Lots of details became available yesterday but if you can drag yourself away from the most gratuitous, concentrate on the dates.
12 December 2012.
One week before the IPO. Material information disclosed to the nomad?
21 June 2012.
Four weeks after Mr Whyte was banned from participating in Scottish football, enabling Newco to exist.
11 months before one of Mr Whyte’s collaborators is proposed as a director of Newco.
What the spivs have done to that club, assisted by the most stupid people to own keyboards and journos on-the-make, is breath-taking. How did the idiots manage to take over? There is a lesson for humanity here.
On a related subject:
“Craig Whyte’s involvement would be hidden from the SFA and SPL”.
Mr Ogilvie, you’re going to need a bigger shredder.
You and your organisation are being openly mocked. What was patently obvious to anyone remotely interested in following events to their logical conclusion a year ago is now evident to all.
I have no interest in you resigning now. All the damage which could have been done to our game due to a lack of penetrative oversight, which is your job, has been done. Your persistence is merely confirmation that the levels of corporate governance at the SFA remain unchanged.
Fans from SPL and SFL clubs found rock among the sand to build foundations on last year. There remains a love of our game, and our clubs, among the detritus, but we have unquestionably been failed by the custodians of our game at Hampden Park, who I am convinced, will again bury their heads in the sand.
There is no going back, no quick fix, no one can put this right. Nothing will ever be the same again. Accept this and move on.
Willie Wallace autobiography, signed copies for those who click below and buy now!! A man, from a team, from a time when the world’s great game worked the way it should.
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Its ROASTED cheese… Nae toastin on the back side!! Amadans, the loata ye.
An white pepper… Nane of yer middle class black pepper grindins
Ah give up
Very very disappointed
Sipsini- it was the riot by strathclydes finest at the GB Gallowgate march
BT
Good evening. I hope all is well.
You mean: will be watching on Saturday when at the game Legia : Lech?
Zbyszek
21:40
Thanks for your reply – just a whisper that the Club might have some people in Poland at the weekend looking at a few players.
H!H!
Crushed nuts.
Yeah mate, didn’t realise what I was doing . My auld ma kept me right though, nothing like being compared to a Sevconian to make u shape up!!
In my defence , I was drunk at the time…..from aged 18 through to 23!
Yes Zbyszek. Your match , who would you recommend?
hope legia go on and win the league this season.
Shoulder2Shoulder- they did ask for an extension- to all of the bans- none agreed to today- said it was to prevent trouble
excathedra44
21:34
Thanks.
praecepta
Celtic scouts will be watching Legia vs Lech on Saturday. Few young players are worth their time for sure. Pleanty is happening on Polish market now. Couple of young footballers are playing here. Their natural way is Germany at the moment. Borussia with three Polish players in first XI is good example for others.
Bread should be toasted in toaster.
Then cheese applied on top..with a range of toppings
Select one or more from the following
A) brown sauce
B) wee tomatoes cut in half
C) tomato sauce
D) cooked sliced sausage
E) middle class freshly ground pepper
Under grill until cheese bubbles.. Remove from grill
This isn’t any old cheese and toast.. This ….is….Cqn …delicious …hand toasted..cheese ..and ..toast
M&s csc
Kikinthenakas, No definite plans at the moment but if anything changes I’ll let you know. I have a game myself in the morning, anything could happen.
Electronic Tims @ETimsNet 5m
2 mins 35 onwards. Does Farage say “Protestant, a persecuted minority”? http://www.youtube.com/watch?nomobile=1&v=bMZ55ZJHllQ …
He does indeed say it
Congratulations to those students, my heartfelt thanks
Paul Shane R.I.P.
Bye di Bye
http://www.teamtalk.com/news/3018/8645154/Tonev-open-to-joining-Celtic
@TomSelleckCSC: Early reports Celtic have sign 23-year-old Bulgarian winger Aleksandar Tonev from Lech Poznan.
Have we signed a goalie yet?
johann murdoch
21:58 on
16 May, 2013
are you tryin to intimidate me ;)
such a list of abominations I’ve not seen since the hun teamsheet circa 1998…
“wee tomatoes cut in half”…
on ROASTED CHEESE???
no that it bothers me… please yerself… chuck some coriander in yer stovies annaw
BT
For some of our players Celtic might be too late.
