Resist or wither like Miss Havisham

1974

Defining Cruyff is not easy but there are some objective facts to assist: three times European Champion, three times Ballon d’Or winner, voted Europe’s Player of the Century in 1999, and third place in the World’s Player of the Century at the same time.

On the field, the most damming criticism of him is that he wasn’t Pele or Maradona, both of whom won World Cups, but neither changed the direction of travel in the game as Cruyff did. Pele’s Brazil seemed out of sight as they strutted their stuff at the 1970 World Cup. By 1974 the Dutch, with Cruyff pulling all the strings, had tactically moved the game on a generation. It would be decades before Brazil won the tournament again.

The Dutch know all this and, rightly, place Johan at the pinnacle of the game, but there was more going on in the Netherlands at the time. Feyenoord beat Cruyff and Ajax to the European Cup by 12 months as a generation of players matured together.

While the Netherlands took hosts Argentina to extra time in the 1978 World Cup final, Cruyff was watching on TV. Of course they would have won had he played, but that they came so close without him is a testament to the rest of his Dutch generation, forever in his shadow, but great nonetheless.

So would the Dutch revolution have happened without him? Something would have happened, Luxemburg would not have beaten the Netherlands in the 1970s, as they did in the 60s, but it would have been a revolution you might not have noticed. Ajax’ European Cup adventures may have ended with the 1-3 home defeat to Benfica in the 1969 quarter final. Feyenoord may not have edged extra time in the final the following season.

Allied to his skill, speed and strength, Cruyff opened the eyes of all who played with and against him. After Cruyff, opponents knew the old rules didn’t apply anymore.

Yesterday’s story in the Guardian, citing “sources at a major Premier League club” would signal the end of the last pretence of meritocracy in football, where the most wealthy will only play each other in European competition.

Resist of wither like Miss Havisham.

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  1. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    I could just imagine the outcry, if i proposed that schools should examine the extent of Irish nationalism and support for the IRB in Glasgow between 1912-1916.

     

    Im sure it would go down well:)

     

    Or maybe not:)

     

     

    HH

  2. PBS showed the Liam Neeson narrated 1916 Rising on Friday night.

     

    For anyone who hasn’t seen it yet, try and find it.

     

    Very informative.

  3. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    An Tearmann

     

     

    The Irish in Glasgow in the 19th and 20th centuries.

     

    The rise of the Professional clasess in Glasgow…1840s onwards

     

    The institutionalism and commercialisation of Prostitution

     

    And the mechanics of municipalisation.

     

    And much more besides.

     

     

    HH

  4. TCR

     

    Thanks for the response.

     

    I know the Pedens.

     

    Probably a generation maybe two older.

  5. GG

     

     

    It had an airing here tonight, that and an hour long chat on parliament channel bout the role of woman.

     

    Little bit in the news on sunday

     

     

    HH

  6. 16 roads - Celtic über alles... on

    Magill – Lol :)

     

     

    Sweeping generalisations and stereotypes in full effect there!

     

     

    When crunch comes to crunch – Celtic is our team, without a shadow of a doubt.

     

     

    Was speaking with the boul Mozza at the Ajax game, in great form as usual he was, despite the result.

     

     

    Forgot to ask how you were keeping.

     

     

    Sorry.

     

     

    Difficult at times to tell if ye are on the wind up,or not.

     

     

    Funny enough sometimes none the less.

     

     

    Ya mental bitch ye.

     

     

    HH.

  7. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    An Tearmann

     

     

    Ive spoke about this before.

     

    For example…im gathering my thoughts on the administrative and military structure of Roman Britain, and strangely enough, how it relates to Maryhill Barracks.

     

    A strange one for sure.

     

    My detractors did not call me the ‘Charles Manson’ of Scottish historical analysis for nothing:)

     

     

     

    HH

  8. John kellys Irish,- is a great book, tracking the movement of people post famine,

     

    Brendan sweeneys Celtic the early years-gives an idea of the social threads comin together to improve life span – churches st vin de paul.etc.

     

    Patrick magill writes bout the trauma of the diaspora over here, treatment etc

     

    I used to find the glasgow room at mitchell good

     

    My da was born pre’16 and hired out as a shepherd boy, I remember been shood away when askin how many sweets he bought wi 10bob for 3months, poverty.I still dont have a clue at times ;-)

     

     

    HH

  9. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    An Tearmann

     

     

    Read all the common historiography…Kelly, Bradley etc….you name it.

