Prima facie day is here! Neil Doncaster spent weeks telling us that the SPL had yet to establish if Rangers had a prima facie case to answer in connection with the alleged illegal registration of players. Today he confirmed to the SPL board and the media that they do indeed have a case to answer.
Rangers Employee Benefit Trusts have been the source of considerable controversy since 2010 when it emerged that HMRC had taken action against the club, at the time claiming in the region of £24m. EBTs had been recorded on Rangers accounts for a decade without much comment, so there was no reason to assume the club had made payments to players out-with the oversight of the football authorities.
On 22 February this year Celtic Quick News asked the question, were these EBT payments recorded with the SFA, or did Rangers hide them? There was little reason for the club to hide them, unless, perhaps, they had something to else hide, which was beginning to look the case.
Today we have our answer. Whatever is left of what some regard to be Rangers FC will be subject to some of the most severe disciplinary procedures levelled in the history of football. Appropriate penalties for subverting the game for over a decade are impossible to define.
Celtic fans are not the only ones to lose from this illegal registration of players but they suffered significantly. Five league titles went to Rangers, in 2003, 2005, 2009, 2010 and 2011. All of these titles will be stripped from Rangers records and awarded to Celtic.
You can look forward to 12-in-a-row day soon, which is simply, CHAMPION!
865 Comments- Pages:
- «
- 1
- ...
- 16
- 17
- 18
- 19
- 20
- 21
- 22
- 23
Kit
Mon the cows. Big Daisy just needs to put in one good challenge on McCulloch and she won’t see him again for the whole match.
KevJungle – Murdo 78/87
It means Celtic will accept the result of the vote regarding Club12, they will not mount a legal challenge to have them excluded. Sounds like a reply to a specific question that was asked of him.
If the huns do end up plying their trade in a cow field, they’ll be udder a lot of pressure to get the results required to get out of that mire.
The numbers who would have attended the protest rally would have been ten times as many as attended the one at Ibrox which involved financial contributions then?
Aberdeen ”NO”
Celtic”NO”
Dundee United”NO”
Club 12 (Zombie Huns)”NO”
Hearts”Abstain”
Aberdeen ”NO”
Celtic”NO”
Dundee United”NO”
Club 12 (Zombie Huns)”NO”
Hearts”Abstain”
Hibs”NO”
”HOWZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZAT”
Kit could play out exactly like that and be reported as unanamous. more fun tomorrow bhoys and ghirls. scratcher.
Hugo Rodallega Martínez (born 25 July 1985) is a Colombian footballer who is a free agent after leaving Wigan Athletic. Rodallega started his professional career with Deportes Quindío in 2004. An impressive first season with the club earned him a call-up to represent Colombia at the U-20 South American Championship in 2005, where he went on to set a new record for most goals scored in the tournament.
A move to Deportivo Cali and his senior international debut followed later in the year before he moved abroad, signing for Mexican Primera División side Monterrey. A disappointing spell resulted in a loan move to Atlas before being transferred to Necaxa in 2007.
In January 2009, he moved to Wigan Athletic for a fee of £4.5 million. After initially struggling at the club, he finished as the club’s top goalscorer in his first full Premier League season.
He scored 24 goals for the club, making him Wigan Athletic’s all-time leading Premier League goalscorer.
Lenny Murdoch wiki CSC
kitalba on 19 June, 2012 at 11:40 said:
hamiltontim:
I spent a few hours on the Falkirk, Airdrie, Hearts, Kilmarnock and other sites last night, the majority, not vast but nearly, do not want the huns in any league.
How many would like to see us follow them? I too am surprised to see the antipathy shown towards Rangers. I don’t think we’d be far behind them in the “most hated” stakes though. Aberdeen are down as blocking Newco’s entry into the SPL. As a bridge building exercise on opening day should we sing to their fans “YOU HATE RANGERS MORE THAN US!”
