I spoke to Celtic today about various questions surrounding stewarding and policing in and around the stadium.
The club would not be specific on any particular incident but I got a run down on various instances (alleged assault, vandalism) when Celtic have responded to police requests for identifying information on fans. Celtic said the police can only ask for identifying information if they allege a crime has been committed and Celtic’s safety certificate, allowing them to open the stadium, depends on the club complying with police requests if they allege a crime has been committed.
The club were clear that complying with police requests on such instances is not a matter of choice for Celtic, “It happens, it has always happened, and it happens at every other club in the UK”.
I asked if the club target fans and ask the police to arrest them. I was told this is ludicrous to suggest the police do the bidding of the club (I was also laughed at for making the suggestion). Celtic can revoke tickets and stadium access without recourse to the police.
My conversation happened before anyone at Celtic heard last night’s podcast from the HomeBhoys but I asked specific questions about the red haired fan discussed who was allegedly brandishing a seat and was told no police request had been received in connection to him and that his details had therefore not been passed to the police.
I understand the club have met with various supporters’ groups and clarified these issues, as well as more general stadium safety matters, and that they will issue a statement later today in response to questions asked by the Celtic Trust, who I believe put many of these points in writing.
After speaking to Celtic I spoke to a police officer who is a regular Match Commander at SPL games (not Celtic games) who confirmed clubs would lose their safety certificate if they failed to cooperate with the police.
Having had the chance to put questions to Celtic I asked them give others the same opportunity and to unconditionally meet with any fans’ group with concerns on any of these matters. They assured me they would.
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fritzsong
11:42 on 27 March, 2013
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Heh, heh :o)
The bit that I question is where ye say that oor rivals are deed !?!?
I know, I know…
Ye see…for me – the huns wulny die until – ibrokes is flattened. imo
Another tiny wee thing….the huns are oot the same league as us for whit
3/4 of a season and yet – CP is half-empty ?
What crowds would we get if it came to pass that – the huns were liquidated
again and, had ibrokes reduced to a pile of asbestos dust ?
I would give it a year and – we would be oot the gemme tae !
Oh…I forgot yer wee bit aboot the bould Gerry McNee – no on the tv anymair.
Well….for me..since Gerry hung-up his pen it’s been – wall 2 wall LList’s.
Auld Hugh Keevins came away wi a statement on the SSB last Saturday
where he said sumfin like – “We’ve got Rangers fans on here telling us that they won’t go back into the SPL and….we’ve also got Celtic fans on saying that they(Celtic fans) don’t think – Rangers have been punished enough. So…going by that…I think that the game in this country is FINISHED !!!”
I think that HK has got a point !!!
Only saying
HH
auldheid
wise words…the Harvard Business School define “real vision” as 1% vision and 99% alignment.
The need for a compromise is great however the wounds are not yet healed rom the Gallowgate incident and maybe the FAC demo will keep the fire stoked. Perhaps a clear statement from the club, an open invitation to all factions and a summit meeting at season end is the only way forward.
THE BARCA MOLE
Sadly,you are geting mixed up with “mellowing with age” and “turning into a right grouch” for which I plead guilty!
God knows what I’ll be like when I start acting my age………
SFTB and Kevjungle,
Would you rather we won the Champions league or 10 in a row (with Sevco in the spl)?
For me its the CL every time.
THE BARCA MOLE
BTW,I had to laugh at your suggestion for improving my posts via the i-phone which I canny use properly
TAKE OFF THE PREDICTIVE TEXT
Well,if I could manage that wee task,I’d be three-quarters of the way to mastering the contraption!
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
12:16 on 27 March, 2013
THE BARCA MOLE
Sadly,you are geting mixed up with “mellowing with age” and “turning into a right grouch” for which I plead guilty!
God knows what I’ll be like when I start acting my age………
Naw pal, don’t dae that fir God’s sake….. yer fine as ye are……….