     

    Im trying to veer in another direction.

     

    St Vincent De Paul…my great grandfather worked with them for many years.

     

    Im trying to write something you would not find on the shelves of Waterstones:)

     

    In the end….they will probably lead me off in a straightjacket….like poor James Tilly Matthews….but thats another story:)

     

     

    HH

  10. Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan supports Oscar Knox, MacKenzie Furniss and anyone else who fights Neuroblastoma on

    Jeezo

     

     

    What a read the last 15 pages have been and possibly it presents the most concentrated pile of innacuracy and shite I have ever seen on here or any other Celtic blog to be honest.

     

     

    I can honsetly say that when it comes to Res 12 tonight in particular I would just about disagree with every single post at some point and that includes ones from Auldheid, HT, Hen!irik (in particular), WC and certainly the one which suggests that the Res 12 people are in the pocket of Peter Lawwell which is a disgrace.

     

     

    I am particularly disappointed in this twitter post:

     

     

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    Sevco Trading As RFC ‏@hen1rik 2h2 hours ago

     

     

    Checks posts from 17:50 onwards and grabs popcorn.

     

     

    http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/resist-of-wither-like-miss-havisham/comment-page-46/#comments

     

     

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    As it strikes me that the intention was to stir some shit for the sake of it.

     

     

    Anyway, can I point out something that should be as obvious as the day is interminably long!!

     

     

    At the 2013 AGM was not “withdrawn” — it has never been withdrawn and it is something that has to be read into the minutes every AGM since. It will automatically be on the agenda at the 2016 AGM and can at the request of the requistioners be debated in full on the floor, with all the shareholders present and as fully informed as they can be.

     

     

    Had it been the subject of discussion in 2013 not all the evidence we have now would have been known and the whole debate would have been conducted in the ignorance of key facts that now must be answered.

     

     

    In 2013 the resolution was set for the bin at the instance of the board but they were persuaded to change their stance because there was evidence that they did not have and were not privvy too. When that was put to them, they HAD to change their stance because not to made no sense at all, and to be frank had they held their position, I for one would have screamed blue murder ( yes I chose that phrase deliberately).

     

     

    The Resolutioners represnetatives — and on the day they were me and Morrissey and I had only been asked to get involved 48 hours before by 4 different people — met with PL and the Co sec and the position adopted was that instead of the resolution being voted down ( it could always have been brought back the following year) it would, by consent, be adjourned, kept alive and in that way, the board of Celtic PLC were to be accountable, accessable, and answerable to the shareholders with regard to the steps that were to follow. Personally, I saw that as a great step in making sure the board were taking this seriously, and were being made to take it seriously.

     

     

    That is the sheer simple workings of a company resolution, plain and simple. If they did nothing post adjournment, we could report it, if they played a blinder we could report it, if, as happened and I have repeated on numerous oocasions, they co-operated and were helpful we could report it. It also got us and the issues repeated airings before board representatives where we could present argument and evidence which we have done ever since — and are still doing.

     

     

    Much of the detail couldn’t be reported because of various legal reasons that were nothing to do with Celtic and everything to do with making sure that nothing was done which would allow others — scheming, self preserving, not to be trusted at any corner others — from using a loose blog entry or newspaper story to usurp the process or defeat the objective.

     

     

    The words read out by Iain Bankier on this at every single AGM subsequently have either been written by me or edited by me — mostly the former.

     

     

    As has been seen in the last few weeks, when the board of the PLC take a turn which we/I don’t agree with — hey it is posted on here and you folk are left to make your mind up on the whole issue.

     

     

    I will always express my point of view — and it will be plain and simple for all to see and read with no hidden agendas or whatever.

     

     

    So, in that vein let me vent my splein and point out some shit that I think needs pointing out which will no doubt win me no friends but that is ok.

     

     

    The suggestion that the Res 12 guys are accepting some sort of gratuity, favour or whatever in return for “withdrawing” the resolution at the 2013 AGM or thereafter is just plain downright offensive and wrong. In truth, I certainly have better things to be doing with my time than this bollocks and there are loads of places I would rather have a cup of tea or a pint than Celtic park on a Wednesday morning etc — by the way with no disrespect to the Celtic board they would all be well down the line in the ideal list of drinking companions.

