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Over the last few days of the European transfer window I was keen to find out what business Ajax would be able to complete (what Milan and Barca did is of scant interest).  Between Friday and yesterday Ajax lost two players, Danish midfielder Christian Eriksen moved to Tottenham, and yesterday, Belgian defender, Toby Alderweireld joined Atletico Madrid.

Both were big players for the Dutch champions, who could realise €20m from the sales, but attempts to sign Ola John from Benfica and Eljero lia of Werder Bremen failed, instead they paid Heracles Almelo €2.5m for midfielder Lerin Duarte.

The Amsterdamers had a frustrating final few hours of the window.  No doubt potential targets were worried about having to face three huge teams in the Champions League.  In a difficult group, this is what counts as a break for Celtic.  Only five games into their league season and without Champions League qualifiers to use as a yardstick, the group stage will come early for Ajax.

Living adjacent to an over-monied behemoth has considerable drawbacks as even our top clubs struggle to retain teenagers in the face of English lower league competition but such a rich market can also bring enough transfer income to make the difference between feast and famine.

The English Premier League spent £445m on transfers outside England but apart from Celtic and Hamilton Accies, who between them will earn around 4% of that total, I don’t think anyone else in Scotland got a piece of the action.

Nurturing and selling talent to England has to be a strategy for dozens of clubs here.  Paying (for them) top wages to players who are no longer able to gain employment in England can only be considered a waste by comparison.
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  1. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    THM

     

     

    no you falsely think that those who might complain even continually are not getting pleasure from Celtic. In fact they might even ONLY get pleasure from complaining about Celtic. Who knows ? Nobody is in a position to judge from a virtual fourm. The mission statement is for both happy clappers and mineshafters. I am not really that surprised that you cant see that from reading your contributions to the blog over the years.

     

     

    HH

  2. jmccormick

     

    12:38 on

     

    3 September, 2013

     

    Kilbowie Kelt

     

    11:58 on

     

    3 September, 2013

     

    Auldheid

     

     

    I have signed Canalamars resolution, can I scan it and send on to an e-mail or does he need it posted?

     

    let me know

     

    Thanks

     

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++

     

    Yes a scanned version with your signature which will then printed and handed in to Celtic is what is needed. So send the scanned image to canalamar and he and Morrisey will do the rest.

     

     

    canalamar@hotmail.com

  3. The Honest Mistake loves being first

     

    13:24 on

     

    3 September, 2013

     

    Awe naw.

     

    And as I pointed out the happy clappers are enforcing the social mission statement by excluding those without the belief that football is a medium for Healthy pleasure.

     

    Is the social mission statement the green hun manifesto?

     

     

    Naw, it’s about honesty and transparency in Scottish Footy.

     

    It’s not about secret handshakes and backhanders and taking

     

    out loans on the never-never payback

  4. AKBW1888

     

    13:33 on

     

    3 September, 2013

     

    The Honest Mistake loves being first

     

    13:24 on

     

    3 September, 2013

     

    Awe naw.

     

    And as I pointed out the happy clappers are enforcing the social mission statement by excluding those without the belief that football is a medium for Healthy pleasure.

     

    Is the social mission statement the green hun manifesto?

     

     

    Naw, it’s about honesty and transparency in Scottish Footy.

     

    It’s not about secret handshakes and backhanders and taking

     

    out loans on the never-never payback and grand larceny by

     

    avoiding ones dues/tax.

  5. Spending ——- allowing for that in/out thing

     

     

    Barcelona ——28.9 million euros

     

    Bayern Munich —–21 million euros

     

    Borussia———- 17.8 million euros

     

    Chelsea—————60.8 million euros.

     

    Juventus ————–15.95 euros

     

    Manchester City ——-104.3 million euros

     

    Man United ————32 million euros

     

    Monaco ——157.9 million euros.

     

    Napoli ——–14 million euros

     

    Porto —— + 38.8 million euros

     

    PSG—— 86 million euros.

     

    Shakhtar ——+ 1 million euros

  6. The Honest Mistake loves being first on

    Awe naw.

