Rangers today relaxed their ban on the BBC, issued after a documentary with contributions from two former Rangers directors was screened last month. The BBC booked a paying gig at Ibrox for this afternoon’s game against Dundee United, if Rangers stuck to their principles they would have missed a media payment from the SPL.
Tune in to BBC Scotland this afternoon and listen to the sound of licence payers’ money strut its stuff from Ibrox.
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kNOWYOURENEMY/mwd
Both your posts show the REALITY of what is happening and will happen.
There is too much wishful and emotional posting on the Huns situation,that the reality of it is rarely conceived.
i’m ,away to the game now.
C’mon the Hoops.
TT
MWD
And so it begins .
He said: “It comes back to the tax bill. At the time David Murray was wanting to sell the club the debt was about £20m and I would have thought that was chicken feed as you’re heading up an institution, and one that was maybe bringing in £12m from the Champions League.
So there we have it more evidence that ragers are an institution but what kind of institution
in·sti·tu·tion
1.an organization, establishment, foundation, society, or the like, devoted to the promotion of a particular cause or program, especially one of a public, educational, or charitable character: This college is the best institution of its kind.
2.the building devoted to such work.
3.a public or private place for the care or confinement of inmates, especially mental patients or other disabled or handicapped persons.
4.Sociology. a well-established and structured pattern of behavior or of relationships that is accepted as a fundamental part of a culture, as marriage: the institution of the family.
5.any established law, custom, etc.
I would love one of these peepil to elaborate as to what definition of institution they think describes ragers Expect more of the same bhoys as the tax man has been dealt with ,it only leaves the re entry to the spl for the newco to deal with and it looks like we will be told to do as ragers say if we know whats good for us .
hail hail
In fact anyone sitting anywhere in the ground should be plastered in sunscreen and be sporting their finest polarising Raybans. It wont be the sun that will be bothering you, it will be the dazzling beams of scintillating football from a Celtic team exploding like a sunflare and turning firpark into a super nova as they burn up the grass, melt the hearts and create the first verifiable big bang since the universe was first formed on 6th November 1887 (The history of Space and Time according to Estadio).
Today Celtic will outsprint a Neutrino, outthink Einstein, outplay Manitas de Plata and turn football into the new language of the Gods.
Hail hail
Estadio
Geoff Brown should stop and consider that if Rangers loss the big tax case, his team – like every other team in Scotland- have been cheated by Rangers on an industrial scale for the past 10-15 years or so.
So a mild slap on the wrists is required?
The game deserves to go down here in Scotland if this is typical of the view of the other clubs.
know/abye
My take on the small tax bill is that the 2.8m is agreed and SHOULD have been paid ,there is no dispute regards that at all .
the dispute seems to be with the penalties .Story has it CWs lawyers tried to argue that is was DMs debt and got their wrist slapped .
Someone at the time described it as laughable ,delaying tactics .
hail hail
Estadio says:
6 November, 2011 at 09:43
You’re awfully clear headed this morning,you not out yesterday?
We’ve not been good at early kick offs, so we need a decent start fir a change. We have Thursday’s performance to build on and hopefully a similar line up. Get into them from the kick off and get the first goal. That will make things a lot more comfortable.
Managed to get some early pictures of what is happening at Fir Park. Remarkable preparation by Celtic (with a little help from me)
Celtic leave nothing to chance for today’s game
Hail Hail
Estadio
Vogue….
I think you may be on the money there. Stayed in and ‘read a book’!!
Not doin that again!
hail hail
Estadio
Estadio says:
6 November, 2011 at 09:26
Kit
Check out the trains as well.
Estadio, I liked your descriptive post and could almost feel the first glass or red hitting the spot; smell the freshly baked bread from McDonalds bakery, and, full and satisfied, taste that fish supper after a convincing Celtic win.
You are almost as good as the late great Ian Archer who began his article on a trip to Aberdeen with Big Jock in 1972 thus:
The day of any big match starts early. Queen Street was full long before break¬fast and Celtic players were signing autographs almost before their eyes were fully opened writes Ian Archer.
