Lots of details became available yesterday but if you can drag yourself away from the most gratuitous, concentrate on the dates.
12 December 2012.
One week before the IPO. Material information disclosed to the nomad?
21 June 2012.
Four weeks after Mr Whyte was banned from participating in Scottish football, enabling Newco to exist.
11 months before one of Mr Whyte’s collaborators is proposed as a director of Newco.
What the spivs have done to that club, assisted by the most stupid people to own keyboards and journos on-the-make, is breath-taking. How did the idiots manage to take over? There is a lesson for humanity here.
On a related subject:
“Craig Whyte’s involvement would be hidden from the SFA and SPL”.
Mr Ogilvie, you’re going to need a bigger shredder.
You and your organisation are being openly mocked. What was patently obvious to anyone remotely interested in following events to their logical conclusion a year ago is now evident to all.
I have no interest in you resigning now. All the damage which could have been done to our game due to a lack of penetrative oversight, which is your job, has been done. Your persistence is merely confirmation that the levels of corporate governance at the SFA remain unchanged.
Fans from SPL and SFL clubs found rock among the sand to build foundations on last year. There remains a love of our game, and our clubs, among the detritus, but we have unquestionably been failed by the custodians of our game at Hampden Park, who I am convinced, will again bury their heads in the sand.
There is no going back, no quick fix, no one can put this right. Nothing will ever be the same again. Accept this and move on.
Willie Wallace autobiography, signed copies for those who click below and buy now!! A man, from a team, from a time when the world’s great game worked the way it should.
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The rich man and the camel, is it?
Weeminger, in the context of this discussion, whatever encouragement wealthy people have had down through the two millennia to give money to the Church, what Jesus says in the build up to the camel statement, is that the rich young man needs to “sell your possessions and give the money to the poor”, not to Jesus or his followers or to anyone else as a staging post, but to the poor directly.
As for the camel, it’s a well worn explanation that the needles were the nickname for the gaps in the wall of Jerusalem, possible to get through, one at a time.
It’s always struck me that, since Jesus said this, we who are rich have constantly rushed around trying to find ways of justifying the argument that Jesus doesn’t mean the kind of needle you sew with, doesn’t mean what he seems to mean.
Let me just point out three things.
It fits that the needle was the nickname given to the inlets in the wall of Jerusalem that a camel could just squeeze through after the gate was closed for the day if it was completely unloaded of all the worldly goods it was carrying. Yes. But in Matthew (19), Mark (10) and Luke (18), all three synoptic accounts, Jesus does not say “pass through a needle”. He says “through the eye of a needle”.
Next, is that all three synoptic Gospels place this discussion miles from Jerusalem, in the part of Samaria close to Galilee, or possibly in Transjordania. Had he been sitting with a crowd of people looking up at the wall of Jerusalem, the softer explanation would make some sense, but this was nowhere near the city, at least 50 kilometres away, and Jerusalem had not come up in the discussion.
Last, in all three accounts, the reaction of those listening is astonishment and they ask, “Who can be saved then?” This would tee up the explanation about unloading your camels of all the worldly possessions and then they would be able to squeeze through one at a time. But Jesus doesn’t say that. He says that for people it’s impossible, but for God all is possible.
Sorry to go on at such length. And like most things, this has come up on CQN before, but the words are there, in all three accounts. They say what they say.
TBJ-Ha HH
sipsini-“looks like i picked the wrong week to give up ice cream”
Airplanecsc
CorkCelt, are you not on here much late on a Friday or Saturday night?
This is coherent discussion in comparison.
Kikinthenakas, Hiya doing pal, I know a lot of the time we just end up speaking to ourselves on here but tonight seems particularly bad, there is no cohesion or no real subject matter at all. You are probably right everyone is just hanging around making small talk waiting for Charlotte to turn up.
Paul67 et al
So Beckham has retired. Good example of how practice makes, not perfect, but a top professional footballer. Two matches stick in my mind. First up Tommy Boyd’s testimonial, which coincided sadly with Bobby Murdoch passing, full house but with a shroud hanging over Celtic Park. Affected all of us, not least the players. After the match though Beckham was wearing the Hoops. Second up, this time at Old Trafford for Ryan Giggs testimonial, Celtic not being messed around this time out, Beckham slammed up against the hoarding near the far corner flag at our end. A combination of Sutton and Lambert if I remember correctly. Heard Neil Sullivan was and is celebrating.
