I spoke to Celtic today about various questions surrounding stewarding and policing in and around the stadium.
The club would not be specific on any particular incident but I got a run down on various instances (alleged assault, vandalism) when Celtic have responded to police requests for identifying information on fans. Celtic said the police can only ask for identifying information if they allege a crime has been committed and Celtic’s safety certificate, allowing them to open the stadium, depends on the club complying with police requests if they allege a crime has been committed.
The club were clear that complying with police requests on such instances is not a matter of choice for Celtic, “It happens, it has always happened, and it happens at every other club in the UK”.
I asked if the club target fans and ask the police to arrest them. I was told this is ludicrous to suggest the police do the bidding of the club (I was also laughed at for making the suggestion). Celtic can revoke tickets and stadium access without recourse to the police.
My conversation happened before anyone at Celtic heard last night’s podcast from the HomeBhoys but I asked specific questions about the red haired fan discussed who was allegedly brandishing a seat and was told no police request had been received in connection to him and that his details had therefore not been passed to the police.
I understand the club have met with various supporters’ groups and clarified these issues, as well as more general stadium safety matters, and that they will issue a statement later today in response to questions asked by the Celtic Trust, who I believe put many of these points in writing.
After speaking to Celtic I spoke to a police officer who is a regular Match Commander at SPL games (not Celtic games) who confirmed clubs would lose their safety certificate if they failed to cooperate with the police.
Having had the chance to put questions to Celtic I asked them give others the same opportunity and to unconditionally meet with any fans’ group with concerns on any of these matters. They assured me they would.
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Summa of Sammi….
10:45 on 27 March, 2013
Summa of KevJunglesMyHeroCSC
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Hmmmmm….how long do ye think you’ll last on here with
proclamations like that ?
I digg yer style – CSC :o)
HH
God bless Miki, hope your back with us soon.
Kev Jungle
How on earth were Barcelona in 2nd gear when Celtic beat them?
A full team played and battered Celtic for most of the game but they couldn’t score thanks to our team’s heroics and Fraser Forster in the goal. Celtic took their chances and deserved to win.
I hate the league cup. It is a mickey mouse tournament with no European place and no value for Celtic other than a possible treble and those are done rarely in any event.
Modern football is changing. Do Man U, Arsenal or other teams bother that much with their version of the league cup?
NO
Why?
Because they know the real stuff is the CL – end of story.
I honestly don’t know why you even support Celtic because you only seem interested in pulling the club’s achievements down.
You can’t count the number of other sides who have beaten Barcelona this season on two hands at a push and when we did it only Real Madrid had beaten them.
Mrs Miki 67 ..
Please tell Miki that his cactus is thriving .
kevjungle – every sb purchased = vote for toothless bored
10:22
. One trophy from four – is a bad state of affairs
the one that mattered kev…league title with another on the way
plus a scottish cup semi
so 3 out of 6/9 for neil + maybe sc so could be 4/9
when you look back at the mowbray take it on the chin era and the squad then
to neil at the helm and the squad on the pitch
totally agree on the board issue
with the number of wise heads on the board and the issues around the club
how come the celtic pr and media stance is so shocking!,!
the board would rather fight celtic supporters than deal with the spl/sfa or chuckles green
paul67 keep up the good work with the board
you may try your best but i think the board would rather not listen and sit in silence
every statement they release asks more questions than answers imho
lets hope all sides can be brought together for the good of celtic
looking foward to the day all are joined together in support of our dreams for celtic
hail hail the celts are here
jam67
Back in the Real World.
A fine suggestion from Ralph Malph on E-tims:-
“I liked the reply to yesterdays diary from Bondibrian, who upon purchasing a ticket for the Australia -Oman game, was warned he’d be in the “active section”, and may be required to join in.
Thats the way forward. Scrap season books and just let people sit where they want-or restrict books to three stands, and let those who fancy a day at the football sit in the other one. Or a couple of lower tiers.”
Would we, as a consumer support, accept being forcibly moved from our place in the stadium (e.g. 2 sections of the Jock Stein Lower reserved for day ticket sales)?
I’m off oot noo
Wales 15 /4
Serbia 8/13.
Free money.. Thank you !.
Warming up ——-way down south .
setting free the bears
10:48 on 27 March, 2013
Just a bit of friendly advice from your Agony Aunt, Marge Lupus
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Aye – consumed with the aid of a shovel fae of the type of salt that I
take to help me digest the bored’s statements.
Btw…when the down-sizing started wi the WGS era…that’s where I got off oot.
It seems that – 8 years later…the penny is slowly but, surely dropping. imo
I mean…when the bored have to be – the Kelly’s n White’s in reverse and
ADD-ON figures to the gate…I mean…may God help the Celtic fans who are
still being taken in by this – tribute/act of Celtic leaders.(do ye see yerself in there ?)
Only asking like..