     

    What about the posters who admit that they get no pleasure from celtic or football anymore? Are they fair game?

     

    So we’re not allowed to judge whether somebody takes pleasure out of Celtic because its a virtual forum but you’re allowed to judge my previous contributions to come to a conclusion about me on a virtual forum.

     

    Ps, talking of past contributions, how would your homophobic name calling fit in with the social mission statement?

  7. The Honest Mistake loves being first on

    By the way before I’m savaged for being antagonistic and always looking for the last word , I’ll take my leave now.

     

    Hail hail.

     

    Mon the hoops.

  8. England has roughly 11 times the pop of Scotland…………it is tv money that drives the football economy in England…….saturated coverage means huge advertising revenue…..not sure on actual viewing figs…….would love to see them……They also sell all over the world…..

     

     

    Brilliant salesmanship…..means brilliant returns……means very rich football clubs..

     

     

    Scotland has a fairly poor product……..but again id like to see viewing figs for each match…

     

     

    There is a helluva lot of sky dishes all over Scotland that feeds the frenzy of the epl……and in effect losses our best players to them……

     

     

    The answer??……maybe one day football fans here might just get the bolt……and say no more……am not feeding the monster any more!!!

     

     

    Or maybe a 11th of the tv money ??……..now that would be fair….

  9. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    THM

     

     

    1) Shouldn´t we try to help them ?

     

     

    2) No

     

     

    3) Was it accurate ? If I called you a poof I apologise. I am learning too

     

     

    There are some though who can deduce the beleifs of another. Conceited beyond shame and unable to learn.

     

     

    HH

  10. jeez i thought .@ 13 29 .

     

     

    Robhino gets a game ..

     

     

    He got 5 minutes as a sub v PSV ..

     

     

    He got an hour v Cagliari. He scored the first in a 3-1 win.. He is regarded as being way past his best.

  11. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    1) Love thy neighbour

     

     

     

    2) Turn the other cheek

     

     

     

    3) practice what you preach

  12. oh and by the way…………….a 11th of the tv money would give scot football a staggering ……106 million a year!!

  13. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS forza Oscar and Mackenzie on

    oscar knox is my hero – rwe

     

     

    13:39 on 3 September, 2013

     

    BMCUW

     

     

    Late again

     

    ……..

     

    Fine Gerry Rafferty song though …

     

     

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

     

     

    Haha,canny argue wi that…..

     

     

    Hopefully,I’ll Get it Right Next Time!

  14. More from Ms CF

     

    @CharlotteFakes: Rather ironically, Whyte chased the ex Labour MP and no meeting took place.

     

     

    Where has Griffiths been for the past few years, the moon?

     

    @CharlotteFakes: Despite the 5 way agreement published earlier, the SPFL are considering transferring the 250k fine from oldco to newco. #AskSPFLNoDenial

     

     

    HH

  15. Seeing Mark Hately in Sauchiehall Street is nothing like signing a proven goalscorer.

     

     

    He’s the colour of strong tea. It’s not right.

  16. From last post

     

     

    Anyone know what the sketch is for the European away match tickets now that Celtic have taken all the travel arrangements on board. Been to a few away matches and was offered tickets for the recent match at the camp nou, so may have a wee chance in the ballots (If any). Booked up for a 3 night stay in Amsterdam with a few mates and young Palacio, staying at the Ibis at the airport.

     

     

    HH

     

     

    greenwhiteandoranjecsc

  17. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS forza Oscar and Mackenzie on

    AWE NAW

     

     

    IMO,your reply to THE HONEST MISTAKE at 1350 was beneath you.

     

     

    Not up to your usual high standards,not by a long chalk. But heyho,I’ve had plenty of occasion to wish I could retract a comment,so you’re in good company!

     

     

    I’ve met THE HONEST MISTAKE,and have every intention of doing so again. A very enjoyable evening singing joking and erm bevvying like there was no tomorrow,me him and his six or seven mates.

     

     

    He’s a good guy,like many on here,he believes the club are pursuing the right policy.