     

     

    Next — if the board of Celtic Football club were smarter — smarter than what I hear you ask — then we would not be having this debate because they would have handled the whole thing better. I have said before, a PLC is not the way to run a football club for the fans as per Fergus’ dream. It is a flawed model and was doomed from the start. Peter Lawwell works for the major shareholders and investors — he does not work for you or me other than in the nominal sense.

     

     

    However, get a resolution on the floor, make it one the board cannot say no to without facing legal and righteous ridicule, and then the same board are and have to be accountable. The Celtic support are only now waking up to how a PLC can be made accountable and how to organise themselves in terms of their shares.

     

     

    By the way — The investors in Celtic PLC deserve a far smarter board than the one they have in my opinion. WE could at least get a baboon and a monkey on the baord who would contribute something to an AGM instead of a range of middle aged to elderly men in dull suits who appear to have nothing to contribute!

     

     

    Further, the SFA and SPFL have still to wake up to the fact that it might just be the case that shareholders in a club which is a member club in terms of their articles of association etc might just be able to call them to account. More on this in the future.

     

     

    In the last few days we have surveys from the SPL for all fans to answer and a joint movement by the SFA and the Football first team ( who champion fan ownership ) regarding another survey re accountability.

     

     

    Well blow me down and call me a cynic, as someone who has been told that certain letters will not be answered and who has proffered a bit of a legal threat on that front … the coincidental timing of all these surveys leaves me astounded of forehead.

     

     

    Next — HT — on the day of the AGM there was a spat between Morrissey and Maire. As you know, I have known Maire since I was a wee boy and she is a saint — I will not go into the personal reasons I say that because it has nothing to so with here or Celtic and I love her dearly. However that day she was angry because she thought Hugh lied to her because he said that the resolution was not being withdrawn – and when it was adjourned she took the view he had lied to her. I don’t believe he had. The difference between withdrawn and adjourned might be technical but it is huge — and legally enormous with real ramifications.

     

     

    Anyway, I have to say I tried to calm the waters but to no avail. Later there were many sceptics, and personally there were some well known and well respected Celtic fans who told me to my face that day that I was no friend of the Celtic Trust.

     

     

    In truth, I had no idea what I had ever done to become a friend or foe, but let’s just say that I have never joined the Celtic trust. That day, to me, for some the trust appeared to have an attitude of “your in the gang or your out” and was somewhat cliqueish.

     

     

    As one of the world’s great non joiners — and someone who could not have given a flying feck about joining an organisation with such an attitude — I am happy to be out if that is anything like the communal mantra. I am well aware that for many it is not and that the trust does great work in many respects, but there was a serious own goal scored that day by some of the trust in terms of a marketing campaign with this Celtic shareholder.

     

     

    I am more than happy to help where I can (time permitting) and will disagree with many folk in debate and argument or suggest an alternative approach on any certain issue, and it will never be the cause of endless anger or ire. I will argue a corner — have been paid to argue a corner — but when the bell rings that is the end of it. You find a common front and move on.

     

     

    Res 12 did and with respect to the Trust they took the view that it was not their gig.

     

     

    Hands up — in the interim I should have made more of an effort to make sure they were part of the gig because it is important that all fans were involved. But hey– I got too busy with other things yada yada yada. However, when the resolution returns to the floor I would hope that the trust have an official view that is more than just a passive one.

     

     

    Shout it down, criticise it, say it has been mishandled by all means but don’t preach the violence of silence. At least that is my view.

     

     

    In the interim, there have been disagreements and debates between the four of us as to tactics and there is a sliding scale as to how much trust each of us place in the board.

     

     

    I would say Auldheid has most faith — but that, in my own personal opinion, comes from the fact that he has the most time invested in this and he wants – genuinely wants — to help Celtic and Scottish football right itself from an illicit calumny that has been perpetrated by Hampden and elsewhere.

     

     

    I will not speak for the other two as they can speak for themselves.

     

     

    Me? — and here I will definitely lose some friends — I have little time for the actions of any Celtic board from about 1892 onwards.

     

     

    I think the ethos of Walfrid was sold down the river by many of the early Celtic board like John Glass and all his successors — and while he and the Maleys built a great football team they did so with seriously questionable morals with scarecely a jot of concern for Walfrid’s original aims..

     

     

    I will admire the Maleys, McGrory’s and all the other great Celtic men as players but when it comes to the fabled ethos of serving this great charity inspired support I think they were all a crowd of shysters with self serving interests who should be booted fairly and squarely in the communal arse.

