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Spartak sack manager Emeri after derby defeat

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Spartak Moscow today sacked manager Unai Emeri after a 1-5 home league defeat against eight placed Dinamo Moscow.  Spartak are confirmed as bottom of Celtic’s Champions League group before they head to Celtic Park for the final game on 5 December.

Emeri has been increasingly unpopular since taking over earlier this year when his spell at Valencia ended, while rumours of dissent in the dressing room were never far away.  I had hoped he would remain in place for the visit to Glasgow but there will be a new man in charge by then.

A group of around 200 supporters demonstrated after the game, many chanting for the foreign players to ‘Go home’.

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  1. Had a few guests at the game yesterday, one visiting CP for the first time from California, was very disappointed at the performance ( As well as the other results at home recently ).

     

    I really do not know the answer to it, I certainly hope Neil does. There is no urgency or flair in our play, no real passion, no fight, no onslaught on the visitors goal when needed.

     

    And as usual what about the officials? Linesman with flags raised in record time when a dubious Celtic ball goes out of play, A ref who, NOT once spoke to any Caley player or keeper for time wasting, kicking ball away etc, one of the slowest substitutions ever made. A Caley player swinging his arm twice in disgust in front of the ref, who does nothing. 3 minutes extra time when there are 6 subs used and two stoppages in the game over two minutes each. Shocking.

     

    Saying that I still think we will win at swinecastle, but not really looking forward to the Arbroath game, as yesterday showed we really miss the GB for atmosphere

     

     

    Hail Hail

  2. SOAL 13.14

     

     

    That is Heartening news.

     

     

    Let’s hope their reserve sides are not as strong opposition as ICT or St Johnstone.(:-)

     

    A67

  3. Buddy morrisey

     

     

    That’s exactly what happens …

     

     

    It can be quite amusing when Hun coppers are called FB’s …

  4. Hi folks don’t post that often but something that Awe Naw and weeminger have said have caught my interest.

     

     

    Elgin weren’t the first team this season to have oversold their capacity. They were just the first to be caught for doing it.

  5. Awe_Naw

     

     

    I didn’t know that about Private Eye and BDO, well I never :>)

     

     

    Am going to have to have a wee look.

     

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    weeminger

     

     

    I could possibly see it if their ground held 50k and up, but 4,500 and to sell 25% more tickets, aye, something no right there.

  6. I think that a draw against Spartak will be enough to see us qualify.

     

     

    Just can’t see Benfica taking anything from the Nou Camp.

  7. Glendalystonsils likes a mr whippy with his lime green jelly on

    My tuppence worth.

     

    Neil is justified in being unhappy with the fans but wrong to air it in public. It only gives the MSM fuel to destabilise the team.

     

    I hope he is even more unhappy with the team and is even more voluble in letting them know it (in private of course).

  8. Paul67…Slightly off-topic but to those in the know, there has been lots of gloating from therangers side about how they have been wrongly accused of cheating, dodging, tainted titles etc.

     

     

    Thinking with heads now and not hearts, is this the end of it now and can we all get back to the football or do people think that they could still be found guilty of something and that there will be some element of punishment coming their way?

     

     

    Seems like a massive anti-climax…

  9. 67Heaven @ 12:59

     

     

    [Quoting Tom English …] ”and whatever you think of him (David Murray), he has always fought his corner.”

     

     

    No wonder the bu88er fought his corner: he was systematically skimming off millions, in the form of tax free ‘loans’ from the supposed profits of a company that was running at a massive loss.

     

     

    All the while assuming that the NHS will be there to treat him when he needs it, that his Bentley will have nice motorways to drive on and that his country will be safe under the watchful gaze of a well-trained and equipped military.

     

     

    FF

  10. Glendalystonsils likes a mr whippy with his lime green jelly on

    The Spirit of Arthur Lee

     

     

     

    13:28 on 25 November, 2012

     

     

     

    Looking forward to the battle of the birds

     

     

    Female mud wrestling?

  11. HT

     

     

    I wish I shared your confidence re Benefica …

     

     

    Also we’ll need to improve considerably to take anything from Moscow…

  12. ArranmoreBhoyLXV11 on

    HH

     

     

    yes the oversold tickets.. I agree – given Health & Safety issues these days – it’s virtually impossible without something being a bit….strange..

     

     

    MSM choosing to ignore..

     

     

    Meanwhile the extra money is where?

     

     

    HH

  13. Article from the Sunday Times

     

     

    Rangers tax case heads for extra time

     

     

    Mark Macaskill and Douglas Alexander Published: 24 November 2012

     

    Comment (0) Print

     

    H ER Majesty’s Revenue & Customs (HMRC) is “almost certain” to appeal after its failed case against the former Rangers football club.

