Prima facie day is here! Neil Doncaster spent weeks telling us that the SPL had yet to establish if Rangers had a prima facie case to answer in connection with the alleged illegal registration of players. Today he confirmed to the SPL board and the media that they do indeed have a case to answer.
Rangers Employee Benefit Trusts have been the source of considerable controversy since 2010 when it emerged that HMRC had taken action against the club, at the time claiming in the region of £24m. EBTs had been recorded on Rangers accounts for a decade without much comment, so there was no reason to assume the club had made payments to players out-with the oversight of the football authorities.
On 22 February this year Celtic Quick News asked the question, were these EBT payments recorded with the SFA, or did Rangers hide them? There was little reason for the club to hide them, unless, perhaps, they had something to else hide, which was beginning to look the case.
Today we have our answer. Whatever is left of what some regard to be Rangers FC will be subject to some of the most severe disciplinary procedures levelled in the history of football. Appropriate penalties for subverting the game for over a decade are impossible to define.
Celtic fans are not the only ones to lose from this illegal registration of players but they suffered significantly. Five league titles went to Rangers, in 2003, 2005, 2009, 2010 and 2011. All of these titles will be stripped from Rangers records and awarded to Celtic.
You can look forward to 12-in-a-row day soon, which is simply, CHAMPION!
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Kitalba I already owe you a gisbourne grape but one.. really , not even Killie??
Starry
Hamiltonm posh???
My you have been away a long time :-)
Kit
I really hope you’re correct. On what basis do you believe this?
Ra Ra Rasputin
Yes I can see that and would agree that would be the way one would expect the legal docs to read, leaving the consequences of playing football in 2011/2012 with Rangers PLC.
However, the award of that money must surely be subject to the rules of the association that made the award.
It has been suggested elsewhere that some £900k of 2nd place money has been witheld– presumably as a result of past punishments and/or in terms of the league rules governing either football debts or some such. Which suggests that the financials for league business etc is thus far incomplete.
Of Course it is reprehensible that the money was ever paid over in the first place.
Tony McKelvie @TonyMcKelvie
While it’s a breach of the rules to pay players outside of contract, fielding ineligible players is an altogether bigger problem. FIFA size!
Internet Bampots warming up now..
Mon the Bams
Starry – she says she accepts your apology and is sorry for getting upset. She’s feeling a wee bit emotional just now. Doesn’t know why…
RogueLeader
Agree with you, a couple of weeks ago we were struggling to name 4 teams who would vote No. Now we are struggling to name 4 teams who will say Yes.
Stupid huns own fault with their arrogance and ‘We don’t do apologising’.
JohnnyClash at 11:25 said:
‘Walter Rally cancelled! According to Leggo:
“Police were worried at the numbers who were keen to join the march to tell Charles Green he is not wanted. And they feared they would not be able to cope, as their intelligence reports were telling them that anything up to 50,000 supporters were set to muster in Bellahouston Park before marching on The Stadium.”
I’m sorry, I can’t help it …
BWAHAHAHAHAHAH
Nad yet … perhaps that Police statement has been bastardised:
It would actually make sense if it read: “Police were worried that their intelligence reports were telling them that a combined IQ of up something around 50,000 would muster at Bellahouston Park …”
Celtic_first @ 11.25 – a very good analogy.
Will we get to know who voted for or against thems when the time comes or will it be kept a secret
The loyal cardigan, is he still away getting a sun tan or has he actually came back to try and save ‘The rangers’.
A true rangers man.
lol!
The Pantaloon Duck on 19 June, 2012 at 11:31 said:
Ah ha guitar Moontime always a tricky one, a candle and a massage would be best..
Kayal33 on 19 June, 2012 at 11:28 said:
who and when will the first player break ranks and sign for another club?
That’s an interesting point that seems to have gone quiet both from the players themselves and the SPFA , especially as the tranfer window is open .
What are people being told when asking about signing players from RFCIL or new club ?
Once the players start leaving I reckon the reality of events will start to hit even harder for fans of new club .
JP
NZ:
“Gentlemen we come to the vote regards to Rangers PLC being allowed to transfer their license to The Rangers and the Rangers being accepted into the Premier League.”
“Protocol dictates we do this in alphabetical order…”
“Scribe if you could please record the results. We begin with Aberdeen.”
Aberdeen ”NO”
Celtic”NO”
Dundee United”NO”
Dundee”NO”
Hearts”NO”
Hibs”NO”
“Scribe please close the book and record that a vote to allow The Rangers into the 2012/13 Premier League was not carried. No need to add any further names to the list”.
Kit
Dundee won’t get to take part.
Duff&Duffer already confirmed as voting on Club12’s behalf.
Will the stupid stupid huns still be backing Watty of Beige Cardigan if they find out he was licking some of the cream off the top of the EBT pie?
