Referring to a team no longer with us

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Let’s be clear, you cannot punish a player on the basis that he has made a comment which is only offensive, offence is subjective, highly so in Scottish football, where thousands await the opportunity.

Nor can you punish a player for a derogatory remark which may offend, especially if the remark does not call into question the probity of the subject.  “Hearts are rotten, we beat them easily twice this season”, is a derogatory remark and will offend some Hearts fans, but it also falls into the category of being a fair opinion.

And without pointing out the obvious, you cannot offend the dead.  John Guidetti and the club are right to contest this ridiculous charge, which by context, clearly refers to a team no longer with us.

I was absolutely astonished to read that newco (and former oldco) director, Paul Murray, explained Dave King’s absence from newco’s recent share as he is waiting until the SFA “have completed their review of Dave’s status before he can fully participate in the future of the Club”.

The SFA have no issue whatsoever in Dave King investing heavily in newco, or in owning all shares.  Indeed, King is already the largest shareholder, which has attracted no attention from the football authorities.

The prospect of King sloping off if the SFA judge him not Fit and Proper (which I think they will), is a fabulous twist in the work of this legendary non-executive director of a dead club.  He sat on the oldco board which paid EBTs for so many years, he stayed while they made no provision for the HMRC tax case, plunging into the transfer market instead.  Now he awaits the whim of the SFA before deciding to invest, having led newco away from their primary source of funding.

What a star.

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  1. 67Heaven .. CHALLENGING THE LIE ..I am wee Oscar / Neil Lennon.. Ipox belongs to the creditors on

    caibhin

     

     

    14:54 on 24 March, 2015

     

     

    Spot on…!! …….we are, however, talking about the Scottish Football establishment …..bless every one of them….go get them, Celtic…they have once again ‘crossed the line’ with their anti-Celtic agenda………!!!!!

  2. Neustadt-Braw on

    Pogmathonyahun aka Laird of the Smiles

     

    14:48 on

     

    24 March, 2015

     

    Germanwings Airbus A320 crashed in Southern French Alps – no survivors, may they rest in peace.

     

    ……………

     

    a very sad day……perspective is the goal we should all seek…

     

     

    Ruhe in Frieden

  3. 67Heaven .. CHALLENGING THE LIE ..I am wee Oscar / Neil Lennon.. Ipox belongs to the creditors on

    livibhoy

     

     

    15:08 on 24 March, 2015

     

     

    One law for them, and one for us…

  4. Alasdair MacLean on

    Fans of all other clubs in the country refer to them as huns.

     

     

    I won’t stop calling them huns but I might reduce the use of Hun-bxxxxxds….

  5. Kind of the SFA to resurrect the ‘are the Huns dead’ discussion again…

     

     

    An argument that revolves around the meaning of Liquidation. Before the Huns were liquidated there was s very clear consensus on what liquidation meant….

  6. Gentlemen the correct collective name is of course……..

     

     

    A riot of Huns……….

  7. !!Bada Bing!!

     

    14:42 on

     

    24 March, 2015

     

    Next words to go on the banned list-

     

    Monkey

     

    Zombie

     

    Mullet

     

    Taxdodger

     

    Cheats

     

    Rottenmob

     

    Vermin

     

     

    Words not on the banned list,

     

     

    Taig,

     

    Pape,

     

    Tarrier,

     

    Tim,

     

    Paedo,,

     

    Bheast.

  8. oneofthe70percent on

    Seems the so called laws of football are applied differently to us,putting Guidetti on a charge for telling the truth(the huns are deid),at the same time as letting off Cifti for elbowing and kicking Brown in the face so he could face celtic,reminds me of that scumbag novo karate chopping a Hibs player getting red carded but winning his appeal as we were playing the filth on the saturday,and guess what the the fecker scored the winner in the game,it,s been going on for 127 years and shows no signs of stopping,why Celtic has not asked UEFA/FIFA for an investigation into scottish football beggars belief

  9. oneofthe70percent

     

     

    With people like Bankier on our board …………………………………….dream on !!!!

  10. GlassTwoThirdsFull on

    They keep telling everybody they didn’t die – so how can the word possibly refer to them???

