Police fail, Shakhtar toil

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Police Scotland refuse to allow a game to proceed with 2,000 Napoli fans a few hours after the Queen’s body leaves for London.  It is only in recent years European games have been policed as though we were living under Martial Law.  Mini-vans full of officers, accompanied by impressively expensive hardware, now segregate our streets outside grounds.  The same is true when 700 Celtic fans visit Ibrox and in the corresponding game at Celtic Park.

No event proceeded the upgrade in spend, we went from peaceful, low-key policing, to what looks like a paramilitary occasion.  The overtime costs must be off the scale.  It solves a problem that never existed; in my decades attending Glasgow derbies and European games I witnessed countless occasions where rival fans walked away from games on either side of a street, with no police presence, never once did I see trouble.

There are real problems elsewhere.  This change did not make our streets any safer outside pubs and take-away venues, where, hours later, drunken flashpoints happen.  It also takes away the limited resources previously used for traffic duty, so fans are trapped in the area of the ground for much longer than before Mr Salmond’s policing reforms a few years ago.

Can we have the return of non-military policing, please?  Maybe then we will be able to cope with two low-key events happening at different times on the same day.  This is all a bit embarrassing.

Like you, I was keen for Premiership games go ahead on Saturday, as I expected Aberdeen to take points against Newco and for Celtic to beat Livingston.  Ultimately, I doubt the postponements will make any difference to the outcome of the title.

What may be more relevant is the unexpected gift of a free week ahead of the game against Shakhtar Donetsk on Wednesday.  Shakhtar had an exhausting game against Chornomorets Odesa on Saturday.  Marian Shved equalised for them in the 74th minute before they scored a 96th minute winner against a team who have drawn two and lost two of their four games this season.

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  1. back to the live fitba ………..

     

     

    what celtic directors attended the event ? were they sitting in the pews reserved for the old firm ?

  2. SAINT STIVS on 12TH SEPTEMBER 2022 4:32 PM

     

    news reaches us that the corgis have quit the royal palaces.

     

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    Well ‘Everybody’s Gotta Learn Sometime’

  3. that dont bring marmalade sandwiches to the parks is beyond anything even spike milligan could dream up.

  4. “SAINT STIVS on 12TH SEPTEMBER 2022 5:00 PM

     

    that dont bring marmalade sandwiches to the parks is beyond anything even spike milligan could dream up.”

     

     

     

    What`s that about St S ?

  5. Andrew Windsor remained good friends with a convicted paedophile, staying over night in his New York apartment in which young women were photographed entering and leaving regularly while he was there.

     

     

    Andrew also paid out £12 million to settle claims he was a party to sex trafficking and sexual exploitation of a 17 girl.

  6. Unlike you Tom, I abide by the blogs rules of no personal attacks, you have a history, nay in fact you are a serial abuser of the main blog rule of no personal attacks, I can’t say what I really think of you, I can think it, but you post the personal attacks, you have goaded me and had it in for me for many many years.

     

    For the blog to show what kind of poster you really are, a small selection of what you have called me over the years, I stopped compiling this list about eight years ago, so the list will be much larger had I bothered my arse with your pathetic attacks, you sir really really really need help.

     

    Do yourself a favour and scroll past my posts, never address me again.

     

    Arrogant

     

    Deluded

     

    Fantasist

     

    Stupid

     

    Guilable

     

    A fool

     

    Ignorant

     

    Hunnish

     

    Patronising

     

    Wicked

     

    Evil

     

    Foolish

     

    Twisted

     

    Attention seeker…..aren’t we all

     

    psychotic

     

    Paranoid

     

    Bitter

     

    Confused…..I will agree with that one on occasion

     

    Condescending

     

    A sick bastard

     

    Devoid of all humanity

     

    Don’t have a clue….give you that at times

     

    Idiotic

     

    An idiot

     

    delusional

  7. It’s not a crime in this country if you are a Royal.

     

     

    They do whatever the fuc* they like and get away with it.

     

     

    FACT.

  8. Heard that ‘plea’ from Royal Parks….no more p’ton bears or marmalade sandwiches……but do bring flowers.It would have been more sensible if they had encouraged people to donate to charity instead of this nonsensical bringing of ‘toys’ and bread to a ‘wake’.

  9. BHOYJOEBELFAST on 12TH SEPTEMBER 2022 5:15 PM

     

     

    I thought the same as soon as the first flowers were laid at the balmoral gates.

     

     

    waste of money, bad for the environment as tonnes and tonnes of plastic added to the ground.

     

     

    but there was a feeling of need to get more flowers that di did too physically demonstrate their level of grief.

     

     

    they could have left tins of food for the banks instead, something worthy, something really caring.

     

     

    another 7 days of this shite,

  10. Marmalade sandwiches and toned down Barcode beepers? Amazing.

     

     

    I get the impression that many people think that modern `us` are far more aware and intelligent than the broad population from centuries ago.

     

    I see no evidence to support that possibility.

  11. It would be pretty good if this place became a sanctuary for those not wishing to indulge in the topic of the moment.

     

    I hereby declare, I will not type another post on the matter.

  12. STIVS:

     

    Heard the beeb commentator address the problem re p’ton,flowers and other strange things the great British public have brought to Buck House and parks within the Royal estate…..they are used in recycling….in which way? I haven’t a clue.