     

     

    Rober Kelly was a nice man — gave me his Celtic pin as a wee boy (another Celtic fan stole it) — but he and his family and the other families – did feck all in terms of furthering the orifinal ethos of Celtic. It was a business to them.

     

     

    Colonel Shaughnessy the lawyer — aye well he is one of the greatest villains in Celtic history in my opinion — but that is a debate for another day.

     

     

    I didn’t like Celtic Football and Athletic Club Ltd as a business or company and I don’t like Celtic PLC either.

     

     

    No offence to those who work there — many good and honest people — but I just don’t fancy the business at all.

     

     

    I can take that dislike of the business up to the recently modern era with former Celtic players openly talking about managers and others getting backhanders and brown envelopes for transfers and so on. Football is a mucky and dirty business as a business — and historically Celtic are in no position to be casting the first stone.

     

     

    In truth, Celtic are a little like the Government of Ireland after Independence — after the forming of the Republic, the country was Governed in a truly dreadful fashion by some of the most right wing, hypocritical, two faced, back stabbing shitebags to walk the planet.

     

     

    Freedom for all men and women?? That’s a laugh. They wouldn’t give Margaret Skinnider a pension for fighting in the 1916 rising becuase she was not a “soldier of masculine determination!” – she had been feckin shot three times but because she was a women she got nowt while her male comrades received a pension.

     

     

    I have relatives who got the widow’s pension as a result of their men being involved long before Margaret and others got so much as a tanner despite her being there and risking her life.

     

     

    She had to fight her former comrades for 18 years before persuading them to part with the cash. I wonder what they would have done had she picked up her rifle and shot the two faced buggers– shot by a soldier not of the masculine or pensionable persuasion!

     

     

    And of course if you were an Irsih girl who could spit and polish by the time you were 14 there was no chance of an education being wasted on the likes you. Out and into service with until you were the age for marriage and making babies and no questions asked.

     

     

    Anyway, I digress — back to Res 12 and all that — there was a hint in a post that the Celtic Trust act with integrity — and I am sure that they do — but that the contrary is true of the Res 12 guys.

     

     

    If That was intended, even if it accidently hinted at, then that is an utter disgrace.

     

     

    I don’t say that out of any desire to run to the baricades and defend my own position because i genuinely could not give a kipper’s dick for anyone who holds that opinion as it is completely without merit.

     

     

    The way I see it, Res 12 has been manoevered and moved in such a fashion where it was designed to call Celtic PLC to account in calling the SFA to account by if necessary making UEFA account.

     

     

    And that is where it sits.

     

     

    I disagree with Winning Captains by the way when he spouts on about yours truly being some wiley oul legal fox (I remind everyone that I gave that game up over a decade ago – though I still have the tools of the trade so to speak) who is playing a winning hand. I can see a certain strategy or two – as can the others — and I can see where opponents of our aims might just run into a dead end — indeed they might be shepherded there like sheep – if all goes to plan.

     

     

    But that is far from certain and it might come to nought. However, if it comes to nought becuase Celtic PLC or the SFA do nothing about it etc then everyone will know about it, will know who to blame and can decide if they want to support the game or not. With Celtic the resolution can always be brought back to the floor and a big number of people can kick up a right stink if they think the board have developed a yellow streak or are up to their oxters in shit..

     

     

    Oh — and for everyone wanting to know what Paul67’s view on things are — well again I am going to suggest that you can read into Paul’s silence what you will. Everyone knows he is freindly with Peter Lawwell and that he does not often criticise or disagree with the board in public. In some respects he has skelves on his arse in that regard if you pardon the parlance — but all I know about skelves on the arse is that they make life uncomfortable for the person with the arse concerned, they make feck all difference to anyone else.

     

     

    I can be much more liberal and free with my views.

     

     

    Now, let’s go further while I am on my high horse.

     

     

    I don’t read the John James columns anymore at all — draw your own conclusions. The man tends to deal with his own club which is not my club and in the past I have disagreed with his analysis and predictions in relation to legal and other matters. No doubt if he has something interesting to say ( and he has at times in the past to be fair ) someone else will point it out.

     

     

    You will recall that Phil MacG posted some time ago that the Res 12 letter which was sent to Hampden was also sent to UEFA by someone with inside ties and connections at Celtic park and who was in the know. To suggest that it had not been sent to UEFA together with the evidence etc was naive – said Phil.

