It’s not often CQN quotes the Daily Record, so hold onto your bonnets……….
Most of us have been watching the old media/new media for years. Actual news is now well and truly in the domain of the new media but when it comes to some matters, the authority of the old media seems to be greater than the new.
Think back to those scenes at Inverness last year when Jelly ‘n’ Ice Cream was given its first outing. That reaction came after the Daily Record put their weight behind the notion that many of us had been saying for weeks/months/years, that Rangers were going out of business. It wasn’t actual news, everyone had heard the same stories many times, but when the Record went on-record, the remaining doubters were convinced.
Viewed through this prism, when today’s Record raises the spectre of police and liquidator action, even the most sceptical must know things are serious. This morning they urge Newco’s chairman Malcolm Murray to:
“Tell the stock market his board understands the explosive nature of Whyte’s claims and that they are on top of their duties. He should order his own investigation, hire independent accountants and lawyers to examine all evidence, while co-operating in full with the police and with liquidators BDO.
“That’s the kind of decisive action Murray should be taking this morning and I suspect it’s precisely what he wants to do. But if he does not emerge at some point today or tomorrow then it means he is being undermined by his fellow directors who have baulked when implored by him to do the right thing.
“His allies – if any – should go with him because if they share his concerns but fail to act upon them they too risk massive reputational damage. Maybe even worse than that if the police become involved. That’s how serious the situation has become”.
The allegations made by Craig Whyte last week are more serious than any charge previously levelled at a football club board in Scotland, infinitely more serious than what has been alleged about Craig Whyte, Sir David Murray or Campbell Ogilvie. They have, of course, come from a man who has been shown to be liberal with his use of facts, but they have been made about Green, who has admitted he tells people what they want to hear in order to get his way.
The Record have also realised the consequences of Green and Whyte colluding during the administration process:
“Green was eventually allowed to pick up the club’s assets for the paltry figure of £5.5m. A deal agreed with Duff and Phelps which excluded rival bids from any other party.
This was as unfathomable agreement that may have cost creditors millions – and which was triggered the second Green’s group stumped up enough money to secure preferred bidder status.
Now it has been further claimed that in order to help scramble that deposit together, Whyte dumped £137,500 into an account belonging to Ahmad’s mother.
Again, this will be of great interest to the authorities because, essentially, this was the very moment Green and his backers were given a clean run at picking up a £50m business for a pittance.”
Newco’s independent non-executive directors, including the chairman, are in a difficult position. If they were not previously aware of the collusion between Green and Whyte they may be of a mind to resign, but as non-execs, it was their job to look after the interests of stakeholders before the smelly stuff lands, which they have clearly failed to do.
Scottish football has had a troublesome couple of years as it prepared for and dealt with the consequences of the liquidation of Rangers. Unless Whyte’s claims can be proven to be without foundation, and unless BDO take a kind view of Charles Green’s agreement with Craig Whyte, the months ahead will at least provide some finality. Stewart Gilmour at St Mirren will have a great deal to think about ahead of his board meeting on Wednesday.
Just think, without so many people backing Charles Green the ‘Rangers’ brand could be in the hands of Brian Kennedy right now! If you see someone preaching the gospel according to Charles Green, don’t try to undermine their faith.
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Afternoon all. Haven’t been able to get on to CQN this afternoon. Were we broke? I imagine folk were wanting to give their take on the DR’s telling us what we knew last year and were roundly condemned as internet bampots for telling the true story. Let’s hope the polis can no longer ignore the flagrant abuse of right conduct by those running the deadybears and that BDO really try and claw back all the monies they can to reimburse those creditors who have been defrauded.
This is so enjoyable. You really couldn’t make it up. Thank you messrs SDM, Whyte and Green.
stephenpollock
Not the first time you have failed to gauge the mood of the Celtic support when making your own crass comment.
You might want to consider not attending the next game if this sort of thing is going to bother you. Just advice, not censorship.
Paul,
not only did she break the blog, she broke society ….
“A broken society, yes. But broken by Thatcher”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/jan/29/social-mobility-inequality-conservative-thatcher
Not speaking ill of the dead – just stating facts.
Hail! Hail!
DavieL
Those of you who detested thatchers work should work to reverse it. That’s the way to stick it to her and her acolytes.
As the man said – the point is to change it.