Ole Protestants have suddenly become protest averse.
Would people kindly stop milking the cow field analogy?
rangers director Dave King believes the club needs generous donations on a non-commercial basis to move forward and can not rely on ticket revenue to climb out of their predicament.
And it gladdens the heart to know Duff&Duffer p1ssed away the money collected in the fighting fund…
I’ll do that again…
Aberdeen ”NO”
Celtic”NO”
Dundee United”NO”
Club 12 (Zombie Huns)”YES WATP GSTQ”
Hearts”Abstain”
Hibs”NO”
” HOWZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZAT”
Silver City 1888
Don’t get mad… GET EVEN.
ASonOfDan – I think a few now looking at Green as another Craigy bhoy.
Green is worse than Whyte.
Whyte, for all his bug-eyed financial prestidigitation and irrepressible fabulism, is basically a nice, softly-spoken boy who went to Kelvinside Academy. He may or may not end up doing time, but at least he’s not a ned. I wouldn’t trust Craig with my pension fund, but I’d trust him not to make a scene at a dinner party.
Green is one of the worst types of people: an elderly would-be-bully and the Yorkshire equivalent of a ned in a suit. He’s a geriatric corner boy with a reputation for inviting people to resolve disputes in the car park.
He’s a chancer, a loud-mouth, a spiv. He probably didn’t even go to a good school. (thumbsup)
philvisreturns
“the Yorkshire equivalent of a ned in a suit”.
I just wish he would have it dry-cleaned.
new article posted.
Gordon Cowfield Smith treats these daft puns with udder contempt.
topkat on 19 June, 2012 at 11:32 said:
No worries, sally will demand to know the names of those who voted no….
Hamilton
Enough BS..!
The ole CQN cow patter is ledge end dairy.
On 4 July Dungcaster should present an assessment report indicating that sevco 5088 does not meet the entrance criteria for SPL membership. That is clear.
Whether he does so is clearly debateable and of concern.
Let’s assume he doesn’t.
The proposal here is not sevco 5088 applying for an UNALLOCATED or NEW share it is applying for an EXISTING share to be TRANSFERRED to it.
That share is held by RFC (IL) PLC. This body (on life support but comatose and brain dead) still currently holds the share and will NOT be actually liquidated until the SPL consider a vote on TRANSFER of it’s share. It has to be kept alive in this state because if there were to be a power cut and the body died, the share would not be eligible for TRANSFER it would have to be RETURNED to the owner (the SPL).
sevco would then have to apply to be ALLOCATED a share rather than have it TRANSFERRED.
So sevco 5088 want the share TRANSFERRED.
That would suggest that the SHARE REMAINS ALIVE AND ACTIVE WITHOUT INTERRUPTION.
So what does a share mean? Simply it is a share of the SPL business. Let’s assume that the shares are NEUTRAL. That is, that they do not imbue any title, name, legal entity or standing other than a 1/12th stake in the business of the SPL.
The SHARE is not a CLUB. This is important in this scenario because sevco 5088 wants everyone to believe not only that it is a CLUB but that it is THE CLUB.
So, what makes a CLUB and is that more or less inportant than having a 1/12 SHARE of the SPL?
A CLUB must have a ground, players, an appropriate set of governance documents (I suspect sevco 5088 governance says nothing about football at this point) and amongst other things 3 years of financially audited accounts.
Let’s assume that the SPL set aside the test of a CLUB and allocate a SHARE in their business to sevco 5088 on 4 July, under a share TRANSFER consideration. The SPL can then apply any CONDITIONS it wants to on sevco 5088 as part of that acceptance to TRANSFER the share.
This would mean that sevco 5088 owned a ground, a training ground, probably some players and a share in the SPL (even though it is not eligible to hold such). Let’s also assume that they have received some unspecified CONDITIONS to go with this which they have accepted.
