Earlier this year I wrote that the pyrotechnics problem was one of the free rider. There are reputational and Uefa fine costs to Celtic, but the perpetrators hide among a crowd, so encounter no costs. Celtic pay the fines, Celtic fans, as a group, carry the reputational damage, those who create the problem act with impunity.
Two who set flares in Istanbul have been identified and banned by the club. This ban will prevent them attending away fixtures in Europe for a considerable time, but it will not prevent them walking through turnstiles at Celtic Park, or some other Scottish grounds. Celtic have announced that they are considering their position and may raise a civil action to recover fines imposed –aligning consequences with actions.
Whenever I hear someone ‘considering their position’ I don’t expect them to act. Those who act tend to only provide advanced notice when legally obliged to do so. There is a flip side to this, however. If Celtic raise an action the issue is dead – it will not happen again. If Celtic don’t raise an action it may well happen again. Steps to hide identities will be improved, perhaps making it impossible to identify another offender. The stock defence of football clubs, “We’ve done everything we could”, will not wash.
It’s only 12 years since 80,000 Celtic fans went to Seville and didn’t so much as spill a drink. What chance that now?
When they were at their peak, 1.2million miners went down the pits in Britain. Before the pits, the population of Lanarkshire was a fraction of what it is now. They build railways in the late 19th century, allowing coal to be taken to the cities and ports, and people were drawn to places like Bellshill, Motherwell, Coatbridge and Wishaw.
This subsequent years saw the greatest migration from Ireland to Scotland, and an enormous migration from rural to urban Scotland. People came to Lanarkshire to work in the coal industry, and to Glasgow and other surrounding towns to work related industries, like shipping and heavy engineering.
The work was almost always dirty, often dangerous and inevitably poorly paid. Poverty and its associated diseases, including social diseases, were difficult to escape. Even today, the twin towns of Hamilton (a market town established for centuries) and Motherwell (a 19th century town established by the coal and steel industries) are separated by a significant gap in employment opportunities, property values and wealth. Physically they are only two miles apart, you can walk between them in minutes.
Football was the real opium of the masses. They worked five and a half days a week, on their half day they went to a game. Entrance was cheap, even the poor could attend, all boys could play, all men could talk a good game (it remained a predominantly male pastime for decades).
Coal, and its by-products: railways and heavy industry, shaped the industrial towns of Scotland, Wales and much of England. Without it, cricket would be our national game (it was once popular even in Scotland). You wouldn’t have Celtic.
Today the last miner will emerge from a British pit, in Kellingley, North Yorkshire. The pits around Lanarkshire are long gone, and there are few bings left. Jobs now are cleaner and safer, but we’ve lost a link to something Celtic fans value more than most, our heritage.
Speaking of which, get to Celtic Park before 13:00 tomorrow. Wallow in the abundant heritage that is Billy McNeill!
We’re shipping same day from CQN Bookstore, but there’s not long left before Christmas!
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DD … for some reason, I figured he would be one of your favourites.
Not just candy crush now William hill bookies
Wonderful
Night bhoys, well flounce for an hour or so☘☘⚽️⚽️
Just one more very quick sleep…………
Canny believe there’s a CRC quiz tonight and I’m heading out!!!
Would have romped it as well!!
HH
CRc….would be great if u could make it a regular event
And rmember, still 3 hours to enter LMS6. We’ve just registered the 80th entrant – please help us to get to 88.
cqnpredictor@gmail.com
here’s one of my favourites singers with one of my favourite songs … sort of how I am feeling about Celtic at the moment …. love them, even if I suspect it will lead to heartbreak … Tom Waits… I hope that I dont fall in love with you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSe2k3P8wRE
Ok Bhoys and Ghirls, and welcome back to the Friday night Quiz.
Its been a while!
Our Christmas Special edition tonight contains 5 rounds of all things Celtic, including some old favourite rounds peppered with a dash of honest mistakes no doubt
There will be prizes (thank you Winning Captains) for the top 3 teams in the quiz that have registered for Last Man Standing6 (LMS6) by 9pm.
1st prize: Set of 4 CQN badges ( No 5-8), 1 set of CQN cufflinks, Winds of Change book and Total Larsson DVD
2nd prize:Set of 2 CQN badges ( No 7-8), Winds of Change book and Total Larsson DVD
3rd prize:Winds of Change book and Total Larsson DVD – See more at:
Everybody welcome to join or just lurk in the background. Rules are simple. Answer the questions before me and without googling. One submission accepted per person per round
Good luck, Round 1 follows
HH
CRC
standing at the centre circle, black boot on top of ball, waiting on the whistle
Round 1
If you know the your Celtic Christmas history?