I’ll toast those she trampled on rather than her passing.
testing
Afternoon all
I have to say I find it hard to celebrate Thatcher’s passing. I actually do find it distasteful to celebrate an old woman’s passing.
I didn’t like her and can think of so many things I think she was wrong about, the horrible hectoring style of oratory, the genuine harm she did to this country and our neighbours , the cosying up to Rupert Murdoch and General Pinochet . Why should I celebrate her death?
Slainte
Jimbo
Paul67 –
Sadly, I think Green is finished. We can only hope he continues to receive the backing of the Zombies though, as Sevco follow follow Rangers towards liquidation.
No hearse for Thatcher. Her coffin will be carried in a yuill & dodds truck, at 50 mph, through every village in Ayrshire & fife.
I believe that one day all of us will be answerable to our maker,today is Thatchers turn,I wouldn’t like to be in her shoes.I will leave it like that.I need to watch my blood pressure.TAL.
What`s happened to the Post split fixtures ,then? I thought they were being released today.
JJ ( Who, whilst understanding the Thatcher intrest, is fed uo with it already).
Must say I’ve only ever hated 3 people in my life. They were Mo Johnston, Nacho Novo & Margaret Thatcher. I will today pray for forgiveness for hating anyone and will pray for the ten who died. I wish I could live my Faith and forgive Thatcher but I can’t. Thatcher dead come on the Bhoys next Sunday, The Treble is back on.
35 years to late I say.An evil stuck up woman,I loathes her with a vengence.
I’m enjoying fragments if jf you’re out there- not what you’d call easy reading mind
corkcelt
17:35 on
8 April, 2013
Must say I’ve only ever hated 3 people in my life. They were Mo Johnston, Nacho Novo & Margaret Thatcher. I will today pray for forgiveness for hating anyone and will pray for the ten who died. I wish I could live my Faith and forgive Thatcher but I can’t. Thatcher dead come on the Bhoys next Sunday, The Treble is back on.
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agree , but can we add McCoist
237 thoughts on “Newco, the Record and the police”
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14:16 on
8 April, 2013
stephenBollocks 14.06
No apologies
ASonOfDan
14:16 on
8 April, 2013
stephenpollock
The last we will be hearing from you today?
Ever go through the humiliation of working on the ‘Manpower Scheme’ and trying to feed your family off the wages?
No?
Shut it then!
jude2005 is Neil Lennon \o/
14:19 on
8 April, 2013
Her 2 bratts wernt much better btw!!
Stringer Bell
14:19 on
8 April, 2013
From the Independent today. A to Elaine of thatchers life. Spot the mistake.
1980- October: The first modern hunger strike organised by Provisional IRA prisoners ended after 53 days, with Thatcher’s government appearing to concede on demands for the return of ‘special category status’ and privileges.
1980- October: Gives “the lady is not for turning” speech at the Conservative party conference, in which she states her refusal to pull a U-turn on economic liberalisation and counter-inflationary policies such as controlling interest rates to restrict the money supply. This would become her trademark motto.
1981 – March 1: IRA members begin a second hunger strike. During the strike, inmate Bobby Sands is elected as an MP; but Thatcher refuses concessions, declaring that ‘crime is crime, not political’. Sands dies on May 5, after 66 days. Riots follow in Northern Ireland and 100,000 attend his funeral. The world’s attention captured. Seven more would die of self-enforced starvation before the end of the strike on 20 August. Yet Thatcher’s position remained galvanised towards the IRA and was seen as a victory.
Stringer Bell
14:20 on
8 April, 2013
A timeline
stephenpollock
14:20 on
8 April, 2013
Setting free the bears – I’m not at all surprised by your crass response – not everyone (including me) can be clever all of the time.
Celtic supporters pride themselves on their kindness, compassion and charity efforts but on other hand are on here to celebrate the death of an old lady. It is bizarre, shameful, undignifying and very un-Celtic (in my opinion).
Sandman
14:20 on
8 April, 2013
Green Lantern (((((0)))))
14:15 on 8 April, 2013
Sandman. Aye, but watch oot for the flying monkeys!
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DING-DONG!
Paul67
15:19 on
8 April, 2013
Thatcher broke the blog………..
!!Bada Bing!!
17:08 on
8 April, 2013
Podium?
sipsini
17:09 on
8 April, 2013
We’re back,thank god thatcher wont.
mcgrory1888
17:11 on
8 April, 2013
Who broke the blog then???