     

     

    A source close to the HMRC described its officials as “staggered” last week after a tribunal ruled that £48m of payments to players and staff in a controversial tax avoidance scheme were not illegal. The source, speaking on condition of anonymity, said that there was an appetite to appeal.

     

     

    HMRC has until the new year to do so and a spokesman insisted on Friday that no decision had been taken.

     

     

    Last night, a leading tax specialist said the HMRC, which claims to win about 70% of its legal battles, regarded the Rangers dispute as too important to abandon.

     

     

    Winning the case, he said, could pave the way for action against other football clubs that used employee benefit trusts (EBTs) until 2010, when tax laws changed.

     

     

    HMRC has put the value of lost tax from EBTs at £1.7bn, with schemes run by football clubs thought to account for more than half of that sum.

     

     

    “As we understand it, this is largely a test case,” said John Whiting, a tax policy director at the London-based Chartered Institute of Taxation.

     

     

    “HMRC have been attacking all sorts of EBTs, they generally don’t like them, and here wehave a very high-profile use of an EBT, which clearly the Revenue has tried in the courts to defeat. There’s a lot riding on it because there has been widespread use of them. I would say it’s all but certain they will appeal [against] this one because of the money at stake and because one of the judges found in their favour.”

     

     

    HMRC had argued that £48m in payments by Rangers to players and staff via EBTs amounted to wages and was liable to tax. Rangers insisted payments to players were loans rather than earnings and were not taxable.

     

     

    The three members of the first-tier tribunal, which heard the Rangers case, could not agree on an unanimous verdict. Kenneth Mure QC and lawyer Scott Rae found in favour of Rangers, ruling that the cash paid to players were loans intended to be paid back. However, accountancy expert Dr Heidi Poon maintained the loans would never be enforced or repaid.

     

     

    Last week, Sir David Murray, the former owner of Rangers, welcomed the tribunal’s verdict after “an exceptionally long, difficult and expensive process”. He has threatened legal action against an anonymous blogger and others who published apparently confidential material from the tribunal hearing.

     

     

    Murray is also in dispute with the BBC over material acquired for broadcasts and articles that he feels prejudged the outcome of the tax case. The BBC has declined to comment.

     

     

    “A substantial quantity of confidential information relating to the case has become available for public consumption, stimulating considerable discussion and often illinformed debate,” he said.

     

     

    Speaking to The Sunday Times, Murray defended the use of EBTs and revealed that his business empire had paid hundreds of millions of pounds in tax. “They were were legal. I don’t live outside the UK and in a 10-year period the group has paid in excess of £200m of tax so we are not tax evaders as a company. We started the arrangements in 2001 and when the law changed in December 2010, we stopped immediately.”

     

     

    EBT schemes allow for money to be either paid into a British company account on which corporation tax is charged or to an overseas company or trust. The payments avoid income tax and national insurance for both the employer and the employee. Arsenal has admitted to historical use of EBTs to pay some players but the club is understood to have resolved any issues with HMRC.

     

     

    Celtic admitted using the tax scheme in one instance for Juninho Paulista, its former midfielder, but the Scottish Premier League has stated that it did not breach its rules in the matter.

     

     

    A spokesman for the HMRC, which is encouraging companies that have used EBTs to come forward to arrange settlements, said: “We are disappointed that we have lost this stage of the court process and we are considering an appeal. The decision was not unanimous and the diligence of HMRC investigators was acknowledged by the whole tribunal. HMRC is committed to tackling avoidance.”

  14. Ithink I first read this on here a few years ago, I think it was Aw Naw that posted it though im probably wrong as i often am :)))

     

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    We’LL see

     

     

    A farmer had only one horse. One day, his horse ran away.

     

     

    All the neighbors came by saying, “I’m so sorry. This is such bad news. You must be so upset.” The man just said, “We’ll see.”

     

     

    A few days later, his horse came back with twenty wild horses. The man and his son corraled all 21 horses.

     

     

    All the neighbors came by saying, “Congratulations! This is such good news. You must be so happy!” The man just said, “We’ll see.”

     

     

    One of the wild horses kicked the man’s only son, breaking both his legs.

     

     

    All the neighbors came by saying, “I’m so sorry. This is such bad news. You must be so upset.” The man just said, “We’ll see.”

     

     

    The country went to war, and every able-bodied young man was drafted to fight. The war was terrible and killed every young man, but the farmer’s son was spared, since his broken legs prevented him from being drafted.

     

     

    All the neighbors came by saying, “Congratulations! This is such good news. You must be so happy!” The man just said, “We’ll see.”

  15. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    arranmorebhoylxv11

     

     

    Follow the money …. All the way to a brown bag ….normally used to confiscate evidence at crime scenes

     

     

    HH

  16. A cold hard look at facts is an absolute must for any organisation, business, political, social, sporting, whatever if it is to progress in a healthy and proper manner.