(2pts for each first correct answer posted, 1pt if correct but not first posted)
1 How many times has Celtic played a game on Christmas day (0,5,10,15 or 20)?
2 Which 2 teams have Celtic played the most on Christmas day( clue: 1 from the SPFL; 1 from league 2)?
3 Which current Scottish Championship side ( not a tribute act) has been the only team to beat Celtic on Christmas Day?
4 Which current SPFL team was the last team to play the Hoops on Christmas day?
5 What year in the 70s was the game in question 4 played?
6 Which Christmas song was adapted and sung by The Green Brigade in 2014? Song and original artist please
7 True or False. The first floodlight game at Celtic Park was held on Boxing Day?
ready
1. 5
2. Motherwell and Clyde
3. Falkirk
4. MOtherwell
5. 1971
6. Last Christmas by Wham!
7. True (by Spandau Ballet!)
1 15
2 Well and QP
3 Falkirk
4 Well
5 73
6 Wham Last Christmas
7 Falsse
1. 15
2. Dundee, Clyde
3. Queen of the South
4. Hearts
5. 1971
6. Last Christmas – Wham
7. True
1 How many times has Celtic played a game on Christmas day – 10
2 Which 2 teams have Celtic played the most on Christmas day – motherwell and hibs
3 Which current Scottish Championship side ( not a tribute act) has been the only team to beat Celtic on Christmas Day? – Morton
4 Which current SPFL team was the last team to play the Hoops on Christmas day? Hearts
5 What year in the 70s was the game in question 4 played? 1973
6 Which Christmas song was adapted and sung by The Green Brigade in 2014? Song and original artist please
do you know a handsome reindeer m no no..
7 True or False. The first floodlight game at Celtic Park was held on Boxing Day?
CELTICROLLERCOASTER SUPPORTING SHAY,OUR BHOY WONDER ALONG THE WAY on 18TH DECEMBER 2015 9:01 PM
Round 1
If you know the your Celtic Christmas history?
(2pts for each first correct answer posted, 1pt if correct but not first posted)
1 How many times has Celtic played a game on Christmas day (0,5,10,15 or 20)? 5
2 Which 2 teams have Celtic played the most on Christmas day( clue: 1 from the SPFL; 1 from league 2)? Dundee Utd Clyde
3 Which current Scottish Championship side ( not a tribute act) has been the only team to beat Celtic on Christmas Day? Falkirk
4 Which current SPFL team was the last team to play the Hoops on Christmas day? Dundee Utd
5 What year in the 70s was the game in question 4 played? 1974
6 Which Christmas song was adapted and sung by The Green Brigade in 2014? Song and original artist please
7 True or False. The first floodlight game at Celtic Park was held on Boxing Day?
7. false
1. 5
2 hearts
3 Morton
4 hearts
5 1974
6 last Christmas george Michael
7 false
15
Jags Queens Park
St Mirren
1970
Last Christmas Wham
True
6 Last Christmas Wham
7 True
Bloody phone!!!!
1.10
2.Motherwell
3. Morton
4. Hearts
5. 1974
6.Winter wonderland ???
7. T
10
Partick Thistle & Queens Park
Dumbarton
Falkirk
1970
Wham Last Christmas
False
Oh I see xmas day
fallen at the first
internt issues cant take part CRC. Taking to long to load page
CRC
I missed Hearts for question 4 sorry.
2 more minutes
1. 5
2. Falkirk/Hearts
3. Flkirk
4. Hearts
5.1971
6. pass
7. false
1 more sleep….
For a Christmas Quiz – do we need 3 Wise Men and a donkey?
Answers to round 1 ( remember 1 submission only per round)
15
Kilmarnock Queens Park Both 3 times
QoS
Hearts
1971
Last Christmas Wham
FALSE It was Christmas Day (1893 v Clyde)
SFTB
where you gonna get 3 wise men this time of night?
SFTB
Bags the donkey. Obviously. :)
Leaderboard after round 1
8 Gary67
8 setting free the bears
6 Jobo Balde
4 Praecepta
4 Delaneys Dunky
3 Celtic Mac
1 Saint Stivs
1 Margaret McGill
0 Hamilton Tim
Maggie
If we all keep drinking 3 of us might become wiser
DD has already bagged the donkey. fair enough.
Round 2
If you know your Club Captain stats? Head to head League Appearances.
Who has had the most competitive league starts for Celtic in the following head to heads?
(2pts for each first correct answer posted, 1pt if correct but not first posted)
1 Neil Lennon v Kenny Dalglish
2 Roy Aitken v Billy McNeill
3 Stephen McManus v Paul Lambert
4 Bobby Evans v Tommy Boyd
5 Danny McGrain v Paul McStay
Is bagging the donkey the same as interfering with the goat?
1 Neil Lennon
2 Billy McNeill
3 Stephen McManus
4 Bobby Evans
5 Danny McGrain