The ball then passed from Dungcaster to RayBans at the SFA. This is because (allegedly) membership (a SHARE) of the SPL confers automatic membership of the SFA. But Tweet rayBans has a problem. He knows that sevco 5088 under the rules should fail the test for both SPL and SFA membership. Does he confirm that he MUST accept this or does he confirm that the SPL has operated ULTRA VIRES in allocating the SHARE? Oh dear tweeter………. what a mess!
However, back to the main point. Because the SHARE TRANSFERS, the SPL can attach ANY CONDITIONS (note not PUNISHMENTS) to that transfer process that it seees fit.
In terms of PUNISHMENT, only oldco can be PUNISHED, because only oldco done the CRIME.
So if a CONDITIONAL SPL SHARE TRANSFER were accepted by sevco 5088 does that confer that it has INHERITED RANGERS as a football CLUB?
The logical answer to this is no. Rangers Football Club 1872-2012 will then die (be LIQUIDATED) after the SPL SHARE is transferred out of its control and (temporary) ownership.
BUT if sevco 5088 want to adopt the trade name of Rangers, it’s colours badges and styles, unless the SPL PRECLUDE this in their CONDITIONS, I cannot see why they cannot and will not put on the mask and assert that that is who they are.
Just because the madman thinks he’s Napoleon doesn’t make him so……but if people believe or accept that he is, then he will be TREATED as such.
This is why the TRANSFER issue is so important and so vital to the charade.
A failure to achieve TRANSFER means that sevco 5088 would have to seek entry to football through an APPLICATION. An APPLICATION does not guarantee entry to either the SPL or the SFL, requires more time and effort and carries greater unceratinty for sevco 5088.
So let’s ensure that RFC (IL) is properly INVESTIGATED and PUNISHED.
Let’s ensure that an SPL SHARE currently held by RFC (IL) is NOT TRANSFERRED to sevco 5088.
Let’s ensure that both the SPL and the SFA APPLY THEIR OWN RULES appropriately and indicate to sevco 5088 that, when it has run a football CLUB for a time that allows for 3 years audited accounts to be presented, an application may then be VALID.
We have of course a whole range of players attempting to provide a solution that UNDERMINES, AVOIDS and COMPROMISES the rule book predicated on the IDEA that opening IBROX, wearing BLUE and shouting WE ARE THE PEEPIL somehow makes you a football CLUB.
HH
Is that field in Ayrshire called Irvine Meadow?
Cowpats would have to be renamed cowbillys.
Have seen one or two posters asking if we will find out how each club chairman voted. In my opinion, if new club are not allowed into the SPL, we shouldn’t get too hung up on how each club voted. Let’s move on knowing that a lot of Scottish football fans are fair minded people and brought pressure to bear on their clubs to do the right thing. They’re obviously not all mini huns and if the vote goes as expected – no to new club – we should try to do our best to ensure that the SPL is a success. We should forget about boycotts against any of the remaining clubs.
Just my opinion.
Gordon j…,
“I think it is clear that Rangers FC PLC (in administration) will be allowed to vote on 4 July. I don’t think it should happen, but it will.”
and if they are Liquidated before the 4th
regardless of any transfer, if sevco lay claim to RFC(ia/l) in fact, ‘we’re really ranjurz!’ then HMRC will be perfectly entitled to chase them for outstanding tax on TUPE transfered staff, if sevco copped last year’s prize money, they also cop the liabilities.
The bizzies will be all over The Whatever the Hell thet Call Themselves like a TESCO suit.
Anyone know what happened to chuckleheid’s £5M? Has it been trousered by D&P or used to pay creditors or used to cover day to day running costs?
Surely it’s not found it’s way into an off-shore bank acc?
All will become clear when the (late) audited accounts are submitted to the SPL, hopefully they haven’t missed the latest deadline, as this would mean they are in breach of membership.
According to SSN Walter Nosurname DOES INDEED do walking away.
BidwithdrawalCSC
italics