Let’s be clear, you cannot punish a player on the basis that he has made a comment which is only offensive, offence is subjective, highly so in Scottish football, where thousands await the opportunity.
Nor can you punish a player for a derogatory remark which may offend, especially if the remark does not call into question the probity of the subject. “Hearts are rotten, we beat them easily twice this season”, is a derogatory remark and will offend some Hearts fans, but it also falls into the category of being a fair opinion.
And without pointing out the obvious, you cannot offend the dead. John Guidetti and the club are right to contest this ridiculous charge, which by context, clearly refers to a team no longer with us.
I was absolutely astonished to read that newco (and former oldco) director, Paul Murray, explained Dave King’s absence from newco’s recent share as he is waiting until the SFA “have completed their review of Dave’s status before he can fully participate in the future of the Club”.
The SFA have no issue whatsoever in Dave King investing heavily in newco, or in owning all shares. Indeed, King is already the largest shareholder, which has attracted no attention from the football authorities.
The prospect of King sloping off if the SFA judge him not Fit and Proper (which I think they will), is a fabulous twist in the work of this legendary non-executive director of a dead club. He sat on the oldco board which paid EBTs for so many years, he stayed while they made no provision for the HMRC tax case, plunging into the transfer market instead. Now he awaits the whim of the SFA before deciding to invest, having led newco away from their primary source of funding.
What a star.
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TET-‘Sectarianism and racism have no place in Scottish football’
So the Stan Collymore,’black fenian b@$/@#$’ song was a figment of our imagination then, these ‘peepil’ live in the establishment bubble.Total idiots.
My hearts goes out to all those that lost their lives in the French Alps today.
I hope their suffering was minimal.
The mind boggles at what they went through.
The loss to their families will be unknown inexplainable.
TT
THE EXILED TIM
16:20 on 24 March, 2015
Oh Dear, they are at it again with their statements
RST Statement on Sectarian Language
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Wow what dignity
Those guys have such a moral compass
stuck up there rektum
Three men have £10 each. They want a telly priced £30………..
It’s sorcery I tells thee :))
The violence of Poverty inflicted by a tory/libdem coalition as a result of the Labour and hun like memory partys inability to count.
brewsters millions ‘none of the above’
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/mar/24/benefit-sanctions-trivial-breaches-and-administrative-errors?CMP=share_btn_tw#comment-49389964
HH
What the Fack it has to do with Celtic and John Guidetti what is written on a wall in Belfast beggars belief, honestley this is redicules, some one needs to stop this.
BB-Sheik
The sad thing is, the media and the sfa will back them to the hilt.
HH
Bawsman,
as you say the referendum has gone,but to think all Yes voters were SNP supporters is simply wrong,Ed Milliband was in my constituency yesterday trying to boost the Labour vote,they may lose a seat that they held with a thumping majority in the last election,every one of my family have voted labour until this election,not one intend voting for them this time,although I don’t know who they will vote for,if at all,its not Salmond that Labour should worry about ,its their own party
TD67
That mi amigo has to come from our suits.
HH
RST are dedicated to removing all forms of sectarianism from Scotland, when they’re not tweeting pictures of the prophet Mohammed performing sexual acts.
Jungle VIP
If someone shouts “hello, hello” in the jungle and nobody hears it…did they really say it?
I rather like the irrelevance of huns and a riot of huns but what about an abhorrence of huns?
THE EXILED TIM
I read that half an hour ago and i’m still trying to work out if it’s real !!!!!!!
murdochbhoy 14:42 on 24 March, 2015
Sorry – should read a Skulk of huns
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Should’t that be a sulk of huns, unless they really don’t care that nobody likes them.
THE EXILED TIM
16:29 on 24 March, 2015
BB-Sheik
The sad thing is, the media and the sfa will back them to the hilt.
HH
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agreed
rangers supporters trust are a collection of frauds
a complete propaganda organisation
rangers club and fans cannot be criticised but rangers fans are free to say and do what they want no matter how vile
I think I’m right in saying only one person has been convicted as a result of the use of the word hun and that was Michael Devlin who wore a T shirt with the word on it.
Devlin pled guilty.
No individual who’s pled not guilty has been convicted.
Ure Primrose
Sir John’s surname was responsible for a popular football quiz question of the seventies. “What is Bob Wilson’s middle name?”
*was coming back from playing a game against Rolls Royce Blantyre and we were listening to the scores on the van radio, we had already clinched 7 IAR which overtook the previous record of 6 IAR which we held.
The sportscaster reading out the results was the Chesterfield born former Scotland goalie.
