely to be secured against Ibrox and Murray Park, which is a scenario Rangers fans dread.

     

     

    The board could also go back to the market for fresh finance but that would require a new share issue, dilution of existing shareholders and there’s unlikely to be a stampede by investors if a war is raging between the club and its support.

     

     

    Newcastle United owner Mike Ashley also owns around five per cent of Rangers and he is flush with cash – he was hardly on the breadline before – after selling seven per cent of Sports Direct this week for £200m.

     

     

    He could ditch Newcastle Utd. and step forward and take a more prominent position at Ibrox and although it has been discussed at the highest levels of Rangers for the last 12 months, he is notoriously hard to read and has not suggested he is ready to move. So clearly his involvement is more than mere speculation.

     

     

    Asked about the future of the club, Gough added: “I don’t want to commit to talking about the future quite yet and what may happen in the coming weeks and months as I have not been briefed on that yet. Let’s see how the next couple of days pan out first.”

     

     

    He also defended the timing of the statement, on the eve of the crucial Scottish Cup semi-final against Dundee United, as did King.

     

     

    King said: “The timing was not of my choice. Rangers jumped the gun with their season-ticket announcement.”

     

     

    Gough added: “No matter what happens in the game against Dundee United, the club’s future is more important than one match.”

     

     

    Rangers fan organisations are keeping their powder dry for now but their support for King remains unwavering.

     

     

    Chris Graham, spokesman for Union of Fans, which represents all the major supporters’ groups, said: “We’re pleased with the statement and will make a full comment on Monday. What Dave Kings says speaks for itself.”

  17. Good morning all

     

     

    BMCUW

     

     

    Thanks for that call yesterday, fair cheered me up after a horrible week.

     

     

     

    United should wipe the floor with this mob today, just play their own game.

     

     

    Weefra HH supporting and praying for Wee Oscar

  18. Morning all. Wild, wet and windy down here at the moment.

     

     

    In spite of my paranoid expectation of the ole honest mistakes rearing their ugly head in gay (no pun intended) abandon, I am very hopeful that Dundee United will be far far too good for the deid team. Mon Jim Spence’s 11; do Scottish football a favour and put them out to grass once and forever.

  19. Pogmathonyahun aka Laird of the Smiles on

    Good morning from a very sunny Nordrhein Westfalen, I’ve been tasked to mow the lawn this morn, I use that term loosely as there is more moss than grass.

     

    I don’t normally watch the zombies but there promises to be side splitting entertainment this afternoon. I see from the the Hootsmon’s 1978 article that there was a world record for that dead team RFC 1872 – Attendance: 25,619.

     

    I wonder if the new club will beat it? Sorry, I forgot the game was being played at a neutral venue.

     

    PS, BT if you are up and about we are waiting for your selection for the Couponeers ;-)

  20. McDowellcelt god bless wee oscar on

    Micktt

     

    Yes they narrowed the pitch!lol

     

    Ye couldn’t make it up!

  21. Snake Plissken on

    The thing is if they lose today it will propel the admin closer with all the bother that will bring from a structural point of view on top of what it means for them personally.

     

     

    They would be likely to go up regardless of a points deduction this season and a player cull.

     

     

    Next season in a league featuring Hearts, Falkirk, Raith and one of – Hamilton, Dundee and with a potential Partick Thistle, St Mirren, Ross County or even Hibs that without major investment is a league with that manager in place they will far from walk at best.

     

     

    Hearts have a better squad (should they survive).

     

    Dundee are as good

     

    Raith can gub them

     

     

    Etc etc

     

     

    Honest mistakes would not be as influential in that league with that company with those players and that manager.

     

     

    This is why today will be the eye-opener of all time for anyone who thinks they will be beaten easily today.

     

     

    This game will be close unless United bring their A-game and then some.