     

     

    So does my Dad. I disagree,there are a lot of areas with which I am not happy.

     

     

    But I wouldn’t fall out wi my Dad about it. And equally I don’t see the point in falling out with anyone on here about it.

     

     

    My views are plain. As are those of others.

     

     

    Persuasion of the validity of your viewpoint is one thing. And a positive approach.

     

     

    Your post at 1350 falls short,sadly.

  18. praecepta

     

    13:43 on

     

    3 September, 2013

     

    Celtic v Morton League Cup tie moved to 24th September – 7:45pm KO.

     

     

    Thanks for the update, Praecepta.

     

    The TO @ CP Yesterday, informed myself that said tickets will not go

     

    on sale, until the CL Home Tickets are dispatched & I’ve also heard

     

    via good authority that they are only opening one tier @ a time for said

     

    match 1) Lower Tier 2) Then Upper Tier

  19. Palacio67

     

    14:05 on

     

    3 September, 2013

     

    From last post

     

     

    Anyone know what the sketch is for the European away match tickets now that Celtic have taken all the travel arrangements on board. Been to a few away matches and was offered tickets for the recent match at the camp nou, so may have a wee chance in the ballots (If any). Booked up for a 3 night stay in Amsterdam with a few mates and young Palacio, staying at the Ibis at the airport.

     

     

    HH

     

     

    greenwhiteandoranjecsc

     

     

    Palacio, I’m looking into this matter for a couple of friends of mine who are going

     

    over to the Dam to watch the Hoops play. I’ll let you know what the script is about

     

    said CL Away match tickets when I get the info in due course.

  20. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    ” BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS forza Oscar and Mackenzie

     

     

    14:05 on 3 September, 2013

     

     

    AWE NAW

     

     

    IMO,your reply to THE HONEST MISTAKE at 1350 was beneath you. ”

     

     

     

    elaborate

     

     

    Am I not being pidgeon holed as being homophobic now ??? to suit the blinkered ignorant agenda of others

     

     

     

    And unless your answer is a belter I retract nothing .. and I reckon it should be

     

     

    HH

  21. AKBW1888

     

    14:17 on

     

    3 September, 2013

     

     

    Thanks AKBW1888, would be interesting to see how much of an allocation we get for the Amsterdam Arena.

     

     

    HH

  22. Guy on the Rug’len trains got a Bluetooth Headset on, and at least three electrical gadgets on his belt, – How can you take him seriously, when he says ….tickets please?

     

     

    Inspector Gadget CSC

  23. I´m really looking forward to the Champions League games. I was worried we had lost our ´spine´, but less so now. VW is a huge loss, but we were well compensated. It´s impossible to replace him, but we can and did bring in someone else, which is as much as can be asked for.

     

     

    Hooper, won´t miss as much. His goals yes, but I always felt the rest of his game wasn´t good enough. He didn´t have a lot of pace, didn´t hold the ball up too great and was more of a chance converter, than having the ability to make and finish goals. We seem to have bought 2 replacements for upfront. One is a young big and strong looking guy, who if he works out, could score a lot and make us a great ROI. The other is someone who wasn´t currently getting a game for his club, albeit in a very strong league. He seems to have good abilities though, and if he gets of to a good start, could improve his goals to game ratio by some way here in the SPHell.

     

     

    We are taking a chance of course, by not buying a ´proven´ goal scorer. But just how do you get one of these at a good price, with good sell on value? I liked the ratio of the guy we missed out on, but why should we pay way over the odds, for someone who might not even score loads in our league, never mind the huge step up to the Champions League. We didn´t get to the financially stable postion we are in today, by paying over the odds. We need to find ´misfits´, guys who are not getting a regular game at other clubs, but have potential that we spot, to maybe do something different for us. Sometimes it won´t work at all, but other times it will be great, its just one of those things.

     

     

    We also brought in a couple of defenders, so hopefully we actually end up stronger in that department over the course of the season. And we brought in the winger from James Remar´s team. Which hopefully makes us more creative, and creates more chances. But its another option for us anyway, which is always good.

