News (confirmed by his club) that our next Champions League opponents Juventus have opened negotiations with Athletic Blibao striker Fernando Llorente, ahead of a possible free-transfer move in the summer, appears to put recent fantasy stories about Gary Hooper supposedly moving to Turin in the correct context. Liverpool, who several newspapers also ‘reported’ were interested in Hooper, signed a different striker this week.
The relentless pillage of Celtic player’s names used to sell newspapers is wearisome, probably more so to those at the club hoping to convince Hooper, and Victor Wanyama, to sign new contracts. Chances of re-signing Hooper if he thinks Juventus and Liverpool are about to bid for him: 0%. Chances if it’s relegation battlers from England: considerably higher. I see a new front has been opened today on Beram. We have to ensure another 28 days of this nonsense.
Llorente is a current Spanish international and played a huge part in Atheltic’s march to the Europa League final last season, but I would not be too concerned if Juventus tried to secure him this month. Moving to Turin is notoriously challenging for strikers and Llorente has never been based outside of the Basque country.
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NatKnow
Some funding would need to be made available, but the answer is clearly to scrap the licence fee and run adverts. Everybody else does.
Celtic_First –
Don’t disagree mate – but in that case they would not be a national broadcaster and would be run along purely commercial lines. See Channel 5 for example. Income for broadcasters like these is falling as a result of advertising budgets going to new media these days. So not sure if that route would provide enough to achieve the high production values we would like to see. Might result in another series of Sexetera though. But with Scottish burds…hmmm….
league reconstruction is very much needed and the sooner the better.
the t.v deal we have is awful when consideration is given the viewing figures, we are sitting on a real goldmine and i would expect a well run spl t.v to generate 100m with subscriptions (household and public), advertising, selling of radio rights, highlight packages etc…
spl could: show live games
re-run live games
show highlights of all other games
dedicate time for every spl club on t.v/ show extended highlights
show under 21/ 19 team league
biggest problem, IMHO, is that clubs (SPL) would rather take a little money without having to pay anything, rather than pay anything to set their own t.v channel cause.
NatKnow
Most national broadcasters sell advertising to supplement the state funding they get. The BBC is very much an exception.
Someone put a stat on here a while ago – I don’t know how much truth was in it but the jist was that alan hansen gets more money from the BBC than Scottish football
Celtic_First –
Yes – Channel 4 is an example of a broadcaster who follows this model. And in fact they had a committment to quality film, news etc. as you suggested. But even with a wider audience than Scotland, that model was extremely difficult for them to maintain – hence Film 4 had to be was sold. I don’t disagree with your fundamental idea of what we should expect a quality broadcaster to produce. The problem has always been how it gets paid for. The more money that comes from government (of which ever hue) the more influence they tend to expect. Hence the apparent permanent Mexican stand-off between the BBC and poiticians. If the broadcaster relies on advertising then they are driven by viewing figures to sell the slots which inevitibly leads to populist broadcasting rather than “quality”. Note the inverted commas – that’s a whole ‘nother debate!
I would broadcast the football without any commentators or panels full of muppets.
Show stuff in captions: team line-up, how many goals a guy has scored so far this season, how old he is, previous club, game stats blah, blah, blah. Apart from telling you what you can see with your own eyes … “And the ball has gone out of play …” … that’s basically all the commentators offer anyway for their big fat salaries. What a waste of resources.
Half time would be wall-to-wall adverts with a tiny highlights package showing the best bits of the first half and any moments of controversy. Run the slow-mos, caption them up. Who needs Craig Burley to say he thinks there was contact? He’s sitting on his bahookey watching it on a screen just like you. Who cares what he thinks?
The last time I heard a pundit provide insight was when Don Revie was summarising, genuinely summarising, for David Coleman at the 1970 World Cup in Mexico. Every 15 minutes, Revie’s voice took over for about a minute while he summed up how the last bit of the game had gone, what shifts in momentum or changes in tactics he had observed. Now guys either inarticulately mumble (rather than state) the bleeding obvious or pretend to be comedians. Who needs them? Get them hunted.
NatKnow
But if you were the government minister in charge of it you could set parameters for what advertisers could and could not pay for and you could control which companies could advertise.
Just like everybody else, the broadcaster would have to live within its means, but the way to build up an audience is by offering quality content. Do that and the advertisers will follow. Offer drivel and no one will watch and no matter how hard you sell you won’t bring the advertisers in.
Murray has nothing to do with the grip on the bbc,its hunnery plain n simple,always has been and always will be which leads me to conclude that as a Celtic fan Im glad the English bbc give Scotland the scraps of a budget,we dont them to promote or sustain Celtic and as somebody has already alluded to,more bbc budget in Scotland means more money for hunnery.
C_F
Advertising is not the way to go for a Scottish broadcasting Corp. Keep the Licence Fee, it’s essentially a TV subscription that provides underwriting for quality content.
Although never officially declared, it is estimated that BBC raises around £300M from Licence Fees in Scotland.
In comparison, STV’s total revenue 2011 was £102M, of which perhaps £90M was derived from advertising.
Sky generates £6.5Bn per year revenue, of which 90% is subscription, the balance advertising. Pro rata, that’s about £52M per year advertising from the Scottish market.