Victor Meldrew CSC
Regards & Hail Hail
TBM
“We believe in freedom of political expression inside Celtic Park. Provided we agree with the politics being expressed”
Marrakesh Express
12:17 on 27 March, 2013
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We could’ve won the CL THIS season if
Neil didny get too gallus wi his tactics v Juve
that he has – walked away from. imo
We’re the famous Glasgow Celtic n we’re no going to Wembely – CSC
WEEMINGER
You’re right-we need an arbiter for what is and is not acceptable.
A thankless task,no doubt-but I’m willing to volunteer…….
KevJungle – Every SB purchased = vote for toothless bored
12:15 on
27 March, 2013
Well done mate, it’s not often that someone posts something where I disagree with everything in it.
I bought TWO season books instead of just paying at the gate this season because my faith in Scottish football supporters was boosted by them refusing to cow tow like yersel to the armageddon crap.
I travel a distance to get to games so I miss some, mainly because of the success of our club I canny afford the time to get up the road 3 times a week sometimes.
The demise of the Hun is a huge opportunity for some of our bigger provincial clubs to spend their extra money wisely and step up to the plate.
People like you and the MSM constantly talking down our game should just shut it, disappear, and don’t come back.
livibhoy
12:15 on
27 March, 2013
saltires en sevilla
Rival group? The White Brigade?
There will always be factions in any group. I’m sure there are guys in the GB who don’t agree with everything the group have done or suggest.
Etc.,
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Yes I agree everyone behind Celts – I suppose the term ‘Rival Group’ conveys a sense of being in opposition – probably more rivals in how to demonstrate support for the club – an alternative way of expressing feelings
It’s a young man’s game all that jumping about and singing and stuff…
I’ll leave it to them :-)
– either way they will all be 100% Celts! Different shades of Green …
As you say it’s always been the way
HH
south of tunis
12:12 on
27 March, 2013
Let sevco into the SPL and ill guarantee you full houses at every stadium in serie B every week.
Yours sincerely,
Chuckles.
Wembely=Wembley
blame the schools – CSC
typo
sorry
macjay1 for Neil Lennon
12:11 on 27 March, 2013
Degrading words, loosing their meaning until they become meaningless, is a sign of sloppy thinking.
Estoril boy/ Murdoch Auld and Hay.
I will be there.should be good.Ben Nevis is green and white.might come round via the Arete tho.
One of the famous red heads that wore the HOOPS.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&v=M19_hw-SJho&NR=1
saltires en sevilla
It is a young mans game. I get tired watching them. It’s sometimes better than the game.
LB
Bawsman
12:25 on 27 March, 2013
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Oh aye – and who speaks for the other 30k of seats that have emptied
awe roon aboot where I sit ?
Here’s the thing…last season the fans of – EVERY club in the country said
collectively – “Don’t let the huns / sevco into the SPL and – we’ll all fill the stadiums
week in, week out to offset the loss of the hun£ !!!”
What happened there ?
Only on 4 occasions has CP been filled to capacity – CL games !
So…don’t be surprised to see – the clubs collectively voting the huns back into the
SPL next season and, pointing oot to their supporters – “…yeez said ye would turn out if the huns were refused entry and – didny see it through !”
Or words to that effect .
HH
Livibhoy
Superb!
SFTB
I agree with your post relating to Bondibrian’s point. We only have to look at how they a running things in the Bundesliga. Every club has a standing kop at the ‘home end’. The atmosphere is very evident, even through TV cameras, and the backing the home club gets from it is huge, just like the old jungle or the Liverpool kop. German fans can be seen waving club ultra banners (many with political slogans too) while drinking low alcohol beer, packed in like sardines, taking part in lateral movement, but creating a great atmosphere at practically every ground (remind you of any other group?). Its not only allowed, its encouraged by the governing bodies who also dictate that prices are kept to a minimum. Two seasons ago a Dortmund season book cost the same as a Dunfermline one. The Germans usually get it right, as their football organisation, their clubs’ health, the booming crowds and their national team’s success would back up.