     

    Or are they saying they DID die…..?

  11. Afternoon, whit’s this Hun game…

     

     

    A collection of Huns…

     

     

    Mare Huns..

     

     

    Ayrshire is Green and White

  12. I believe that further details of why John Guidetti is being charged need to be disclosed before it is able to be assessed/ discussed in depth. What was offensive and why is not clear.

     

     

    My latest take on the charge against Guidetti is that I think the citation hasn’t been fully thought through by the SFA, and once they realise this is a possible can of worms, the issue may end up in the Hampden long grass, never to be referred to again.

     

     

    From experience during my own career I would say that, for almost any set of regulations which contain a discretionary element, then that element is placed there in order for the administrators of the regulations to avoid responsibility, if needs be. I think ‘discretion’ might be applied here.

     

     

    Also, personally, the discretionary element was never used on my behalf – I’ve just witnessed it!

  13. oneofthe70percent on

    one of the 70% of those eligible to vote in sept who did not vote for the daft idea of independence

  14. ‘a cheat of huns’ :-)

     

     

    Roy Croppie and your lass happy Birthday,all the best and keep the sounds up

     

     

    Kevinbhoy and Dr.Lucy.

     

     

    Well done on your educational achievement.Its what makes us different,the need to learn and adapt and improve and learn some more.All the best :-)

     

     

    Hail Hail

  15. GlassTwoThirdsFull on

    Paul,

     

    Not entirely sure I agree that the SFA will declare him not fit and proper, but if they do, is it because he has realised what he has landed himself in and wants a quick way out, or is it an attempt at an insolvency event with the blame being put at the SFA’s door?

  16. My Fav ‘not the view’ article was a series of pictures of the deid club players and rabbits. Started with a picture of a not so handsome Rangers FC player followed by a picture of a lovely wee bunny rabbit , then another orc, then another rabbit then 3 orcs in succession and so on.

     

    You guessed it (sing along) Hun, Rabbit, Hun, Rabbit, Hun Hun Hun

     

     

    Oh how I laughed.

  17. Ray Winstone's Big Disembodied Heid on

    A delusion of huns .

     

     

    An extinction of huns.

     

     

    A zombification of huns.

     

     

    A mendacity of huns.

  18. If it walks like a duck .quacks like a duck then its probably a duck.

     

    Deid huns are exactly as the label says.

     

    The purveyors of racism.,religious hatred and glorifying paedophilia are suddenly sensitive souls.

     

    Hypocritical huns.

  19. LiviBhoy

     

    15:49 on

     

    24 March, 2015

     

    Sevco been charged for their terrorist banner yet?

     

     

    ______________________________

     

     

    I’m affraid you live in a country where the vast majority have no prob’s with that type of banner.

     

     

    IMHO that is.

  20. oneofthe70percent

     

     

    55% of the 85% who voted = 46.75%

     

    Add the 15 % who didn’t vote

     

     

    = 61.75%

     

     

    Think you may have to change your name!! ;-)

  21. Ray Winstone's Big Disembodied Heid on

    UVF song lyrics banner at Aye Broke being held by one of the hun heroes that sent the package to Neil Lennon.

     

     

    Nothing done about it despite it even being headlined in the Rectum.

  22. !!Bada Bing!! on

    glasstwothirdsfull-King is playing brinkmanship with Regan, seeing if he has the cojones to apply the rules, or back down to the threats from the hun hordes.They have already won their case IMO, by not contesting Paul Murray as temp Chairman, he is in the same boat as King re Deidco.HH

  23. Neustadt-Braw on

    when I find myself in times of trouble

     

    mother Sturgeon comes to me

     

    speaking words of wisdom

     

     

    SNP

     

    SNP

     

     

    braw

     

     

    looks like the Hun is back …15 plus 45 is 60 per cent said AYE

     

     

    braw

  24. Gary67,

     

     

    Was thinking a name change was required myself! I couldn’t understand how to get to 70%.

     

     

    Unless you add 55% and 15% to make 70%; in which case, a yes voter could call themselves “one of the 59%” who didn’t vote no?

     

     

    In either case, I think the figures (70% and 59%) are incorrect as they are referring to percentages of different totals.

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