Don’t have figures to hand for Channel 4 or 5, but can’t imagine they’re very much different.
Advertising in the age of Google, whether TV, print or outdoor, ain’t what it used to be.
Keep the Licence Fee and define a set of purposes and values fit for the 21st Century.
The Battered Bunnet
We are not getting much bang for our buck in Scotland then from the BBC?
LB
there are over 5000 pubs in scotland, i would guess at least 1/3 would want spl t.v, throw in a few thousand more from england and ireland and we have a good commercial basis out withprivate subscriptions.
Celtic_First 100% agreed
new article posted.
TBB
On reflection, I agree that keeping some licence-fee structure in place could help fund better broadcasting, especially as Scottish people are used to paying it anyway.
Lennon n mc mjallby,
Re BBC Scotland you are 100% correct ; thirty years ago there were no Catholics employed. Changed a bit now though.
I am sure Brian McBride ex Celtic director and now a non-exec on BBC Board can advise his colleagues in London about the impartiality of McLean, Lamont, Begg etc
south of tunis11:38 on4 January, 2013
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HH!
I knew I’d be off the mark in basically carpet-bombing IDS, but in the interests of inaccuracy, which is his forté after all, I thought I’d just throw as much mud as possible, in the vein of,
” When did you stop beating your wife? ”
The man is odious creep made flesh and I despise him with a passion.
I’m now off to try and find the very short clip of him being pure evil on Question Time to illustrate my loathing of this most execrable of cretins.
Bhoys
I have just bought the Samsung Chromebook. Beginning to have doubts as I have read mixed reviews. Should I have just bought a cheaper end laptop instead? Anyone else got one and have any insights?
To be honest I mostly use home PC for browsing CQN and shopping on line as well as the odd home letter/document. I was attracted to the price of this though at £229 and it is superb fast in comparison to my very old PC using the home wifi.
FLAEAGLE1888
I’m gonna be a bit busy later,moving my mate to Brum.
I hope this is the correct venue for today’s NOPE…..
SONA SASTA 320 CHEPSTOW
It has roughly a 12-hour start on the others,shooooooooorly that will be enough to break my duck!
Morning lads,will go for ACROSS THE BAY if it runs in the 3.20 chepstow.
Will check later.hh
Morning All
Alfie Spinner 320 Chepstow
T4
get the finger oot its getting embarrassing
Tullamore Dew 2:40 Wincanton.
good luck
morning all today’s selection sponsored by UHU Is…….
CHEPSTOW 12:25 SIN BIN
Good luck all
Chepstow 320 Across the bay
Giles Cross in the Welsh National please – Chepstow 3.20
Sandown 2.25 Melodic Rendezvous
good luck
John’s Spirit
1540 Sandown Park.
All the best!!
Che – beyond embarrassing! BTW your horse is running at Sandown instead !
I’ll nap Tartak in the 15:40 at Sandown. Also backed Incentivise ew in the Welsh National…50’s!
Good Luck
T4
Lads, naps here please…
fleagle1888
Hey fleagle,get with the beat baggi,we’ve been up for hours. hh
Only picked 3 today – 2 already tipped up here. Michel Le Bon 3.20 Chepstow.
Good luck everyone.
Happy new year everyone.
I’ll go Universal Soldier 3.20 please.
CQN Saturday Naps Competition – Week 22 Results & Standings
Amazing results last week with 7 winners from the napsters – led by Voguepunter who found the best priced winner (Hand the Prize Over @14/1).
Other winners : Cathal (Rolecarr @4/1), Som mes que un club (Pairumani Prince @4/1), Magnificentseven (Pete the Feat @15/8), leftclicktic (Sacre Toi @13/8), Sixteen roads to Golgotha (Taquin Du Seuil @13/8), green T (Zuska @11/10).
+£19.35 green T (9)
+£11.00 Rockon Neil Lennon (8)
+£ 3.13 Sixteen roads to Golgotha (4)
+£ 1.00 voguepunter (2)
+£ 0.50 What is the Stars (4)
-£ 0.30 BULL67 (4)
-£ 1.00 Valentine’s Day (3)
-£ 2.50 fleagle1888 (3)
-£ 2.63 Magnificentseven (3)
-£ 4.50 Che (2)
-£ 6.50 Bada Bing (2)
-£ 8.00 Cathal (2)
-£11.50 Som mes que un club (2)
-£12.80 TheBarcaMole (2)
-£13.97 hunza rugli (2)
-£14.50 MHARK67 (2)
-£15.38 leftclicktic (2)
-£17.00 gerry_bhoy (1)
-£17.50 tommytwisttommyturns (1)
-£19.00 Glen (1)
-£22.00 bobbymurdoch’s winklepickers
-£22.00 gourockbhoy
-£22.00 Raymac
*No selections – gerry_bhoy, gourockbhoy, hunza rugli, Raymac, TheBarcaMole, What is the Stars
Non-Runners –
Cheers, fleagle1888
Going for Quigleys Express in the 2.45 at Chepstow
Lads,
my first nap of 2013 is Poet (Sandown 2.25)
Happy punting !
fleagle1888
good luck guys
johns spirit 3.40 sandown
Domtaline in the 1.50 at sandown please. Be lucky bhoys
Ifyouletmefinish 3.00 Sandown
Witchesintune 3:50 wincanton