It was a special day even for Jock Stein, who toyed restlessly with the rather pleasant plate of sole that British Rail provided for us as the burns and bunkers of Carnoustie slipped by lit by a piercing sun.
“This is what it should be all about,” he said. “Big matches, big occasions. Sometimes I go home after we have beaten a club by a big score and ask myself what precisely we have achieved. Up here a draw would be a good result, but even if we get beaten I won’t be depressed. I’ll think that we have given something to the game.”
The talk turned to smaller leagues, a better format for the Scottish football scene. It was at Pittodrie three hours later that the vast possibili¬ties that the game so often squanders became so obvious.
The gates were shut before the match even started, leav¬ing the 36,000 who had come early short of breathing space but full of expectancy for a game that every season now lives up to its billing as a moving High Noon situation.
………………..I could almost smell the coffee on that Buffet Car!
Big Nan
Ian Archer had an advantage over me…he had a brain, and wasn’t trying to post with one finger while stirring the porridge with the other and sending texts with…..guess what. Now Glasgow does indeed have talent!
You just have to be careful not to get them mixed up and stir the porridge with…..ooooowwwwww!!!
MY NOSE!!!!
Hail hail
Estadio
Know Your Enemy
I believe you should go and straighten out your FACTS re. The small tax bill.
And that sir is in actual FACT a FACT
MWD
MWD@09:20
I was just about to post Brown’s comments till i saw you had done so
He is one of Murrays biggest boot lickers so the article doesn’t surprise me, although i wonder what the St Johnstone fans think considering the Huns beat them in the SC semi in 2008 with players that they couldn’t otherwise afford?
Ignore the Hun posting. He has already posted twice incorrect facts about their tax bill. They remain in denial until the proverbial hits the fan circa Feb/March
Off to Fir Park we go. 2-1 Celtic
Knowyourenemy says:
6 November, 2011 at 09:29
Auld Neil Lennon heid says:
6 November, 2011 at 09:09
True for EBTs but not true for the £2.8M that HMRC have had to ring fence because that bill remains unpaid.
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Again, not accurate. The lower tax bill is disputed with negotiations ongoing. It will only be unpaid, if negotiations break down and the club are required to pay, which they have have already agreed to do. The sum has been ringfenced to ensure payment should the amount be required to be paid.
If a plumber charged you for work and you disputed the bill would you pay the full sum whilst in negotiations with him over the amount ?
Be factually correct gentlemen.
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If it is disputed how did HMRC get it ring fenced? If it were disputed that of itself would have placed it in the same category as the EBT.
A part of the wee bill is disputed, the fine I think, but the main element is way overdue.
Sheriff Officers do not pay a call to get a disputed bill paid, the pay a call to get a bill that should have been paid, paid. Judges do not ringfence disputed bills, there is no need, the dispute process covers it.
The wee tax bill of £2.8 M is way overdue. Nice try.
The huns will not have to pay the big tax bill.
Because the BBC will pay it for them.
Craig Whyte said so, and Craig Whyte never lies. FACT.
Moonbeams WD. \o/ Supporting Neil Lennon 100%. C’mon the hoops. says:
6 November, 2011 at 10:15
To be fair to nye he is correct to challenge us regards the facts of the small tax case ,as we have stated that the 2.8m is a bill now due ,where as we should really be stating that the 2.8m is a bill now OVERDUE .
hail hail
The huns have agreed that the small tax bill is due. They haven’t appealed it. They’re disputing the penalty, not the bill itself. FACT.
Good morning all, did we ever learn the significance of the 27th & 28th. October as reference Phil?
Remember remember admin in November.
Morning bhoys,cooler and still hun free
Knowyourenemy says:
6 November, 2011 at 09:29
Wrong
If that arsehole Geoff brown thinks we’ll let that scum back in he’s got another thing coming.
The scum have cheated their way to titles and our club are trying to run a tight ship.
That scumbag has done nothing for us and never has so he can go Fk.
