I was considerably alarmed at this morning’s Daily Record article, which appears to equate calls for an inquiry into an alleged conspiracy to subvert tax law, as well as SFA and SPL rules, on a level with sectarianism. Most clearly here:
“Of course, this will infuriate the self-proclaimed, proud ‘bampots’ on social media toiling away 24/7 in pursuit of justice for Scottish football.
“Their irreversibly entrenched view will always be that ‘the Protestant establishment club cheated on an industrial scale’”.
I’m disturbed that so many people on social media are having their views on rule breaking caricatured as an anti-Protestant witch-hunt.
This is wildly inaccurate, sinister and inflammatory. A sign, perhaps, of the direction of travel in this debate.
This bit is really, REALLY, important.
If there is a perception that there is a risk to social media users this debate is closed – trust me on this one. Right now, some are asking themselves, “How much sectarian hatred are the media prepared to stir up if we talk about this?”
Convince people their club’s record is being questioned, not because of rule breaking, but for religious reasons, and you open Pandora’s Box – and we all know this.
Don’t get angry. This angle is thus far isolated, should be mocked and we should quickly move on.
If you want the debate to take place, don’t lose focus and stick to the point: were tax laws, SFA and SPL rules broken, if so, was this an oversight, or was there a conspiracy to subvert the rules and earlier inquiries?
Perhaps most importantly, this is the time for other clubs and their fans to have their say.
Jim Craig and Brendan Sweeney on CQN TONIGHT!
Lisbon Lion, Jim Craig, and Celt for Change, Brendan Sweeny, Live chat on CQN tonight.
I’m absolutely delighted we have yet another Lisbon Lion, Jim Craig, on CQN tonight, as well as a one of the most influential fans in our history, Brendan Sweeny (who will cringe at reading that).
Brendan has researched and written Celtic: The Early Years, forward by Jim. It is the most incredible account of the how and why a football club was formed in Parkhead in 1888, and the seismic events which shaped its future during the Early Years.
Both will be on CQN tonight from 7:30, you can ask questions on the blog and chat to them. Ask Jim about those great times, his career after football, or what’s going on at the club now.
Brendan, as an integral part of Celts for Change, Jungle Bhoys and now Celtic Graves Society, has been a force of nature for the Celtic cause. This is also about as far into the limelight as he’s ever likely to emerge!
Premium Seats competition for Kilmarnock game on Saturday
Magners, Celtic’s main sponsor, are offering fans the chance to win a pair of Premium Seat tickets in the Jock Stein Stand to the match. All you have to do is answer the following question:
Who was Celtic manager when Kilmarnock won their first game in over half a century?
Email answer to celticquicknews@gmail.com with the answer in the email SUBJECT box.
Competition closes at 22:00 tonight, so this is a one day target!
On another subject, Ad hominem, def:
An ad hominem (Latin for “to the man” or “to the person”), is an attack on an argument made by attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, rather than attacking the argument directly. When used inappropriately, it is a logical fallacy in which a claim or argument is dismissed on the basis of some irrelevant fact or supposition about the author or the person being criticised.
Just saying……..
Time for some Labi Siffre tunes.
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Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on 18th November 2015 4:42 pm
Nobody has been more critical than me of our BOARD.
Getting rid of them may be the easy part.
Replacing them with folk with stomach for the fight may be more difficult.
The only option is to put pressure on the present lot.
And no matter how difficult some might find it to stomach, the way to do it is at the turnstile.
Make it plain to them that if they want THEM over principle, they can enjoy THEM in an empty stadium.
Hopefully, there will be some forceful, measured speaking from the floor at AGM.
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“Learn To Fly”
Run and tell all of the angels
This could take all night
Think I need a devil to help me get things right
Hook me up a new revolution
‘Cause this one is a lie
We sat around laughing and watched the last one die
NOWA
Awe Naw
Absolutely spot on!
Chaps……………….
AGM’s………….they are not the places where the wee guy gets his showdown with the BIG guys.
Nothing of interest ever happens at an AGM, unless it’s in the movies.