Here is the reply I got from my MSP.
Dear Mr xxxxxxx,
Thank you for your email. I have in fact written to the Chief Constable of Police Scotland about this matter already. I will send you a copy of this letter, and write to you again once I have secured a reply from him. Once you have sight of this correspondence, if you continue to have concerns then please do not hesitate to let me know and I will gladly look into the matter further.
Yours,
Jamie Hepburn MSP
More to follow……
GlassTwoThirdsFull
17:11 on
8 April, 2013
She broke everything else!
ernie lynch
17:12 on
8 April, 2013
There’s to be no marking of Thatcher’s death at the Manchester game tonight.
Though maybe the fans will pay their own respects.
oldtim67
17:13 on
8 April, 2013
Paul67 etal.
Can’t get on too CQN so decided to write a post instead.
I was fair proud to be a Celtic Supporter after going to Gearge Square on Saturday and seeing such a massive turn out, I met so many like friends, too many to name individually,but I wish everyone, all the best.
Nice to see, and speak to Kilbowie Kelt, last time was in Babbity Bowsters when we had a meeting to choose new organisers re the Kano Charity,that was quite a long time ago now, but I remembered his blogging name when he asked me, I always complain about my memory starting to fade so you must have left a lasting impression on me, to remember after such a long time.
I enjoyed the game on Saturday,and it was good to see the crowd enjoying themselves for a change,we really haven’t had much to smile about lately,but it was an entertaining game for a change,Maybe it was the passing of Craigie Whyte round the park that got us into a cheery mood and it last for me into the early evening where I had a drink with a few good friends, Well I hope they are still good friends,I don’t think I was that good company,when my medication started to ware out off my system,but it wasn’t enough to dull my day, I enjoyed every minute of my Saturday in town.
I had to get back to Wishaw and was standing waiting on the train when a guy came up to me and asked if he could give me some advice,I said what did he want,he said can’t you put your programme in an inside pocket,you don’t want to be showing that on this train,I thought it was a bit over the top but put in my inside pocket just in case,at Bridgeton a couple of 16-17 year olds came on the train and within a couple of minutes there was the sound of the sash coming from a phone, and it was these two kids with smirks on their hunnish faces,I knew it was them as they were ugly,that carried on until Bellshill where they enlighted from the train, they wonder why they are hated so much?. I wish I had been 30 years younger I’d have wiped the smile of their face.
Glendalystonsils likes a mr whippy with his lime green jelly
17:13 on
8 April, 2013
The ghost of Maggie Thatcher pulled the CQN plug out. She was obviously annoyed by all you guys saying nasty things about a dear old lady. :)
jc2
17:14 on
8 April, 2013
And your back in the room !
Kayal33
17:14 on
8 April, 2013
As Elvis Costello said….
I saw a newspaper picture from the political campaign
A woman was kissing a child, who was obviously in pain
She spills with compassion, as that young childs
Face in her hands she grips
Can you imagine all that greed and avarice
Coming down on that childs lips
Well I hope I don’t die too soon
I pray the lord my soul to save
Oh I’ll be a good boy, Im trying so hard to behave
Because there’s one thing I know, I’d like to live
Long enough to savour
That’s when they finally put you in the ground
Ill stand on your grave and tramp the dirt down
When england was the whore of the world
Margeret was her madam
And the future looked as bright and as clear as
The black tarmacadam
Well I hope that she sleeps well at night, isnt
Haunted by every tiny detail
Cos when she held that lovely face in her hands
All she thought of was betrayal
And now the cynical ones say that it all ends the same in the long run
Try telling that to the desperate father who just squeezed the life from his only son
And how it’s only voices in your head and dreams you never dreamt
Try telling him the subtle difference between justice and contempt
Try telling me she isn’t angry with this pitiful discontent
When they flaunt it in your face as you line up for punishment
And then expect you to say thank you straighten up, look proud and pleased
Because youve only got the symptoms, you haven’t got the whole disease
Just like a schoolboy, whose heads like a tin-can
Filled up with dreams then poured down the drain
Try telling that to the boys on both sides, being blown to bits or beaten and maimed
Who takes all the glory and none of the shame
Well I hope you live long now, I pray the lord your soul to keep
I think I’ll be going before we fold our arms and start to weep
I never thought for a moment that human life could be so cheap
Cos when they finally put you in the ground
They’ll stand there laughing and tramp the dirt down
danso_1888
17:15 on
8 April, 2013
any one see charlie interview about his racist language? its on stv website, my god hard to believe he could have made things worse but just watch it and see.