     

     

    I like Phil — but the Res 12 guys never told him that and certainly never sent any letter to UEFA. Celtic deny they have ever sent any letter to UEFA and they are now asking the Res 12 people to send one to UEFA.

     

     

    Someone somewhere has to be wrong.

     

     

    The point is that there is an awful lot written about this Res 12 stuff that is just rubbish and pure cobblers.

     

     

    If the board of Celtic PLC don’t want to pursue it they should just come out and say so and be done with it — but they haven’t.

     

     

    If the board or Celtic PLC genuinely think it is better for business that there is a Rangers in the top league then they should just come out and say so – and explain why they think that.

     

     

    If Celtic PLC thik that the SFA are a shower of jokers and not fit for purpose just say so and why — John Reid did so before.

     

     

    Anyway, there is lots of work to do tomorrow/today on Res 12 — I genuinely wish there wasn’t — but this week is a key week.

     

     

    I have told everyone and anyone who will listen to me on this that this entire escapde is a war of attrition and there will be no quick or easy outcome. There will be many a twist and turn on the jouney yet, and no doubt there will be more obfuscation and crap along the way.

     

     

    By the way I gave up moaning and being grumpy for lent — can you tell?

  11. Green man

     

    Keep reading mate and toilin away, some pearls in Irish,

     

    The history of scotland and its linkage to ireland I find interesting.

     

     

    16 roads

     

    Glad you had a good time in Dublin

     

     

    Night noo

     

    :-)

  12. Margaret McGill on

    BRTH

     

    Very informative post. Thank you.

     

    Any thoughts on PL voting for DK as fit and proper?

  13. 16 roads - Celtic über alles... on

    An Tearmann – Go raibh maith agat mo chara.

     

     

    Sorry ye couldn’t be there.

     

     

    An cupla folca is all I’ve got, trying though, trying.

     

     

    Oiche mhaith.

     

     

    HH.

  14. Margaret McGill on

    Margaret McGill on 29th March 2016 2:39 am

     

    Because if he did Res12 is a waste of time

  15. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    An Tearmann

     

     

    What is interesting to me….is the history of the academic establishments themselves.

     

    And what version of history they like to present to the world.

     

    If you happen to stroll down byres rd tomorrow….The history of the area is emblazoned on the front of a large supermarket….consumer history so to speak.

     

    Its required, because the er cultured historians in that area, are rather too busy with their investments on the stock exchange.

     

    Oops, better not say too much:)

     

     

    HH

  16. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    An Tearmann

     

     

    I can imagine this scenario.

     

     

    Local resident: Hello, is that the history dept.

     

    Academic Ltd: Yes, that’s correct sir….and whats it got to do with you?

     

    LR: I was just wondering if you would like to send a history professor once a month, as we seem to be in a position where the local posh shop is catering for the educational needs of the local people.

     

    Academic Ltd: Now sir, look here, this isnt a florist, we dont do requests.

     

    LR: But dont you have any responsibility to educate the community.

     

    Academic Ltd: Of course sir….how about 20,000 pounds a year, that seems fair, and i have approved the discount rate.

     

     

    HH

  17. Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan supports Oscar Knox, MacKenzie Furniss and anyone else who fights Neuroblastoma on

    Mags,

     

     

    I have no idea if he did or didn’t to be honest.

     

     

    Somewhere in the dark recesses of my mind I think I read he either abstained or voted against though I could be wrong.

     

     

    However, let me pose this point.

     

     

    Peter Law well is a financial janitor – that doesn’t make him a bad person or anything like that, it just means that his job is to make sure that everything at Celtic Park is “safe” and that books balance etc.

     

     

    He is not an innovator or an entrepreneur type.

     

     

    What he is, is the kind of guy wthat would know how to do proper due diligence on someone.

     

     

    So, I am presuming that he will have independently had the rule ran over KIng by some of the big accountancy firms and their allies in South Africa.

     

     

    He would know if King is worth two bob or two gazillion pounds.

     

     

    Baring that in mind, Lawwell once told me that the only certain thing with Ibrox is that you can’t be certain of anything. You have no idea who will turn up for meetings, you can’t be sure they will pay their bills, you don’t know if they have money or if they are going to be in existence in the same form from one month to the next.

     

     

    So, in that light, do you vote for Dave King coming in or not?

     

     

    I was told a wee story that certain committees met without Lawwell being present, and that this was one of the things Celtic were fighting internally — to ensure that there was always a Celtic voice there.