The power is in our hands and we will make this difficult for the scum just to swanny back in to the SPL.
Public Service Announcement for fans travelling to the game today by train.
Sibling huns have been known to engage in sexual congress in the lift at Motherwell Railway Station. FACT.
Be careful out there.
kitalba
Are you about?
SwanseaBhoy
How Bosnia’s pioneering footballers are succeeding where the politicians failed
I love it when the currants try and make up for the lack of intelligence with the misuse of the word “fact”. It’s almost like they view the word fact as some sort of charmed amulet that misleads tims of all shapes and sizes. You can take that fact to the bank.
Moonbeams WD. \o/ Supporting Neil Lennon 100%. C’mon the hoops. says:
6 November, 2011 at 09:20
He said: “It comes back to the tax bill. At the time David Murray was wanting to sell the club the debt was about £20m and I would have thought that was chicken feed as you’re heading up an institution, and one that was maybe bringing in £12m from the Champions League.
“I honestly didn’t see it as being a problem.
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And there is the problem, he does not see the inherent risk on RELYING on CL money to keep debt manageable. Once you rely on it, you have to have it, like a drug, and once it becomes a necessity anything goes in its pursuit.
Until such times as the distribution of UEFA money is addressed we are going to have integrity questions and clubs risking administration when there is only one CL money winner. Had Celtic won the title in 2009 chances are Rangers would have gone under. Now had their been a more healthy rivalry, this would have been seen as bad an idea then as the ST J chairman sees it now.
It is a fundamental issue that Scottish Football needs to grasp, not be ignorant of.
hen1rik says:
6 November, 2011 at 10:25
That’s what I like ,a mhan who get’s straight to the point,MAGIC.:O)
ernie
Aye that is a FACT
I read that here
Is anyone able to explain why we’re kicking of at midday today?
I understand the scheduling issue with Sky where they don’t want to broadcast the game in competition to their EPL Sunday menu, but this is ESPN today, who are following our game with an English rugby fixture.
Has the Scottish game fallen so far that it is worth less as an advertising platform than Wasps v Saints?
Dear HMRC,
Please don’t let the Ragers go into Administration.
* when I’m not looking *
If the £2.8m tax bill has been agreed by both parties, why doesn’t HMRC collect it instead of ring fencing it?
Does the ring fenced amount accrue interest?
If so, do the huns hace access to the interest?
TBB
So we don’t exactly clash with Real madrid v Osasuna.
:0)
Paddy Gallagher
Re your query on the significance of end of October…..see Phil McGiollaBhain’s explanation here:
http://www.philmacgiollabhain.ie/source-material/
SwanseaBhoy
….. Meanwhile, a brainless Orc searches the Internet in vain to try and prove his facts.
“what do you mean ra rangers really are in trouble, they really are just about to collapse?, naw we arra peepul, we arra master race”.
Fraid not, it’s bye bye time. I’d like to say it’s been a pleasure, but it hasn’t.
I noticed one of the ads on the site asking for your “20:22” moment and it got me thinking!
Maybe the 20:22 moment will be when the Rankers go into admin?
The YEAR 2022 that is!!! The way this keeps dragging on and on and on!
All the while thems will be winning titles and laughing up their sleeves while we moan about PL, wonder who buys the players, is Lenny the right man for the job and discuss boycotts again!
The solution to our woes is SIMPLE!
BUY one quality CB
BUY one quality midfielder
BUY one quality striker
NO MORE PROJECTS
NO MORE HAS BEEN LOAN DEALS.
Root and branch reform of SFA would be good too.
0-4 Celtic today (Stokes 2, Sammi 1, Forrest 1)
‘mon the Hoops!
Any team news apart from that twit Ledley’s tweet?
In a survey of 1000 Rangers supporters by Rangers Survey Services
1690 supporters agreed the world is flat.
AND THAT IS ANOTHER FACT
MWD
SwanseaBhoy says:
6 November, 2011 at 10:38
Much appreciated mate – thanks.