They are a stipulated choreographed corporate responsibility.
HH
B/tim- and supporters too I would hope!
AOW
Thoughts and prayers.
HH
I think it is best to keep your powder dry until after the appeal if there is one. I believe once that is past HMRC will move in as will others in Scottish football who are not happy at the going ons at Ibrokes or the SFA and the SPL the decent people in Scottish football surely cannot let this pass they like us will know if the whole mess is not cleaned up properly Scottish football will surely die. H.H.
On an other note.
Feck the DR and the jurno shouldn’t give them the time of day.
Dont buy it.
HH
DBBIA
The etc was to cover all bases ☘⚽️
Sinister, inflammatory and reeking of desperation.
We’ve just posted a feature on Jim Craig who will be on CQN this evening from 7.30pm to answer your questions.
Brendan Sweeney will also be on the blog tonight and will be happy to answer questions on his new book Celtic The Early Years and on the Celts For Change movement that helped save our club in 1994.
Jim and Brendan will be happy to sign copies of the book tonight and will add personal dedications as requested.
You can buy the book at cqnbookstore.com and email any personal message to me and I will get this added. Your Book will be posted out tomorrow anywhere in world. This is a very special book that took Brendan five years to research and write.
My email address is david@cqnpublishing.co.uk
Awe Naw
Isn’t it just possible that the club know that they would only isolate themselves and us at a time when the tactic is to be part of what all the clubs are pushing for?
Celtic shouting about this on their own is what would play entirely into the hands of the people who want the SFA to do nothing.
By couching their statement in the terms they did, the club have the deniability required when this other despicable campaign gathers momentum – as it will do.
NOWA
That piece of gutter journalism in The Record today trawled the depths …
http://thecelticblog.com/2015/11/blogs/the-daily-record-and-an-unacceptable-charge
Can I ask (with a straight face) if the DR listed the journalistic credentials and club loyalties of Mr Mooney prominently today?
Just so that the readers would appreciate his built in bias..
Evening Timland from a cold hun free mountain valley.
AoW
Best of to your sister in law, thoughts with your family, and the donors.
HH
RWE- yes; I thought if they had commissioned a piece from Paul67 it is unlikely that they would omit to mention his role as a legendary Celtic bhlogger..almost as unlikely as commissioning an article in the first place.
On a happier note series 3 of ‘The Bridge’ starts on Saturday; wee Saga is flyin’solo after the actor who played Martin flounced.
I thought that the piece in the record today was an attempt to get the club to say something, they are desperate to drag us down with them.
As NA2 said earlier, only in an openly sectarian society would they get away with publishing stuff like that.
I don’t have the answer, but what I do know is that money, or the lack of it, is all they will listen to, take that away from them, you will get what you want, end of.
Awe_Naw @ 4.42.
You are right, that the statement was induced through reaction of the shareholders, and supporters, in the internet and new media age, I was mildly surprised we bothered, though.
I also agree that despite it being quite well deposited to merely reaffirm ‘Celtic’s surprise at LNS etc ’, it was reminiscent to our polite enquiry about the other type of physical, slight of hand, in the ICT semi final.
A well-worded and subtle ( for Celtic ) statement, caused a SMSM media led sectarian fuelled maelstrom, which was only stopped short in its tracks because of more serious world events.
Labelling Celtic, whether it be the board, the PLC, or the supporters, as ‘Old Firm’ is hurtful to Celtic supporters. Celtic Football Club successfully discarded the label years before, it was miraculously reinvented and brushed down as soon as they died. It’s always been your mantra to be very supportive of the team, but diametrically opposed to anything connected to the boardroom or it’s strategy, therefore you’ll forgive me for adopting a wait and see attitude, for a bit longer.
If the Celtic boardroom status transpires to be as ‘truthful’ as you maintain on these pages in relation to ‘old firmism ’ and what happened in 2012 and since ( it’s not finished and we don’t know all the facts yet ) at best, it will alter the way, in which I’ll continue to support Celtic, forever.
