I remember attending Glasgow Cup games in the 80s, friendlies, in all but name. If you put a cup up for the winners, it doesn’t really change anything, the “Sydney Super Cup” will be no different. The winners celebrated, the losers never really cared.
A proposed game against Newco in Australia in November is not welcome by me or most Celtic fans I know. I doubt the players will enjoy traipsing across the globe, although Ange Postecoglou will look forward to playing in what is being billed as “Ange’s Aussie Homecoming” tour.
I know for a fact that money has been on the table for similar fixtures before, but Peter Lawwell always rejected the suggestion. He also acquired IP rights over the “Old Firm” phrase, which he was required to share with Newco, specifically to secure a veto over its commercial use, which Celtic has enforced since.
A buy it and kill it move, although others promote the “buy it” element but fail to acknowledge the “kill it” part, despite this issue being the subject of questions at more than one AGM. Before this, he cleansed the phrase from Celtic’s media and other outlets.
It made no difference to perceptions for those still fighting the last war – ironically. The new regime’s choice: hang as a sheep or as a lamb. Let’s hope it’s only paper talk and the game does not take place. Newco might find being filler in the Ange’s Aussie Homecoming tour an even harder sell.
It is easy to see Livingston in the distance, a side who induce shudders, having denied Celtic all but a solitary point from two games this season. Tonight’s opponents, however, are the team on form.
Since closing at Ibrox on Boxing Day, St Mirren have won three and drawn one of their four games on the road – title winning form. The only time they failed to win in four home games in the same period was a 10-man defeat to Hearts on Saturday.
If Celtic are anything but their very best, they will drop points tonight.
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Oz – naw.
St Mirren and Livi both in excellent form. I fear every game at the mo given our drab form.
Rogic needs rested tonight. I’ll take 1-0.
Livi away haunts us. A game made for GG. Maybe we’ll at least score against them this time!
Previous Aussie tours
1977, 2009, 2011. No huns in tow. why now, really stupidly greedy thing to do, cashing in on Anges popularity, whisper it, but if we dont go there as champions them huns will publisise themselfs as the Rangers 56s , world record this , world record that, and we just been outhought in the marketing stakes.
what next half and half scarves ?
Need the three points tonight. Clean sheet and 3+ goals would be good.
If we can move the ball quickly, get good combination plays, stretch their defence, drag players out of position and disrupt their structure and work the openings we should be comfortable.
Interesting that you mentioned our midfield options yesterday, Paul. I still think we are missing an Armstrong-type MF that can make the late runs.
Ok.
I’m softening.
If Celtic are top of the bill, get the bigger share of the dough,
And
Sevco are rightly perceived as the supporting act fallen on hard times (think of Sammy Davis Jnr to Frank Sinatra)
And
It is being billed as “Ange comes home” ….
I’ll grudgingly live with it.
Bit of a downer if we arrive in Australia as runners-up to the huns in the league.
Don’t mind the trip to OZ – vitamin D for the squad, keep them fit and sharp for when the season resumes.
Definitely no game against the Huns. Celtic are not half of anything.
It’s the concept of The Old Firm that’s abhorrent to (most) Celtic fans, not the name itself.
Carrying on with the concept but studiously avoiding the use of the name is disingenuous.
It’s fooling no one.
Tonight folks we are playing a team that lost at home at the weekend.
Who we beat 6-0 at home earlier in the season.
Er…..that’s it
You CAN fool all of the people all of the time! por cierto
Ban the Overseas Glasgow Derby!
Free The Jimmy 1
The Brhucies & the Shhielas will be so looking forward to it though, that’s the catch 22 for me, por cierto.
JHB@ 6:26 AM
“Celtic FC Statement:
“Given the ongoing legal proceedings, it is not appropriate for us to provide any comment however we would reiterate that the Club is dealing with these sensitive matters.
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This seems to support what I alluded to yesterday in this article, i.e. that there is no relevant insurance covering Celtic in this historical matter.
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I see nothing in the statement from Celtic above that provides support or comfort to your reading of the situation. It neither proves nor disproves anything. Indeed insurers are not mentioned.
As for your ending of “no use looking for this to go away”- that is Bandier-like in its misreading of what posters have been telling you. Nobody, not one person, expects this to go away so who are you addressing?
Paul 67,
Re Australia.
Disagree for the reasons previously stated.
HH.
TIMMY7_NOTED
From earlier.