Goalkeeper Kuciak (28) has offers from Napoli and West Ham.
Centre Back Jedrzejczyk (25) has offer from Genoa and from Russia
Playmaker Furman (20) , very good player but I’m not sure if he will play on Saturday.
Kosecki (22)winger, interest from Galatasaray and two clubs from Spain
Zyro (20) left winger, will not play, going to Hannover
Lukasik (22) Holding midfielder, In my opinion similar or better than Brown
Bereszynski (20) excellent right back.
Bereszynski came from Lech in January. It’s interesting story. His family is from Poznan. His father is Lech legend. The player was not treated well there and decided to sign contract with us. He was the straker in Poznan but our coach changed his position to right back. Piszczek, before the move to Borussia was the striker in Poland. Many compare Bereszynski to Piszczek from Borussia.
I could name few young good talents from other Polish clubs.
Lech have good CB Kaminski (21) and playmaker or attacking midfielder Linetty (18)
Anybody got any stats on wee Atajic from the u20’s?
Seems to be on the scoresheet every game more or less… noticed he was on the first team subs bench a couple of weeks ago and hearing very good things about him. Anybody any info?
Fifa president Sepp Blatter says it is “not rational” to play football in the heat of the Qatari summer, as planned for the 2020 World Cup.
Em, no – it’s not rational to hold the thing in Qatar at all.
And a crackin goal from the bhoy
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xv2sxg_bahrudin-atajic-amazing-goal-u20-celtic-vs-hearts_sport
magic darts on sky
MVG 9-8 v Taylor, first to 10
Saint Stivs
19:20 on
16 May, 2013
ignoring the fact they are a new club and dont have 3 years accounts,
if rangers had reached the cup final, and qualified for a european space, would they get the co-efficient points of Rangers oldco …………
EM NAW.
someone ask clyde for me, i couldnt without losing the rag.
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The requirement for 3 years accounts is not actually the UEFA rule. The UEFA rule states:
A licence applicant may only be a football club, i.e. a legal entity fully responsible for a football team participating in national and international competitions which either:
a) is a registered member of a UEFA member association and/or its affiliated league (hereinafter: registered member); or
b) has a contractual relationship with a registered member (hereinafter: football company).
2 The membership and the contractual relationship (if any) must have lasted – at the start of the licence season – for at least three consecutive years. Any alteration to the club’s legal form or company structure (including, for example, changing its headquarters, name or club colours, or transferring stakeholdings
between different clubs) during this period in order to facilitate its qualification on sporting merit and/or its receipt of a licence to the detriment of the integrity of a competition is deemed as an interruption of membership or contractual relationship (if any) within the meaning of this provision.
From this it is quite clear that UEFA, had The Rangers been put forward for a UEFA competition, would have said NO because a change to Rangers legal form and company structure had clearly taken place and the SFA had not put forward a well founded case to grant an exception (as a further rule allows to cover unusual case by case circumstances).
The SFA decided there was no point making any exemption case because there was also the matter of the lack of audited account and unpaid social tax (which is a one year exclusion if dealt with) and that was given by them as the reason why Rangers would not be granted a UEFA licence NOT that The Rangers also failed the above UEFA rule that covers restructuring that impacts the integrity of their competition
UEFA’s default position is that a club that changes its corporate structure has had its association membership broken as far as qualification for UEFA competition goes unless it can be shown that it does not impact on the integrity of their competition. The last thing the SFA considered in the 5 way agreement was the integrity of their own competition and in that sense were in breach of the principle the UEFA rule stood for.
The unpaid tax/unaudited accounts was a convenient way of avoiding the risk of UEFA saying they did not recognise The Rangers as the same legal entity which allowed the SFA to obsfuscate on the issue and bargain with Charles Green.
From the SFA approach it could be deduced that someone at the SFA who knew the rules had decided they could not make a case for The Rangers being the same legal entity and it suited SFA marketing and bargaining purposes not to bring this out at the time the UEFA question was being asked..
I must confess to being unaware of the SFA’s approach until recently but under the above 3 year history of association membership rule The Rangers are a different legal entity and so different club from Rangers and only UEFA can change that distinction, but only if the SFA make/made a well founded case.
Rangers supporters will say, quite rightly, that the SFA are treating them as the same members and they are, but not in accordance with the principles clearly defined and circumstances catered for by UEFA rules.