notthebus
17:17 on
8 April, 2013
Chalis signing his own resignation letter
http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/rangers/220617-charles-green-defends-paki-comment-but-would-punish-players-for-using-it/
notthebus
17:21 on
8 April, 2013
Twitter reeling from the sad demise of Cher now that the following hashtag is trending worldwide
#nowthatchersisdead
leftclicktic
17:22 on
8 April, 2013
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/45966
NO state funeral petition
danso_1888
17:23 on
8 April, 2013
i am coming round to the idea he is for the off soon, newco rangers men shall emerge from the debt laden oldco farce, jabba new mcoist new all along this has been the plan
i have a feeling dave king has a lot to do with what has went on and will aim to be the boss
and murray agreed to this all along, remember murray paid a visit to ally under the guise of medical check up, o yes ally has known all along and jabba got his reward also from murray.
!!Bada Bing!!
17:25 on
8 April, 2013
P67- I thought you had been sold off :)
kelvinbhoy
17:25 on
8 April, 2013
When’s the fixtures oot. Was thinking that we have been told over the years that we could have a title decider if it was not Celtic and Rangers. Any chance we can get Murderwell at Paradise giving as many fans as possible the chance to see the title wrapped up….nah, didnae think so either!!!!
leftclicktic
17:27 on
8 April, 2013
notthebus
17:17 on
8 April, 2013
Has Charles been at the shandy , he looks bothered
skywalker
17:27 on
8 April, 2013
SPL Post split fixtures ..anyone????
!!Bada Bing!!
17:28 on
8 April, 2013
Going by some of her Cabinet on news channels,she won’t be waiting long for company
sipsini
17:28 on
8 April, 2013
cliftonville celt from belfast
Enjoy your birthday.
A poisonous woman goes and newco about to go deadco.
Che
17:28 on
8 April, 2013
Sky news:
West Beal Feirste would like to report the current status of baroness thatcher is satisfactory.
Parkheadcumsalford
17:29 on
8 April, 2013
Afternoon all. Haven’t been able to get on to CQN this afternoon. Were we broke? I imagine folk were wanting to give their take on the DR’s telling us what we knew last year and were roundly condemned as internet bampots for telling the true story. Let’s hope the polis can no longer ignore the flagrant abuse of right conduct by those running the deadybears and that BDO really try and claw back all the monies they can to reimburse those creditors who have been defrauded.
This is so enjoyable. You really couldn’t make it up. Thank you messrs SDM, Whyte and Green.
setting free the bears
17:29 on
8 April, 2013
stephenpollock
Not the first time you have failed to gauge the mood of the Celtic support when making your own crass comment.
You might want to consider not attending the next game if this sort of thing is going to bother you. Just advice, not censorship.
DavieL
17:29 on
8 April, 2013
Paul,
not only did she break the blog, she broke society ….
“A broken society, yes. But broken by Thatcher”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/jan/29/social-mobility-inequality-conservative-thatcher
Not speaking ill of the dead – just stating facts.
Hail! Hail!
DavieL
RobertTressell
17:30 on
8 April, 2013
Those of you who detested thatchers work should work to reverse it. That’s the way to stick it to her and her acolytes.
As the man said – the point is to change it.
I’ll toast those she trampled on rather than her passing.
martin42
17:31 on
8 April, 2013
testing
jimbo67
17:32 on
8 April, 2013
Afternoon all
I have to say I find it hard to celebrate Thatcher’s passing. I actually do find it distasteful to celebrate an old woman’s passing.
I didn’t like her and can think of so many things I think she was wrong about, the horrible hectoring style of oratory, the genuine harm she did to this country and our neighbours , the cosying up to Rupert Murdoch and General Pinochet . Why should I celebrate her death?
Slainte
Jimbo
Steinreignedsupreme
17:32 on
8 April, 2013
Paul67 –
Sadly, I think Green is finished. We can only hope he continues to receive the backing of the Zombies though, as Sevco follow follow Rangers towards liquidation.