  22. Delaneys Dunky on

    Micktt

     

     

    The crowd of us from Clydebank going to Ayr today, will take a chance! :))

  23. TheOriginalSadiesBhoy on

    31003

     

     

    21:09 on 11 April, 2014

     

    Hands up everybody who……if you were considering changing your name would change it to………Bastien Schweinsteiger?

     

     

    ………………………..

     

     

    While you got to love Bastien, my own personal preference would be Ronan O’Gara. :-))

  24. I see that there are adverts in the paper today talking about the English FA Cup semis and the chance of a third tier team making the finals.

     

     

    I’m surprised that the Scottish media aren’t highlighting a similar story. And its a club with about 100 years less history too …

  25. “(The) Rangers manager Ally McCoist claims anyone who questioned his choice of Double Supper following the Ramsdens cup final defeat is ‘ very, very wrong’………….”

     

    (Various)

  26. A team of youngster’s playing today, against a group of win at all costs peepol. Get the hard early tackles in against the boys, don’t worry no bookings the first fifteen mins for us, get them retaliating, see how the ref deals with that side for cards for the boys. Red probably.

     

     

    There’s only one way to stop a Utd win today and it ain’t by playing football, Sevco must win and probably will….!

     

     

    Maybe I’m just preparing myself

     

     

    Ayrshire is Green and White

  27. Iki & Hebcelt

     

    Thank you both ( and well done Hebcelt on understanding the question this time!!).

     

     

    CQN Golf? Anyone been contacted yet? Anyone got Taggsybhoy`s email addy?

     

    JJ

  28. leftclicktic We are all Neil Lennon on

    TBJ Praying for Oscar Knox

     

     

     

    09:11 on 12 April, 2014

     

     

     

    Watching bbc news … Charlie stayte just revealed prince William still has a love for flying even though he has left the IRA ……

     

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    Heard it :)))

     

     

    Right off to start getting ready for celts in Seville this afternoon:))))).

     

     

     

    I hope I am not on here tonight slating corrupt Mibbery I truly do but I doubt it.

     

    If it was just about football Dundee Utd would wipe the foor with them .

     

     

    Off to bet Cifci to score 2 or more and hope that DU make the MIBs irrelevant by scoring a hatfull

  29. Jungle Jim –

     

     

    re the golf day, I don’t think the ‘you’ve been accepted’notices are yet out. I’m also still anxiously waiting. I do have Taggsybhoy’s email but wouldn’t like to post it on here. YOu could try either posting on the CQN Facebook page or email Paul67 and ask if he could pass your email address onto Taggsy?

  30. delaneys dunky

     

     

    09:51 on 12 April, 2014

     

    Micktt

     

    The crowd of us from Clydebank going to Ayr today, will take a chance! :))

     

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    Och you’ll be fine then, I can only speak for Prestwick couple of pubs here, and probably as far from the race course as Ayr pubs, taxi either way.

     

     

    Flannigans and Scruffy Duffy’s

  31. In spite of the bravado, I am quite sure that a great many on here are worried that The Tribute Band may prevail.

     

    many keep saying that The Rangers are dire, rubbish, useless etc. What is really meant is that compared to Rangers they are all of these things. But this team is NOT Rangers. This is a new team which has shown itself to be far superior to all the other teams in the fourth and third tiers. They will be favourites to win the second tier. They are not a useless side. They are not as good as Dundee United and United should win ( and maybe comfortably so ) but don`t right off the underdogs just because of who they pretend to be. I can see this going to extra time. I cam also see United winning by four.

     

    JJ

  32. This weeks picks from the CQN Couponeers –

     

     

    Lennybhoy – Burnley

     

    Awalkacrosstherooftops – Stoke

     

    PFayr – Derby

     

    The Token “Two Tips” Tim – Dundee Utd and/or MK Dons.

     

    Blantyretim – Brechin

     

    Greenlion2 -Peterborough

     

    Pogmanthony – Bristol Rovers

     

    Jobo Baldie – Crystal Palace