He read out the “score that the whole of Scotland has been waiting for, hearts 4 Celtic 1” quite enthusiastically.
The sportscaster was the grandson of the man who played the goatshaggin and orange card.
Interesting to note that The Shadow of Yale Policy Centre is based in New Haven which is also the headquarters of the Knights of Columbus.
Bada Bing!!
15:58 on
24 March, 2015
glasstwothirdsfull-King is playing brinkmanship with Regan, seeing if he has the cojones to apply the rules, or back down to the threats from the hun hordes.They have already won their case IMO, by not contesting Paul Murray as temp Chairman, he is in the same boat as King re Deidco.HH
As far as I am aware,Murray was not on the board when the Huns died.He had been bumped by White before the blessed day.No problems for him being the “Big cheese””Head Honcho””Numero Uno”,”Big Chief”.
An Tearmann,
a frightening article.
Glasgow Herald senior news reporter loses the plot
Rangers fans group say police should take action over Guidetti h** song
Martin Williams
Senior News Reporter
Tuesday 24 March 2015
A RANGERS fans group has said the police should have been involved over Celtic striker John Guidetti’s singing of an “offensive” song about the Ibrox club.
John Guidetti
John Guidetti
Rangers Supporters Trust spoke out after the 22-year-old was issued with a Scottish Football Association notice of complaint following an interview on Dutch TV show FC Rijnmond earlier this month.
During the broadcast he repeated a chant sung about him by supporters featuring the line “the h*** are deid”.
Just read that statement. You wonder how their minds(?)work. By the bye, what charities apart I presume from Show Racism the Red card have claimed that hun is sectarian?
I take these same people are first in line to to condemn the Famine Song and the Billy Boys.
rwe,
Haha! Very good!
Anyone heard if it’s official delahun has been bagged at Snyde?
ParkheadcumSalford,
I think it was only Nil By Mouth who claimed it was sectarian.
the exiled tim
I don’t see Celtic getting involved with this, it’s a powder keg, and a stitch up, they need to tread very carefully here, I would leave it to the fans to be honest, the HUN board are not involved, so it’s fan against fan, and if it comes to cleverness and brains, I know who my money would be on, now the Celtic trust or supporters associatin should step in and take them on, as I said the HUN board are not involved, it’s the supporters of the HUNS that are making it personal, are the leaders of our supporters up for it? Or are we just gonny keep hiding behind PL and pointing fingers saying, they said this about us, NAW, am sorry, time we stole up and got tore in on our own, in a dignified way by the way.
a pollution of huns.
McIntyre at Radio Shortbread , will be hastily re-writing his hun agenda script, to accommodate his friends at the RST.Cue a statement from Murray praising Shortbread’s searingly honest opinions on all things Deidco.
Parkheadcumsalford
16:38 on
24 March, 2015
Nil by Mouth – read this absolute tripe (3rd last paragraph)
Burgas
You really have to wonder if they are real
HH
What do you expect from the RST. Don’t let it bother you.
Bawsman
I agree the referendum is over until the scottish people decide otherwise.
however The Labour Partys betrayal of the poor still stands,
under that betrayal the rich got richer and the poor poorer
The fake socialists initiated and overseen the growth of the offshore finance industry
makes me sick this shower of fake socialist who are still aligned Gideons budget
The Labour Party,the party who need power but are impotent once they achieve power,
Lets tax by stealth instead of wealth,true sell out betraying scum
if you want a party of the Left do not go to one which aligns itself with Tories when voting in disability/welfare cuts to our poorest.
The poor disown The Labour Party,
They do nothing in the face of feral capatilism.
Not to mention the murder of one million human being,just like you and me blown to smithereens.I pray those souls are at peace,no rest for the betraying Labour party til that is explained.
not to worry,the ‘city’ is fine with our policies.
vote Labour and you are voting for a hun like memory who takes no blame for their amateurishness in govt.
outahere
have a good night
HH
TD67
I agree, but, and always the but, the media will not give our trust any coverage, they will do what they always do, and back the hun.
One of our players is involved here, not a fan, the club have to back him to the hilt on this.
HH
An effluence of huns?
Not sure but I’d imagine the only people who can act with authority in this case would be the player himself, his club and his union.
turkeybhoy-G67 is of the same opinion as yourself re Paul Murray, I withdraw the post if I am wrong.I thought he was still liable when the huns died.HH
AT,
‘Violence of poverty’? Really? The poverty industry assure us that the problem is extraordinary. Like racism, poverty is a much abused term.
HT-I can’t see Fraser Wishart working overtime on this one, I heard him last week defending Simonsen re gambling, after admitting he shouldn’t have done it.