Che
17:33 on
8 April, 2013
No hearse for Thatcher. Her coffin will be carried in a yuill & dodds truck, at 50 mph, through every village in Ayrshire & fife.
drove to GATWICK to fly out to SEVILLE.passed 2 of their lorries on A1 scarf and TRI. and MEXIAN HAT on back window of car. gave them a wee toot toot!!!
Thatcher dies today and over here there is a monsoon and a thunderstorm – the first in months!
Yesterday was the warmest and sunniest day this year!
HH!!
Tom Courtney – Immature mate but hey I’m a man not a child so your insult reflects badly on you.
Sonofdan – actually the answer to your question is yes (an answer you do not wish to hear).
Geez the two of you are an afront to what Celtic stands for and it seems you wish to deny me an opinion because it differs from yours. At end of day spouting hateful comments of a dead old woman is disgraceful/immature and I’m sure our founding Father’s would agree. It brings shame to this site.
sorry sorry sorry PAUL.i only meant to put CHE’S comment on view.
blog finally back
so the iron lady is gone
i know its not right to speak ill of the dead
but the belgrano, the hungerstrikers,the miners
a very ruthless women that held peace back in ireland by her presence for a decade
could the triple crown be on in 2013??????????
the demise of rangers , thatcher and paisley
jelly and icecream all the way
woo hoo
We should spare a thought for Charlie Nicholas at this sad time.
That’s you less than a favourite uncle now.
I have donated the money raised on Saturday to Mary’s Meals.
I contacted Paul67 as agreed, he suggested this charity, hope everyone agrees, if not, well tough, it’s done;-)
£277 to a great charity.
Here is a link to their website where you can see the great work they do.
http://www.marysmeals.org.uk/
I have sent a copy of the receipt to Paul67 and Moonbeams, just for the sake probity.
stephenpollock
“I’m sure our founding Father’s (sic) would agree.”
You co-opt a lot of people to your view without the preliminary of actually seeking their view.
I am sure Snobby Roberts would approve of that approach.
CHE.meant to add i did not hang about for a reply.
doc
Excellent charity,well done HH
Mrs Thatcher now stands before the final Court. She will answer for her actions.
In Ireland, there’s a long standing tradition of not speaking ill of the dead. I won’t gloat in anyone’s death, I do not mourn her passing.
FanandPatriot, collective effort mate, I just handed it over.
Stephenpollock – I’m with you mate – I’m not political in any shape or form but quite certain there is nothing to be gained by celebrating the death of an old lady, very un-Celtic like imo.
Watching the BBC’s fawning appraisal of someone who was allowed to reap havoc on the lives of ordinary folk. She looked after her own with the iron fist of the state being shown to the working class…know your place was her mantra……The selective right wing gobshites being wheeled out to say a good word is revolting…….. good riddance !
Ding dong the witch is dead
Doc is Neil Lennon
Thank you
Hope Miss Doc is well today
I’d jump for joy at Thatchers passing were it not for my fragile bones brought about by a lack of milk as a child…
Come on lhads, without Maggie we would never have had Ben Elton!
On second thoughts….!
Thatcher lacked compassion on an industrial scale, and as such she deserves no sympathy in return.
That fact that so many people the length of these islands and beyond are genuinely happy about her death tells its own story. Thatcher was truly wicked. There are so many reasons to despise her.
I will raise a glass to the millions who suffered as a result of Thatcher’s ideology rather than celebrating her death … but I will not take the moral high-ground over anyone who decides to toast her passing. I totally understand that position and it’s only because I have mellowed that I am not doing the same.
If there is a God, Thatcher now has so much to answer for.
The Moon Bhoys
” there is nothing to be gained by celebrating the death of an old lady, very un-Celtic like imo.”
She was no lady
Evening bhoys from a sunny hun free mountain valley.
Driving home on the motorway today, daughter phoned with the news of Thatchers death, we stopped at the next service station to have a wee drink just to toast all those she had murdered and harmed.
HH to them all.
In the meantime when the blog was down, I have been barred from an ex pat brit site for voicing my opinion about the murdering bitch., na sence of humour thay brits >}
Good choice ,well done all concerned
17:47 on
8 April, 2013
Stephenpollock – I’m with you mate – I’m not political in any shape or form but quite certain there is nothing to be gained by celebrating the death of an old lady, very un-Celtic like imo.
I concur, some of you on here should be ashamed of yourselves.