I suspect the only people who think the Germans are doing it wrong are Salmond, Strathclyde plod and the SPL/SFA.
And here’s the other red head.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUK004Q5dFo
marrakesh express
12:37 on
27 March, 2013
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Fantastic stuff
If I am having a wee grumble/bite at lack of drive by our board… Your post illustrates perfectly what is being done elsewhere to get things moving along
HH
Philvs about???
Marrakesh Express
12:37 on 27 March, 2013
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Agreed 100% M8
Bring back the Jungle and put the GB in there. imo
I think that Scottish fitba is going full-circle to where it
was before the arrival of the – beast in1986. imo
Hail Hail n God Bless
Off oot
marrakesh express
12:37 on 27 March, 2013
was just about to post an article more or less the same
well said
hail hail
the board and the spl/sfa are running football using an outdated model
jam67
KevJungle – Every SB purchased = vote for toothless bored
So in a long winded bore the tits affa everybody way yer jist saying ye miss yer wee pals fae the soothside??
kevjungle – every sb purchased = vote for toothless bored
11:53 on
27 March, 2013
You are displaying a high propensity for talking a load of old shoite……LOL
KevJungle – Every SB purchased = vote for toothless bored
12:36 on
27 March, 2013
You actually believe the crap written in the chip wrappers.
I could guarantee that there have been more Celtic fans through our gates this season than many of the previous, even as far back as November there were two clubs in the land that had more than a million through the gates, Celtic and Manchester United.
We’ve had about half a dozen Tayside derbys this year, Highland derbys, we sold out Pittodrie for the first time in years, huge crowd when we went to Easter Rd and Tynecastle. St Mirren v Hearts 45,000.
Shove yer negative armageddon crap mate, that’s doing the churnalists job.
Bawsman
12:07 on
27 March, 2013
jc2
11:52 on
27 March, 2013
You’ll be fine mate, it’s not very warm but the ground is OK.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Cheers
Ill pack my thermals for a freezing chalet at Pontins
the outdated model
the promotion of a wee third division team at all costs
this is the sfa/ spl dream ticket
this is what brings in the cash
they known no other model because they need the deid club ethos
and that is what matters
jam67
starry plough
67Heaven … I am Neil Lennon..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors
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Well it’s a bit like this……ach – whits the point……..?
Off oot
bawsman
12:25 on 27 March, 2013
You need to understand something here…….Kev Jungle is an attention-seeking erse……!!
starry plough
12:47 on 27 March, 2013
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha…..that’s because he is one….!!!!!!
I wonder how many folk lost interest in going to CP in the years where we’d sold out the SB and getting tickets on a match by match basis was difficult.
Perhaps with hindsight having such a large portion of the stadium sold as SB was a mistake.
67Heaven … I am Neil Lennon..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors
12:52 on
27 March, 2013
Aye, I realise this but somtimes the circuit breaker trips, even at my age, which IMHO, is a good sign ;-)
Back in again….
Bawsman
12:47 on 27 March, 2013
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The negative lies n crap is being spun by yer own bored.
They canny – after boring us silly for years wi awe their balance-sheet crap – even tell us the TRUE size of a crowd at CP ?
Yer being – HAD – by the bored m8. imo
I’m only saying – no looking for a fight.
Hail hail n God Bless
Off oot – to the mountains….
whit happened to all the spin this year ?
KevJungle – Every SB purchased = vote for toothless bored
I listen tae yer monkey brain chatter oan here every day and
here’s the thing (copyright Rise of the Guardians) as more you think you’re the only one who sees clearly the more ridiculous you sound..
Kev the Prophet with the Celtic Good News Bible in his haun, naw mate canny see it…
Empty vessels make the maist noise, ain’t that right Shuggy…
MessiahcomplexCSC
weeminger
12:55 on
27 March, 2013
Folk used ‘winning’ as an excuse not to go, remember that?
The year of the whitewash?
We have a core support of 25-35k, I am happy when we get more than that. The rest are our ‘day-out’ support, and they’re most welcome.