     

     

    But let’s presume he was present and was armed with all the goods on Dave King.

     

     

    Having spoken with DD — who has a flair for Machavaellian manoevering — would you vote yes or no?

     

     

    Wearing your footballing intergrity hat — you must start off voting no.

     

     

    And I would remind you that those who voted to accept him, did so only after certain written guararntees were made by both KInd and The Rangers.

     

     

    However, there is an argument that if you knew that King only had so much money, was never going to invest in Ibrox and would have to hawk the silverware, and beg steal and borrow just to stay afloat — then wearing a purely Celtic hat, you might just want this guy in charge of Ibrox as he is sure to be a car crash waiting to happen some time down the road and that he will almost single handedly leave Rangers with big financial problems in the future.

     

     

    However, as I say I think I read somewhere that Lawwell abstained or voted no but was in a minority. But I can’t be sure.

     

     

    Right bed time for me.

  18. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    FFs its like a John Le Carre Novel.

     

    Cold War drama.

     

    Black propaganda and psychological warfare.

     

    I only wanted to see the cheating challenged…now its like a mash-up of Oor Wullie, Watergate and Apocalypse Now.

     

    Get PC Murdoch in, its awe that Soapy Soutar’s fault.

     

    Seriously….The huns must be pi***** themselves laughing.

     

     

    HH

  19. BRTH @ 2:33am

     

    Post should be made into a separate article.

     

    In defence of or clear the air or state of play re Res12.

     

    Well worth the time investment by yourself in posting.

     

    I hope it helps to clear up the discussions and unfounded accusations we’ve been seeing in recent days.

  20. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    BROGAN ROGAN TREVINO AND HOGAN SUPPORTS OSCAR KNOX, MACKENZIE FURNISS AND ANYONE ELSE WHO FIGHTS NEUROBLASTOMA on 29TH MARCH 2016 3:11 AM

     

     

    The inside info you provide is invaluable.

     

     

    Helps to scatter the canards.

  21. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    Get Lt Colombo in…he will sort this out, although he may have to call on 221b Baker St for a consultation with a cocaine addled fictional detective.

     

    Failing that…call the Keystone Cops in, they will chase Buster Keaton and Ben Turpin for at least 12 years, but never catch them.

     

    Should work:)

     

     

    HH

  22. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    How about this one before i sleep.

     

    There was this group of rebels, and they got fed up hearing the same old, old bs.

     

    They were fed up to the back teeth with the empire, and the barrage of lies and deceit.

     

    So, they decided to do something about…and sure enough, it sparked something, that is still celebrated to this very day.

     

    I wonder if it will have any influence, on those inclined to fight for what they believe in.

     

    Those in positions of absolute power, should never forget the lessons of history.

     

    Its a foolish man who ignores the will of the people.

     

     

    HH

  23. 16 roads - Celtic über alles... on

    This place is beginning to freak me out, seriously.

     

     

    Agendas all over the shop , that’s what it’s reading like.

     

     

    Somebody is telling lies.

     

     

    There is definitely a cabal on here that are not to be trusted, and I’ve yet to meet any of them, in person.

     

     

    Perhaps the much vilified Petec was correct all along?

     

     

    Whatever, it appears to be an attempt to tear the Celtic Football Club at the seams.

     

     

    Motives?

     

     

    The only saving grace is that a powerful amount of Celtic supporters have no interest, and don’t even read CQN.

     

     

    Masonic.

     

     

    The Craft.

     

     

    Praise be to Jesus Christ, the Saviour – and all those who never sold their souls.

     

     

    I acknowledge that the entire system in Scottish football is corrupt to the core ,and

     

    that they cheated – It’s always been the same.

     

     

    Obviously recognise also the main issue being that those who run the football club have possibly been complicit in the scam – which is unforgivable – there’s no way back for PL and Dermot Desmond, if this proves to be the case.

     

     

    They are gone, finished.

     

     

    I’m not reading anymore,far too complicated for me – what happens, happens.

     

     

    Good luck to the genuine Tims, all the rest can gtf.

     

     

    The Celtic Football Club is infinite.

     

     

    HH.

  24. Hail Hail CQNERS

     

     

    I have been perplexed over the last week or so at everybody and his brother seeming to suggest all sorts of nefarious activities taking place at Celtic Park.