HH
setting free the bears
In beating Barcelona we should have swept St Mirren aside no problem. The answer to the question is both games hould have been won. We have the players to have beaten both. They proved against Barca twice they can compete at the highest level. Why did we perform so badly against St Mirren?
St Mirren have around 5 or 6 players in their first team who came through our youth set up. Maybe they had something to prove.
Celtic should be winning the treble this season. The league has seen the team win most games in 2nd gear. Bring in Lassad and Miku on large wages gave us next to nothing. We would have been better playing our own youths against St Mirren rather than have these two guys on the bench. I don’t see what either has brought to the side for the money we are paying them in wages. I can handle losing against Scottish teams IF we play our youths. It gives them experience and there is nothing better than seeing Bhoys come through the ranks and play for the club.
The League Cup next season should be a tournement that Celtic play under 21’s and squad players IF we are still in Europe. They should be good enough to get to at least the final. If they don’t it’s a great learning curve for them and we will reap the benefits in the future.
LB
Right!! lets just all of us Board,fans everyone settle this dispute with a massive huddle atop Ben Nevis that’s the Celtic way ,get the boots ready
http://nevishuddle2013.eventbrite.co.uk/
jungle jam67
10:55 on 27 March, 2013
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I agree with ye aboot the bored….but
we’ll agree to disagree aboot the team/manager.
Hail Hail
We’re Still Pals – CSC :o)
Important Phone-call
have to go Off oot
Hail Hail n God Bless Celtic fans
Not only are the GB well healed Londoners who purposely get 14 year olds the jail as a means of getting at P Lawwell, once they dominate the entire mind set of Celtic supporters in general they will introduce Sharia law along the Gallowgate and change the badge to star of David with a big fat jobby on it. You heard it here first.
Kevj
Important Phone-call
have to go Off oot
Hail Hail n God Bless Celtic fans
Buy a mobile…..
kev jungle
watch a Celtic team running roon Hamdump
wi a cup wi green n white ribbons hmmm ?
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to be running round hampdump in an sfa run cup competition is all well and dandy
if like our deid rivals from across the city is world record league and cups achieved with the
help of cheats with whistles floats yer boat
give me the league title every year neil/kev
and the chance to show the best in the europe
that the celtic still have the passion that the lions had in 67
kev …….yer aff yer heid in a nice aff yer heid way ;->)))))))
hail hail the celts are here
jam67
Anyone who would refer to our victory over Barca as being the result of them playing in ‘second gear’ is more focussed on driving a personal agenda than supporting Celtic.
Murdochbhoy, yermanfromMK
10:29 on 27 March, 2013
The gist of it is that according to Mr Cairney the version of certain events regarding the GB presented to us by the Club is false. Specifically what was discussed at a meeting at which Mr Crainey was present.
It’s a problem and it needs to be resolved.
HT
tooting tim was looking for any spare for Love St
any joy?
BT
I’ll ask and get back to you but I had to ask the bus for one because Sex Rd is particularly difficult to get tickets for when the home club handle them.
Watched the Barca game AGAIN yesterday – they certainly did NOT play in 2nd gear.
The Celtic team that night put in the most disciplined performance in years. Every player played his part, and let’s not forget that several regulars were missing.
The atmosphere that night was also spine-tingling, and reverberated around the globe.
A fantastic night – there will be more in the years to come!
HH!!
Barca in 4th gear are better than St Mirren.
Dunno what the problem was that day. It was a 3-2 skelping!
It happens in fitba though. Barca played to their best and lost.
What a night it was. Kids all over the country will remember watching that game their whole life when a team from Scotland beat the team hailed as the greatest club side in history!
LB
Mrs Miki
Thanks for the update. Was a wee bit worried for a day or so there.
BT
I’ve asked he says it’s too early to say for sure whether he’ll have any spares but I’ll keep you posted mate.
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kevjungle – every sb purchased = vote for toothless bored
Important Phone-call
have to go Off oot
Hail Hail n God Bless Celtic fans
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Didnae Know SSB HAD A Morning Phone-In..;-)
Summa of ShugJungleCSC
KevJungle – Every SB purchased = vote for toothless bored
Team playing the best stuff since Jansen’s day.
Average attendances dwarfing averages for 70s, 80s and 90s.
Last 16 of ECL.
Major rival dead of arrogance and greed.
No McNee on TV.
What’s not to like?
Livibhoy-agree re Miku and Lassad,we would have been better off giving Tony Watt more game time.He ran St Mirren ragged earlier in the season too.
!!Bada Bing!!
Miku has done nothing but moan since he got to Glasgow. Lassad might be a player but no better than what we have. That St Mirren game really annoys me. Just weren’t up for it enough. I can handle losing but not through lack of application.
LB
Those Inter players weren’t trying very hard in ’67 either.
THE BARCA MOLE 0728
Sorry if I gave the wrong impression in my 0720 POST. LEFT OF CENTREis bang on the money. Supportive of the underdog. Two of the characteristics,in general,of the Celtic support.