UEFA are probably aware of this but have bowed to the SFA’s desire to keep the waters muddied for commercial reasons and/or Rangers having friends at UEFA.
The interesting thing is that everyone including the media and indeed Rangers talks of a three year exclusion from Europe but on the grounds you stated i.e 3 years accounts required. This is not so, 3 years unbrokem association membership is the requirement THEN audited accounts/ paid taxes etc ANNUALLY to get a UEFA licence.
It would have been very interesting, had The Rangers been voted back into the SPL and gained a qualifying league position the next season and produced audited accounts during it, to see if the SFA having put them forward, would UEFA have said no to a licence. Given the nature of the debt in social taxes form that had been dodged by the restructuring I think it safe to say UEFA would have said NO as The Rangers did not have three years association history under the above rule meaning they were a different club.
Like many others, including yourself, I thought it was the inability to produce 3 years of accounts that was the reason, but on digging deeper to refute a case being made on Paul McConville’s blog it became clear the issue was they were not a legal entity that UEFA recognised with the requisite 3 year national association membership.
But as long as the SFA and LNS ignore the football authority of UEFA who have turned a blind eye to the principle behind their rule being broken. you will be unable to change the minds of those who cling to the myth.
The principle btw is to stop clubs doing EXACTLY what Rangers did i.e use insolvency rules to dodge responsibilities, being given access to UEFA competition and by so doing damage the integrity of the competition.
It is a sad indictment of football authority at SFA level that they were prepared to sacrifice sporting integrity on the altar of commercialism ,but also an indictment of UEFA that they have not pronounced disagreement with the SFA position.
stairheedrammy
21:45 on 16 May, 2013
Ye I know.
I was only highlighting all us cqn wrinkleys at the demo:-)
Thanks Zbyszek. We miss your posts.
How did the wee job go?
johann murdoch
I seem to remember the old Cheese-on-Toast discussion on here about a year ago. The poster talked about the thick end (heal/heel) of a plain loaf toasted with cheese & tomato with pepper and remember thinking all thats missing is the Worcestershire sauce and he has my favourite supper.
Very highly recommended.
ttt,
And how long have rich Masonic arseholes been trying to convince humanity that yours is the definitive interpretation, I’ll hazard since the crusades
Doc is Neil Lennon
20:08 on
16 May, 2013
Ha ha, they say one man doesn’t make a team, well it did tonight and it wisne you or HT!
Young Kev the ball juggler had his shooting boots on tonight
Well done bhoys, you did well sitting on his shoulders :-)
Totally jiggered after tonight as Lionsroars67 kept the goalie role to himself again
Good game, but lots of pain!
HH
CRC
Mrs BT made me cheesey toast today..o))
the legend johnny doyle
That debate was revisited a couple of weeks ago.
White bread, toasted on one side, cheese, not half fat stuff, and red onion, thinly sliced.
Salt and white pepper, Worcestershire sauce is a decent alternative.
Perfect supper.
Johann murdoch..
Received my renewal form today,Got £200 of my ST, I’ll be rich. I also got word from New Zealand that I was getting my money back re bookings, also got my money returned from a booking I cancelled when I took ill. And to crown it all, Dr gave me the all clear re pnemonia.
Toasted Cheese debate
Two slices of pan bread (preferred white) in toaster
Thick covering of cheese on both
Melt under grill until bubbling
Place three slices of grilled bacon on one piece of toast
Liberally smother in pepper and Lea & Perrins and press home other piece of toast on top
Robert’s yer maw’s brother
In other matters MVG takes out 132 (25, T19, bull) to win 10-8 while Taylor sitting on tops
Super game of darts, the torch is now passed.
blantyretim
I’m just translating someting fromPolish to Russian.
Busy with work for two months for free. Have hope that Mr. Manager from big company will keep the promise valid. Will know more in two weeks, hopefuly.
If they take me, I will be back where life was hard but not passable.
Sky claiming that Beckham is the world’s most famous player. Not sure about that but probably the richest. Good player but he’d be nowhere near the world’s top 100 of all time.(imo)
Oldtim
Told you it would be refunded. You never listen to me do you?
but passable, of course
Back in from being oot.
Some mighty fine vino was partaken.
Has Charlotte dropped her panties again ?
Oldtim
Excellent news all round.