     

     

    So I for one say a huge thank you to that small band of proper Celtic men who are keeping their eye on the ball in order to give the Celtic support the best chance of seeing a conclusion we can live with in regard to Res 12.

     

     

    BRTH I would like to offer my congratulations and sincere thanks for taking the time to put some matters straight and not being mealy-mouthed in the process.

     

     

    The Celtic family owe you and your cohorts a debt of thanks in my humble opinion and I hope and pray they come to see that for themselves sooner rather than later and ignore the nonsense currently on offer from people who do not care a jot for Celtic FC and it’s supporters.

     

     

    Power to your elbow.

     

     

    Hail Hail

  25. 16 roads - Celtic über alles... on

    As if by magic.

     

     

    Stole the 1888 post as well.

     

     

    Zombie mofo.

     

     

    Yer welcome to it.

     

     

    2012 posse.

     

     

    Gone.

  26. 16 roads - Celtic über alles... on

    Macjay 1 – Sorry mo chara, watched the first 5 minutes, and that was woeful enough – God only knows what the last 5 minutes is going to be like.

     

     

    How do you source this tripe?

     

     

    Trump is just another lowlife politician, that’s all.

     

     

    Unfortunately Trump is the only alternative to that Hilary Clinton chancer.

     

     

    Backed and subsidised to the hilt by the NWO, the banks, George Soros etc.

     

     

    He’s a dead man walking anyway, if they don’t assassinate him directly, he gonna end up like Hugo Chavez – a genuine legend, but a dead one. Same as JFK.

     

     

    HH.

  27. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    16 roads – Celtic über alles… on 29th March 2016 5:35 am –

     

     

    Source ? My son. :-)

     

    Mate .

     

    That`s why I suggested you watch the last 5 mins.

     

    Where you might find something you agree with.

  28. Just on to say….

     

    Hoooooopy Birthday LEFTCLICKTIC, one of the most genuine, generous Bhoys you will ever have the pleasure to meet.

     

    Have a great day mate.

     

    Keep the Faith!

     

    Hail Hail!

  29. 16 roads - Celtic über alles... on

    Macjay 1 – Listen to me.

     

     

    Shouda been asleep about 5 hours ago mo chara, so I’m in enough trouble as it is.

     

     

    No dis-respect to anybody, but I’ve no interest in what the American version of Julian Clary has to say about the United States election campaign.

     

     

    It’s all nonsense.

     

     

    No offence intended,and apologies if a sound ignorant.

     

     

    God bless ye Celtic legend.

     

     

    As they say in Russia – Moscow.

     

     

    HH.

  30. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    16 ROADS – CELTIC ÜBER ALLES… on 29TH MARCH 2016 6:25 AM

     

    Macjay 1 – Listen to me.

     

     

    =======================================

     

     

    :-)

     

    :-)

     

    :-)

  31. 16 roads - Celtic über alles... on

    Lol.

     

     

    Macjay 1 – The only good thing is that when ye are winding up an eejit like me, means some other poor fool is getting a wee break!

     

     

    Cheerio the noo.

     

     

    :)

     

     

    HH.

  32. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    16 roads – Celtic über alles… on 29th March 2016 6:42 am –

     

     

    I wasn`t at the wind up.

     

    Honest.

     

    I`m too serious for that.

     

     

    Schlaf gut .

     

    Or words to that effect.

  33. BRTH

     

     

    I’ve just read your post and don’t have the time to reply this morning what with work calling.

     

     

    I will point out Jim, at no point, either last night or any time previously, have I questioned the integrity of the Resolutioners, either stated or implied.

  34. Good morning friends from a dry and much brighter looking (than of late) East Kilbride.

  35. Know what ?

     

    See all this res : 12 stuff, it signals the end of Celtic FC.

     

    Too many liars play out their own wee ego-trip-dripping-agends…imho.

     

    Chuck it!

     

    Just finish Celtic Football Club awe the gither!

     

    Shut the club doon!

     

    The club will, from this point on……never know peace.

     

    Withdraw oot of the Scottish league!

     

    Withdraw oot of Uefa!

     

    Give the stadium oot to all the, homeless, asylum seekers, refugees, immigrants.

     

    It’s over!

     

    Get out now!

     

    If, the club decides to just limp along, aimlessly it will know no peace.

     

    If you choose to continue to invest in it you’ll have nothing but pain being visited upon you.

     

    It’s over…….

     

    Let it g-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o………

     

    Dear, dear, dear….so, so, sad.