     

     

    It is what I hope Neil and his Bhoys are doing today or tomorrow. It is what I hope the custodians of the club do I hope. There can be no turning of blind eyes, no deaf ears and every potential pitfall and warning sign should be read. Good results cannot be allowed to gloss over the facts. This is pertinent to Celtic as a team and a club, but it isn’t just what I’m getting at……

     

     

    There is another group of people who support a different club, they now support a new one. And it seems to me they have been pretty consistent in refusing to take a cold hard look at the facts. The ‘victory’ in the FTT (such as it is – and if anyine has not yet read Brogan Rogan etc take on it then you really should, particularly if you are a sevconian) seems to have acted as yet another massive distraction for them.

     

     

    The Cold HArd Facts which always convinced me that they would go bust (and they did) are what now convinces me they are doomed again.

     

     

    I am not going to list them. Look at them. They are there for all to see.

     

     

    If they weren’t the most unlikeable bunch of people ever to disgrace planet fitba then I might feel sorry for them. But I don’t. In fact I am revelling in their continued misfortune. They are where they are because they hate people like me and mine, you and yours. Just deserts have arrived. Jelly and Ice Cream is still very much on the menu.

  17. From earlier

     

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    Imagine being the head of the family,we will call it the celtic family.

     

     

    On a daily basis you get verbally abused by your neighbours,but know that your loving family is worth the hassle.

     

     

    Imagine that when leavig the family home to go for a pint after work you are assaulted and abused by your undesireable neighbours on a regular basis.

     

     

    Even when you have to work away at undesireable places like tynecastle and you get physically attacked by people you know that the love & support of youir family help you through this.

     

     

    Imagine in the course of doing your job you were sent death threats ,bombs and bullets through the post and the verbal abuse reached new levels but all the time you new that your familly were making sure you were not walking alone through all of this.

     

     

    Imagine that through all this the police and judiciary seemed to fail you and the only solace you had was knowing that you were working hard doing a job to provide joy for you & your family.

     

     

    Then imagine after one of the biggest family parties EVER, when thanks to your combined efforts most of the family members had the best night of their life, you are standing in the FAMILY home and one of your family members in front of his wife and children(alledgedly) and the rest of the family angrily tells you that in his opinion you are not doing a good job for the celtic family.

     

     

    HOW WOULD YOU FEEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

     

    Till later bhoys & Ghirls ENJOY THE MOMENT Its all we have

  18. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on

    weeminger

     

     

    13:08 on 25 November, 2012

     

     

    There’s something fishy about the Elfin postponement. In this day and age its the kind of mistake that’s almost impossible to make.

     

     

    …it did coincide with Sally saying he had a lot of injured players……LOL

  19. Philbhoy

     

     

    No need for apologies.

     

     

    Find it all a bit frustrating how Celtic men turn spooning quick.

     

     

    Keep the faith

     

     

    Mtt

  20. Pfayr

     

     

    Spartak at home will be a completely different event from ICT at home.

     

     

    I’m confident we’ll see the real Celtic turn up.

     

     

    Right, must dash.

  21. The Falcon

     

     

    Celtic V Dundee

     

     

    Centenary year championship clincher

     

     

    Must have been closer to 100,000 than the published 67 ,000 (capacity). Remember this is cash at the gates, no season tickets and no seating in 3/4 of the ground.

  22. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on

    Tom (English) this isn’t over yet……more, previously concealed, evidence will surface…

  23. Put it this way. You either print all the tickets you need in advance and distribute them to sales points. Or you have a computerised system that counts each ticket sold as you go along. It should automatically stop once the limit is reached and would usually provide nearly sold iyt warnings as that point approaches. The only way I can foresee what has happened occurring is if somebody sold tickets they didn’t have on the assumption they could get more. I know who my prime suspect is.

  24. Re the Spartak sacking

     

    Often new coaches have a clearout, and and it would be great if we could get Aidan on loan for 6 months at Xmas.

     

    Aidan down one wing , Jamesy on the other with big Vic , Broony in the middle of a 4 4 2 would be electric.

     

     

    One last point regarding yesterday, I wonder if we need a couple of Paul Hartley / Barry Robson’s in the squad for games like yesterday ? I don’t necessarily mean someone who plays in the middle , but more about their profile , of late developers , who have scrapped and scraped in their careers and would relish playing for Celtic at 29/30 years old, and realise it was their big and only opportunity ?

  25. Dear Santa,

     

     

    For my Christmas can I please have –

     

     

    Qualification into last 16 of champions league

     

    Top spot in the league

     

    An appeal by HMRC on the FTT decision.

     

    Sevco share issue failure.

     

     

    Yes Decembr should be quite an jnteresting month.

     

     

    Yours sincerely,

     

     

    Estoril.

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