But not,as I said,all of us-and that’s to be expected.
We can always try and help them see the error of their ways……
Glass raised to yer Da,btw.
Vmhan
or anyone else in the area.
Kids team down at Southport for Easter tournament any chance the thing will be called off ? Looking at BBC and over night
temps getting below Zero but I guess if no snow lying it should be OK.
Back in again….
Snake Plissken
TallyBhoy
What I’m driving at – did we parade a trophy after beating Barca ?
Did the manager learn anything from it ?
If he did – why did he play 3 strikers v’s Juve when – half the team were
carrying injuries ?
Why undo all the good work in that field(CL) ?
Was the manager – naive or, ego-tripping v’s Juve ?
Efe was just of the plane after his ANC exploits so – why no protective
shield in front of him from midfield ?
Has Efe been badly managed by Neil ?
I mean, Efe showed he was cutting-it at CH and, was bringing a player
out of big Kelvin then…Neil turns into WGS and started playing Efe in
midfield – right back WTF was that all about ? Messed big Efe aboot
and made him find it difficult to settle.imo That’s bad management. imo
Hamiltontim
11:24 on 27 March, 2013
Anyone who would refer to our victory over Barca as being the result of them playing in ‘second gear’ is more focussed on driving a personal agenda than supporting Celtic.
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Well…you would say that.
Ye see…the Barca result shouldn’t in any way – obscure the blotting of the copybook
so to speak – of countless domestic blips. imo
Only saying
HH
Thanks HT
just a wee up dat for the bhoys in blue fans
BEAT cops were raging last night after it emerged their union officials secretly awarded themselves a whopping £12,500 wages windfall.
Twenty-one serving officers in the Scottish Police Federation will now get the “honorarium” each year — meaning even constables on the SPF could trouser nearly £50,000 per annum.
nice pay rise plod
whast the overtime rate for a day down the gallowgate?
never mind glasgow city council have plenty cash to pay the bill
jam67
auldheid
10:16 on
27 March, 2013
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From conversations I’ve had with close friends and family, the general feeling is of unswerving support for the GB… Despite their ill advised Poppy statement- we all live and learn and as a prominent poster on here reminded me recently-we all have the right to grow and learn as we go. He was never more correct.
At the time I told my son that there would be a backlash to the GB and we would probably see a rival group forming- he laughed at the idea. Recently he told me it was actually happening now – but I doubt it will gain any real impetus as the GB are well established and have the vast majority of Celts on board.
Speaking of the board. They do seem to lack vision – good basics but fail to grasp the nettle at times. There is a sense that they have the nous and means … But lack the necessary drive!
HH
jc2
11:52 on
27 March, 2013
You’ll be fine mate, it’s not very warm but the ground is OK.
ernie lynch
10:36 on 27 March, 2013
macjay1 for Neil Lennon
10:16 on 27 March, 2013
There you go again using confusing words.
What do you mean by fascist?
Totalitarian.
Viz.
Stalin.
Hitler.
Quisling.
Laval.
Mussolini.
Franco
His mate in Portugal.
Kruschev
Brezhnev
Yeltsin
Putin.
Mao
Ho Chi Min
Chou en Lai
Vervoert
Botha
Emperor Bokassa
Mugabe
Amin.
Pol Pot
Castro
Castro`s brother,Raul.
Pinochet.
Galtieri
Galtieri`s predecessor.
Peron
Evita Peron
Plethora of other Latin American dictators,current and otherwise.
Sundry leaders of Burma,Malaysia,Indonesia……Sukarno,Suharto
Feel free to chip in,Ernie.
There`s lots to go around.
Sadly.
Serie B clubs have agreed to cap players salaries at 300 K euros for season 2013 -2014 .
Current average attendance at a Serie B game is 7813 .. Current average cost of a ticket for a Serie B game is @ 22 euros…
Rich man’s hobby CSC ——Way down south.
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS 11:51 on 27 March, 2013………
Cheers pal; was just a wee (comradely) dig at your mellowing with age, ‘politically speaking’…….
Aye, my old Da was more than a wee bit left of centre….
Regards & Hail Hail
TBM
saltires en sevilla
Rival group? The White Brigade?
There will always be factions in any group. I’m sure there are guys in the GB who don’t agree with everything the group have done or suggest.
That’s life I suppose. Another fan group would not be a bad thing but the issues start if they start sniping at each other. That’s the last thing we need. Everyone should be focused on getting behind the team. They perfom much better when we are united behind them. The GB have been a breath of fresh air to Scottish football and numerous clubs have copied them to some extent with some relative success. I reckon the English clubs will follow suit next season too. The atmosphere at grounds in Britain needs a kick start. The GB have shown how it can be successful. I just wish that the club and the GB would sit down and get the issues sorted.
LB