I think I’ve mentioned that before.
HH
TET
Just how cold is it?
Under 19s fitba – Ireland 0 Scotland 4 so Scotland qualify for the Elite round. Aiden Nesbitt got one, the others were scored by Ryan Hardie, Ross McCrorie and a guy called Kiltie – brilliant name for a Scotland player :)
can a fan or fan group sue the SFA over lack of governance, deception, improper policy management etc… is this a viable avenue for a paying customer?
RWE…great video, gave me goose bumps. Belated congratulations on Tony’s award, thoroughly merited.
Strength to all your dear ones.
BSR
“it will alter the way, in which I’ll continue to support Celtic, forever. ”
My feelings, too. I hope it does not come to that.
Incidentally, I saw your post explaining why the BBC site had referred to Henryk as ` former Man U player`.
I was looking for something else and happened to spot the photo of Henryk and just read the bit underneath it without knowing what it was all about. Suitably chastised and I will know better in future. 0:-)
JJ
JJHS
Prob not as cold as where you are, it has been below zero the past few days when I get up, still hit low 20s in the afternoon tho, lit the stove tonight for the first time since last winter, not that we need it, but it keeps the wife happy, she likes the warm glow from the stove :-)
HH
DBBIA
*Spoiler Alert*
Did Martin not get the jail at the end of season 2?
TET
Thanks,
I don`t think we`ve been below zero yet but neither have we been in the low 20`s ! It has been unseasonably warm, though. Certainly many days in the teens. Warmish rain 0:-)
That`s it. If I find myself talking about the weather I know I have had enough!
Cheerio and roll on Saturday and proper football,
JJ
JJHS
Same here, I’m clinging to hope, no fool like an old fool? ;-)
I get caught with things like the ‘Henrik headline’ constantly.
JJ#BSR
It’s called brainwashing.
You just automaticlly assume, it’s the smsm after all :-)
HH
TeT
Just read a woman who started a petition for uk to close its borders currently lives in Spain
Now I know what you mean about those ex pats you argue with
BT
They are total winkers, thankfully I don’t have to actually see them, but they are a doddle to wind up.
I posted this artical on their blog today, jeezo, they were going to string me up, then they removed the artical and the posts, I got an e mail from the admin pleading with me to stop posting.
I told him to gtf.
They can’t seem to stop me, my blocker thing works a treat for a few posts, then my mask slips :-)
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article43457.htm
HH
DBBIA
After what I remember of the first couple of series, that’s Saga spelt with a silent ‘h’ I’d imagine.
“They said they were going to send me to retirement,” he said. “I sent their whole nation into retirement.”
Gotta love Zlatan.
TeT
Your some man
some of you might recall my posting of last month (missing the hoot’). i posted a photo of my eldest son at his daughters christening. since then charles attended scotlands super hospital to address an issue of an irregular drip of fluid (from the sinus area) going down his throat
it transpired that this was cranial fluid leaking from cracks(2) in his scull (the result of a car crash two years ago when he underwent brain surgery) the consequences of this leak could be meningitis or just as its easy to crush a cracked egg in your hand its almost impossible to crush a complete one
the surgeon also gave the prognosis that a part of charles’ brain had became trapped in one of these cracks and as its been trapped for neigh on two years the best solution was to burn it off and plug the cracks with effectively a skin graph from charles’ nasal passages
the procedure took 6hours and i received a call to say all went well, after calling round the family i unmuted the tv just to hear tom jones’ rendition of ‘you are my sunshine’…….and that fills me up under normal circumstances. anyway the bhoys home now, he’ll be off work for a month to let things knit
https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-xal1/v/t1.0-1/p160x160/12088293_1025445240809101_540630355952017565_n.jpg?oh=e2e7df2cd2fd78cdd896d3b2a78bef7e&oe=56F35845&__gda__=1458412141_36bf5daa4f712b40d5f445f4dda51f11
Wee Saga
CHARLIEBHOY
Thoughts with your bhoy.
HH
charliebhoy,
Hope Charles makes a full recovery.