Apologies. My post was not intended as a criticism of yourself.
HH
Fairly neutral on the overseas derby game.
If it grows the league brand, then so be it. Would having 2 other scottish teams help?
More than that, as many of us have attended derby games in Glasgow since 2012, who are we to tell our Antipodean cousins that they should be denied similar
Focus now turns to this evenings game. 3 points, 3 goals please
YES to Angeballs Homecoming Tour.
I have been invited over for the couple of weeks.Lovely.Will make sure I have a large banner with ,
CQN Says Yes.
Apoplexy breaking out in scum hovels,
” What’s next,A St Patrick’s Day game in Dublin,to celebrate the fact”
Ernie,
And just how could Celtic stop it?.We do not recognise it.Everyone else does.For their own purposes.
st tams on 2nd March 2022 1:24 pm
Not a problem.
We do not have sole rights to the name.
If our business model requires Rangers and the Old Firm then I want no part of it. Too many lives and been lost and ruined by the ‘Old Firm’. Not one thin Dime as wee Fergus used to say!
WBC,
On the other hand.Ange could lead us there as Treble Winners.
Could I ask some of the bhoys the ones who are well informed on all things Celtic ,what is the latest news if any on the Hotel ,Musuem,Ticket Office etc,are they still in the pipeline
Turkeybhoy on 2nd March 2022 1:32 pm
As much as I hate the idea of this whole “old firm” trip if it really gets under the skin of the huns then every cloud has a silver lining.
Hypocrisy CSC :-)
I’ll continue to be critical of this event with all the tims I know. But maybe I’ll be a little more flexible on my perspective with any huns I meet :-)
TURKEYBHOY on 2ND MARCH 2022 1:37 PM
Paul says in the article that we ‘bought it and killed it’ (old firm term). That sounded like we could do something about it if others used it.
Good afternoon all from Ruglen
The OF legal term is a total red herring, we don’t make money from a catchphrase, don’t use it,let the huns have it,any time it is used,it would become a hun term.
The reason I asked about the Hotel etc,is Sevco who are supposed to be skint demolished Edmonston House only to rebuild it into there Museum,I’ve always believed they are one step ahead of us ,I still think there are Kelly’s and the Whites on our board ?
This hun game in Australia really is a distraction we don’t need at the minute….anything that causes disharmony or any sort of division is not welcome….we need a united front more than ever in the coming weeks!!!
TURKEYBHOY on 2ND MARCH 2022 1:37 PM
Ernie,
And just how could Celtic stop it?
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By letting the organisers know, right at the start, that they wouldn’t be interested in playing in a voluntary tournament with the huns.
Whether we want to be the other half with Deidco pales into insiginifcance for the numbers of football people globally who would roll up and pay good money to watch the “old firm” bandwagon, no matter where it lands.
Thems the facts.
HH
The game tonight is the only thing I’m thinking about. 2-1 to us and loads of nerves on here!
Aus trip: at least it isn’t Dubai………
WEEBOBBYCOLLINS on 2ND MARCH 2022 12:59 PM
Bit of a downer if we arrive in Australia as runners-up to the huns in the league.
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Ange might not even be the boss in November 😃
Game is a sell out tonight COYBIG 🍀
I am sure we would get more money playing a game against Russia, as long as they pretend to be USSR. Equally as repugnant a thought
Sturgeon, in the footsteps of McDermid, jumping once again into the Goodwillie situation. Silence for five years and then this.
However what she is doing, and she knows it, is trampling all over her own Offender Rehabilition Act. This is cheap headline-making from both Sturgeon & McDermid, nothing less – the reference to “remorse” is a blatant dissembling.
Nowhere in the Act, which is designed for offenders with a criminal conviction of six months or more to retake their place in society and build a new life for themselves & their family, is there any mention of an offender having to express remorse publically…..plus the fact that Goodwillie doesn’t have a criminal conviction and therefore is under the threshold of the act in any case.
No matter your view of Goodwillie himself, what is happening is plain wrong and against the law of the land.
It is a witchunt, pure & simple for political reasons.
Goodwillie today, who will it be tomorrow, and for what purpose?
thats the guy that tells us 95% of his posts are about the football.
BIG WAVY
Whether we want to be the other half with Deidco pales into insiginifcance for the numbers of football people globally who would roll up and pay good money to watch the “old firm” bandwagon, no matter where it lands.
Especially if it lands in the east end of Glasgow.
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