  13. “TICKETBUS on 12TH SEPTEMBER 2022 5:25 PM

     

    AULDHIED , thank you .”

     

     

     

    I echo that sentiment.

  14. CELTIC MAC on 12TH SEPTEMBER 2022 1:54 PM

     

    As someone who is interested in Scottish history, British and Irish too, I must admit I find watching the latest episode unfold very interesting indeed. Might not be as fascinating as the history of the Jungle roof of course. I’ll grant you that….

     

     

    Heh Celticmac,room for both🤣 it is interesting noting the initial changes in law,what we are told say in comparison.say for eg

     

     

    Chas ascension speech,him leader aff o the proddies 🤣 one attended by all party leaders.

     

     

    In 1952 we would not have known of that.

     

     

    Jeez phasers are on perma-malky on union linkage.they know best the old kults.

     

     

    Am wondering when is Royal It’s a knockout on?

     

    It is that surreal.

     

     

    In contrast to the smooth slickness all financial titles,deeds and monies is done.no duty.yours now Chas.’a well oiled machine’,not only in the circus trumpeters for tourists,also in the money guys..

     

     

    Would be nice if we could have some of that wealth redistributed.

     

     

    Love the history stuff

     

     

    Hail Hail

  15. What is Prince Andrew accused of? (BBC NEWS)

     

     

    In court documents, Virginia Giuffre says she was the victim of sex trafficking and abuse by Jeffrey Epstein from the age of 16.

     

     

    Part of her abuse involved being lent out to other powerful men – including Prince Andrew, she alleges.

     

     

    Ms Giuffre says the duke sexually assaulted her on three occasions when she was under the age of 18.

     

     

    The first time was in 2001 in London. In a 2019 interview with the BBC, she said she was introduced to Prince Andrew by Epstein and his then-girlfriend, socialite Ghislaine Maxwell, who took them to a nightclub.

     

     

    Ms Giuffre recounts being told by Ms Maxwell as a 17-year-old that she had to “do for Andrew what I do for Jeffrey”.

     

     

    Ms Giuffre’s lawsuit alleges she suffered “significant emotional and psychological distress” from three sex assaults

     

     

    Later that evening she says she had sex with the duke upstairs at Ms Maxwell’s house in Belgravia.

     

     

    On the second occasion, it is alleged that Prince Andrew abused Ms Giuffre in Epstein’s mansion in New York.

     

     

    And she says the duke abused her a third time on Epstein’s private island, Little St James, in the US Virgin Islands.

     

     

    Ms Giuffre says in the court documents that she was forced into sex by explicit or implicit threats and because she feared the powerful connections, wealth and authority of Epstein, Ms Maxwell and Prince Andrew.

     

     

    She says the duke knew her age and that she was a sex-trafficking victim.

  16. Bhoyjoebelfast on 12th September 2022 5:31 pm

     

     

    SCULLY:

     

    2005.SCF

     

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

     

     

    You are sharp. Are we still on to meet in Belfast? I dont want to hang around on the blog as Mr Mind Control draws everyone in, and I would rather just talk Celtic.

  17. The paegentary off it all is indeed interesting to a point,

     

     

    my takeway so far is the lack of orange order attendess, why aint they on the street in full dress uniforms, or indeed why not in the cortege

     

     

    no one likes them maybe

  18. SCULLY:

     

    Remember you told me you started back on 26th Sep. and a Mon,Tue or Thur. would be appropriate……is that still the case.Feel like a spy handing over sensitive documents!

  19. Bhoyjoebelfast on 12th September 2022 5:45 pm

     

     

    SCULLY:

     

    Remember you told me you started back on 26th Sep. and a Mon,Tue or Thur. would be appropriate……is that still the case.Feel like a spy handing over sensitive documents!

     

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

     

     

    You must have a memory like a computer! Yip, that is all accurate, although I did have bad news on the old health front, and I am awaiting appointments to be scheduled etc. But it’ll all be fine.

     

     

    BTW you are handing over some very valuable documents!

  20. AULDHEID on 12TH SEPTEMBER 2022 1:53 PM

     

     

    ‘ For those who stopped being supportive or actively worked against Res12 there is a lesson to be learned which is honest persistence pays.’

     

     

     

    ##

     

     

     

    Your indefatigability is to be saluted.

     

     

    I’m sure that initially you might have hoped for more, but the journey would have been a bit of a learning curve regarding the nature of those in control of Celtic.

     

     

    We are all in your debt.

  21. Oh, no! Mr Mind control.

     

     

    Maybe not semantics, and I suppose there are levels of depravity. You are entitled to your opinion, but all I know is how I would feel if it was my teenager daughter.

     

     

    Anyway, did anyone get the Bhoys in the pics?

  22. Oh, I am sorry Joe and Bournesouprecipe – correct – I allowed myself to be distracted for a moment there.

  23. To get back to The Celtic End and The Jungle.

     

    My first game was in ‘61 and it just had to be in The Celtic End – near the pylon between The Celtic End and The Jungle. Still love that spot. My first time in The Jungle was the victory against Liverpool in the 66 semifinal where one of our crew was a pseudo Liverpool fan whose scarf and tammy were thrown high and far and never seen again when Stevie scored. In between these years I shifted from the old enclosure to The Celtic End depending on dosh or size of the crowd.

     

    Happy Times!