STAIRHEEDRAMMY…did they actually ask for an extension to the bans ? This is what happens in a “celtic supporter hating society”the sooner folks realise this then hopefully we can do something bout it
#standupforthebannedbhoysCSC
Corkcelt
I am doing good, playing golf tomorrow and hitting the ball quite well, putting no bad…..but…..as you know that was last week! Anything could happen tomorrow!
You any plans to come back over?
Kikinthenakas
Hi Zbyszek,
Hope you are well?
Any truth in the rumour that Celtic have done a deal with Lech Poznan for the Bulgarian striker Aleksandar Tonev.
H!H!
Rod got the hoops jersey with him now
celtic mac
I was at that game .
He got up and smiled.
He knew he was not in a friendly.
a wee song whilst you wait :
http://youtu.be/fh7UyXL9YAc
shoulder2shoulder :
Welcome to CQN. Now that we’ve established you’re probably not a hun, let’s get down to brass tacks.
Where do you stand on the Toasted/Roasted cheese issue?
neganon2
19:22 on 16 May, 2013
MacAvennie is a thick tube
Mmmmmmm as they say
I would prefer to think of Frankie Bhoy as a Dennis Hopper type character.
A patchy performance on SSB I grant you.
BT
Singers at the KSC tomorrow ?
Corkcelt..sometimes the blog goes this way..hey ho ..relax ..enjoy hh
TBJ
Jhst a quiet nught wuth the old yin
Mother back from Spain on Saturday
The Boy Jinky
19:13 on 16 May, 2013
Rocket
Heard guidi state that in his opinion rangers are same team with 55 titles. .. caller said he had e mailed uefa and they stated sevco have one D3 title. Rangers are out for 54
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Dear The Boy Jinky
I wish to object to your exaggerated overstatement of the titles attributed to the old Rangers club.
The correct total is 53 1/2 as their first title was shared with Dunbarton and should be recognised as such.
Natknow…more of a toast n chopped pork man myself HH
Always thought Beckham was a good guy. Made the most of his talent.Clean cut Celtic type IMO.
Used to laugh when I went a few days without shaving. My mother would say, ‘you look like a right dirty bu&&er , like that Rankers player, Hately.’
That put down made me get the razor right out!
BT
Is the auld yin on taxi duty saturday again
Yip…
The Damned United on BBC 4 very good if you not seen it
Hrvatsi
But …. but … but …. bbbbbbbbbuuuuuutttttt… erm …. Rangers deserved the title more because ray arra peepo
NatKnow
Toasted cheese, no ifs, buts or maybes about it.
KTF
HH
Celtic_First
21:11 on
16 May, 2013
The rich man and the camel, is it?
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That was a very interesting explanation.Tks
Bada
The Fighter on film 4 … excellent
burghbhoy
21:30 on 16 May, 2013
Used to laugh when I went a few days without shaving. My mother would say, ‘you look like a right dirty bu&&er , like that Rankers player, Hately.’
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Were you going for the ‘serial killer on the run’ look?:-)
shoulder2shoulder
21:29 on
16 May, 2013
Natknow…more of a toast n chopped pork man myself HH
Oooft!
BT
Im just glad im not under the thumb like your da …..
Off to hide under the bed now ;)
mighty tim
21:34 on
16 May, 2013
NatKnow
Toasted cheese, no ifs, buts or maybes about it.
Double ooft!!
TBJ -Sky +
Burghbhoy
Having stubble is like a new signing.
Poyet definitely worth a punt to Everton…watch the odds.
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
praecepta
Thank you, I’m well. I hope you are well too.
I’m pretty sure that Aleksandar Tonev deal is not done. The player was injured but will play against my Legia Warsaw on Saturday.
What player Tonev is?
He is a winger, very often going from the left to the centre. Not bad for Polish Ekstraliga standard but I doubt he is the player of Champions League team.
That info about Celtic interested in Tonev came from Bulgarian press. Bulgarian press and agents are well know for giving fake information about their players.
Of CL team standard, should stand.
Zbyszek
Evening my friend.
Who are Celtic watching then?
zbyszek
21:40 on 16 May, 2013
Bulgarian press and agents are well know for giving fake information about their players.
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Thank god we live in a country that has a free, impartial, without fear or favour press!! :-) )))