Yes- we KNOW these pioneers of degeneracy will: & the wonder why they are in the mess they’re in!
Evolution would have forced extinction on these dysgenic brain drained recidivistic mutants…but Scottish football is giving them a second chance…maybe the second time they can bring us all down with them.
Posted by weeJamsieF on Twitter, check these few minutes of idiotic ramblings and whataboutery by James McMillan of RSA.
It never fails to amaze me the halfwits who head their supporters groups.
John Beattie’s closing words says it all.
http://m.soundcloud.com/#/jinkylarsson/john-mcmillan-rsa-getting
I am NL in NZ Tauranga on 19 June, 2012 at 11:24 said:
Supporter’s reaction has astonished me. I expected maybe 2 or 3 club’s fans to put pressure on their chairmen but certainly not fans of Hearts, Motherwell etc.
I’m just hoping that their feelings are enough.
Celtic_First
I know, but that is academic.
kitalba on 19 June, 2012 at 11:35 said:
surely Club 12 “YES” comes after Celtic??
As something of a wine alley aficionado there are were lots in Scotland/Glasgow.
The unforgettable Govan version which ran parallel with Broomloan Rd in behind the
Celtic end, was raised to the ground in the 1990’s.
The one in Hamilton I recall ran between the Whitehill housing scheme and Burnbank and is also long gone.
Pinot Grigio CSC
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hamiltontim:
I spent a few hours on the Falkirk, Airdrie, Hearts, Kilmarnock and other sites last night, the majority, not vast but nearly, do not want the huns in any league.
Jings, I never thought I’d hear that name again: ‘The dysgenic brain drained recidivistic mutants.’
I’m sure someone said a while back that they were still haunted by the memory of their gig at the Ol’ Burns Howf …
FF
Kayal33:
mate again academic, IMO (of course).
Kit
Fair play. I love a bit of poetic licence myself.
Kayal33:
apologies if you were alluding to Club 12 being the Zombie Huns. The Zombie Huns are the last to vote.
I think we can safely assume now, with each day passing and the scandal deepening there won’t be another ole, – Sir Walter Rally.
Cloak CSC
Bourne
I’m sure that Rutherglen still has a few.
If the Dundee Utd chairman is anything to go by. No to Club12!
“I’d have my doubts whether they’d get sufficient votes to get back in,” said Thompson.
“There’s been a lack of remorse shown. Views have hardened.
Taking things to a court of law hasn’t helped. That’s certainly hardened views of people within the game.”
Morning CQNer’s
Just dropped in to ask…
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Margaret McGill on 19 June, 2012 at 03:41 said:
Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on 19 June, 2012 at 03:34 said:
“James Forrest told us PL said there will be no legal challenge when newco is admittedinto the spl.”
.. Is this true?
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Does anyone know what the above was all about ????mmmmm
I’ll drop back in later to answer any replie’s.
God Bless
Hail Hail
JohnnyClash@11:25
Looks as though ol’ Leggo has been on the Grey Goose again
Contrary to reports, the march has not been cancelled due to ‘police intelligence’
It was the low turnout which was worrying Grandmaster Suck + his band of bigots
More than a few ‘defunct bears’ are wanting Smith + the Phoenix Nights to GTF. They quite rightly, are wondering where these ‘saviours’ were 4 months ago. The ‘defunct bears’ support is split down the middle on who to follow, follow
kitalba on 19 June, 2012 at 11:40 said:
hamiltontim:
I spent a few hours on the Falkirk, Airdrie, Hearts, Kilmarnock and other sites last night, the majority, not vast but nearly, do not want the huns in any league.
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I know but unfortunately it ain’t the supporters who vote.
Kilmarnock’s Chairman, Johnston has already said that he thinks rangers have been punished enough and that was after a mere 10 point deduction for entering administration.
hamiltontim
Ha – Touche * a direct hit in fencing terms *
Where is ole Voguepunter when he’s needed?
I’m sure legnedary “Rangers man” Walter must have handed over his EBT money to the Rangers Fighting Fund, to help his beloved club in its hour of need… right? (thumbsup)
If the truth be known I think Hearts, and a couple of others, will abstain, but I believe the only one who will vote ‘yes’ will be the Zombie Huns.
The first five to vote (club 12 exempted) will carry four votes against and one club abstains and the huns will be playing in the cow field out the back of Derek’s pub in Kilmacolm.
The vote issue, if you read back all the chairmen had been convinced by Green at that last meeting that the CVA would be accepted. They honestly did not think they had a decision to make.
I think a few now looking at Green as another Craigy bhoy.
Also, with the EBT investigation now saying they were at it for years they will not be able to vote for them and convince their own fans it was for the best.
Bourne
My guess is that he’s in either one of two places:-
armchair
or
Chopper
KevJungle – Murdo 78/87:
In a word… Hearsay.