     

     

    Sure, I would have prefered more players, and maybe a couple of big names. But it just doesn´t seem to work out in the long run. It´s better to pay low fees for players, and try to make them better. Paying big sums, for players who won´t increase any in value, just doesn´t appear to be a good strategy long term.

     

     

    We got to where we are, (looking forward to 6 huge games in the Champions League), with this strategy, and I don´t see any good reasons to start changing it now. Of course we want bigger names, and more quality, like any kid who wants more toys or chocolate, but the people in charge have to be responsible. If they start acting like the fans, and making decisions based on their hearts, it will end in disaster. They have to be the ´parents´, and make the responsible, boring decisions.

     

     

    For me, Celtic need to do their upmost to qualify from this group, 3rd if not 2nd. Not saying it will be easy, far from it. But we have seen just how hard these groups are when you are a pot 4 team. The aim is to become a pot 3 team as quickly as possible in my opinion. But we can´t go spending loads to realise this. We have to try to be smarter than the teams around us. Simply trying to spend our way to Champions League success, is a sure way to financial ruin and failure in the long term.

     

     

    Well done to our existing players for last seasons run, and qualifying this season. Good luck to our new guys, and although it will be very tight, the games against Ajax will be a huge contribution to who goes through. But I think our new team are quite cabable of getting positive results in both those games. And I doubt Barcelona and AC Milan are looking at their games against us as an easy 3 points, especially our home games. And lets face it, they need to be looking at securing 12 points, which includes and away win. So it could be a very tight group overall. But I really hope we can get 2nd or 3rd, because we need a lot more co-efficient points to get from pot 4 to pot 3, or things are just going to get even harder for us in europe.

  24. .

     

     

    Paul67..

     

     

    Virgil or Derk mentioned in a article last week that Ajax had lost 2 of their best players..so could Not have been the one that went yesterday..

     

     

    Even better IMO..

     

     

    Summa

  25. 67Heaven … I am Neil Lennon, supporting WEE OSCAR..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors

     

    13:11 on

     

    3 September, 2013

     

    bobby murdoch’s curled-up winklepickers forza oscar and mackenzie

     

     

    12:47 on 3 September, 2013

     

     

    Fair do’s …….. Just feel we should concentrating on the good work the Board are doing, in difficult circumstances, and on our team’s brilliant progress ……. We have enough bigoted critics without all the anti-Board agenda-based shoite from within …..HAIL HAIL

     

     

     

    I dont think its an”Anti board agenda”more like a pro Celtic team agenda.I,and I hope many more think the board have done a great job,its just that sometimes they could do that wee bit more.I hope lessons have been learned for next season and we can have a settled team going for the group stages.

     

    HAIL HAIL to yerself as well.

  26. Palacio67

     

    14:21 on

     

    3 September, 2013

     

    AKBW1888

     

    14:17 on

     

    3 September, 2013

     

     

    Thanks AKBW1888, would be interesting to see how much of an allocation we get for the Amsterdam Arena.

     

     

    HH

     

     

    According to the CPTO, it’s one-five 1/5 (5%) of the Stadium’s capacity.

     

    So for example if the Amsterdam Arena holds 60,000 then the

     

    Hoops should get 1,200. But no doubt a few hundred of them will be

     

    held back for co-operate match packages, in which case these tickets

     

    are going to be scarce like Hen’s teeth.

  27. Could this be the right time to develop the South Stand?

     

     

    50,000 capacity during development would be okay just now, and some of the money is there to do it.

     

     

    We could then have 70,000+ capacity, improved facilities, hotel making money with suites overlooking the pitch… Etc.

     

     

    Coming out of recession, building our reputation again, and becoming a must visit ground for people across Europe.

     

     

    Closing an upper tier for domestic games won’t really change the atmosphere, it worked against Shaktar just fine.

     

     

    Anyway…

     

     

    Pick away at this at will.

  28. It’s great to be in such illustrious footballing company…….and to be there on merit, consistently.

     

     

    Celtic continue to fly the flag for Scottish Football.

     

     

    Huns please take note.

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