For three months a charade took place, where Craig Whyte – who is and will remain owner of Rangers until they are finally ‘flushed away’, Duff and Phelps, The Blue Knight(s), Bill Miller, Charles Green, several members of the accountancy profession who should have known better, and some of the Fourth Estate, who clearly didn’t know better, all told you Rangers were likely to achieve a CVA.
As we (and several others) told you, a CVA was never, ever, going to be accepted by HMRC. A cursory glance at the HMRC web site would confirm that. Once Alex Salmond had his wings clipped, that debate was over.
The charade was a distraction. There are many other distractions available today and they will multiply in the days to come, but I reckon if you’re looking for the critical path on this one you should keep an eye on Lord Carloway. The chair of the SFA Appellate Panel is worth listening out for. Say his name in hushed tones, better still, abbreviate. Even the mention of LC will cause anxiety and distress, for some.
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From the previous thread… and non Gers related so be warned…. but still full of names that should be spoken in hushed tones right enough…..
Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan supports Kano 1000 on 13 June, 2012 at 12:30 said:
wonkyradar on 13 June, 2012 at 10:50 said:
Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan supports Kano 1000 on 13 June, 2012 at 10:01 said:
Wonkyradar
That was a great post and I agree with you wholeheartedly.
Ali was greatest because he fought everyone. He missed out no one who was anyone, and fitted in those who he would refer to as the bum of the month!
He fought more times than the others and across more generations than the others.
Not only did he have great hand speed, footspeed and the ability to either get on his bike and dance or cut off the ring, but he had that magic ability to absorb a punch, take a hit, even a knockdown and get back up. In short beyond his boxing abilities he had the ability to win fights.
It should also be remembered that between the second Liston fight and his enforced exile for 4 years at his prime, he could not afford to allow there to be an excuse for any judge to award a decision against him. His popularity– or unpopularity– was such that having embraced Islam, many judges, boxing commissions, referees or whoever would have found cause to award fights to his opponents given the chance. He never gave them that chance until the first Frazier fight.
With no disrespect to Joe, he did not fight everyone. His progression was carefully managed by Eddie Futch and he avoided some guys altogether. For example, there was as much of a chance of you and me fighting Shavers together than Joe taking him on. Joe was a slow starter and Ernie banged harder than anyone else– and they all acknowledged that– and if Ernie banjoed Joe early doors then Joe’s long winning streak was at an end. That winning streak was carefully preserved too.
Further, Ali’s absence allowed the likes of Joe to come through the ranks and build up that head of steam. Had Ali been allowed to box throughout the late 60′s, would Joe’s handlers have put him in with him? Yes when he got to No1 contender status, but that could have been as early as ’68. Would Frazier have beaten a non retired Ali in 1968? It would certainly have been a very different Ali than the one who took to the ring in Madison Square Garden after a 4 year layoff.
It is also noticeable that Holmes chose his time to step out of the shadows very carefully. He was by no means a “young” fighter when he climbed to the peak.. Again he was carefully promoted. With his ramrod straight murderous jab, Holmes may well have been a match for anyone. But he was susceptible to the big hit. Both Shavers and Ronaldo Snipes had him out- both on the deck or on his feet- but for whatever reason the powers that be rescued Larry.
As can be seen with Joe and indeed with Tyson, once the air of invincibility is shattered, then many a boxer is never the same again because they know they can be beaten…. and their opponents know the same thing.
Ali was tremendously strong mentally. He could climb back up the hill both between fights and during fights. He took on real toughies and let them bang away till the time was right. Big George and Oscar Bonavena are but two examples. You mentioned George Chuvalo– jeez– there was a brick wall! Not the greatest by any manner of means but you could hit the man with a wrecking ball and he would still stand there and swing dangerously. Joe Frazier brutally fractured George Chuvalo’s orbit (the bone under the eye) so badly that Chuvalo needed reconstructive surgery to correct the injury as his eye partially dropped into the fault line fracture. A career ending injury for anyone sensible, but Chuvelo just resumed fighting and shouted “next!”
Ernie is proof enough that having a big dig was simply not enough in that era to scale the heights, to a certain extent Cooney’s career tells a similar story.
Ali had it all, both inside and out, upstairs iu the brain and downstairs in the Engine room.
Big George is an amazing man– a complete reinvention of the Big Bad George persona that got “Whupped” in Kinshasa, although he still does not rate Ali at the very top of his boxing list. He says that Ali was not the greatest fighter technically but perhaps was the greatest man.
It is an interesting observation, and although Big George is the big happy smiling bear with the multi million pound grill and a love of God, it must rankle that he is best remembered for a fight that he lost! To that extent George’s opinion must be coloured– even a little. However, taking it a face value, what he says is that being the Greatest inside the head and heart can make up for whatever technical failings you may have in the ring— but oh how many would only dream about being as technically lacking in such proficiency as Ali?
People should remember George for his utter destruction of the career that once was Joe Frazier’s, and if you like sheer frightening.. and I do mean Frightening… power and menace in a Boxer they should look at the consequences of the one and only round between George and Ken Norton in Caracas Venezuela. Hugh McIlvanney describes that round brilliantly and leaves you with the feeling that George is the unstoppable force with the menace of a million Listons!!! That is one of the fights that lead McIlvanney to question whether Boxing could really be a sport?
George was the beast from the lagoon… a boxer to terrify boxers and trainers alike. The big bag, trainers, sparring partners… the whole world….. moved when Big George Connected with a B O O M!
That was of course until he bumped into the biggest loudmouthed, impertinent, bragadoccio, charismatic big hearted and mentally alert fighter that ever put on a pair of gloves in Zaire. George has said that as he was lying on the canvass a question went through his head: ” How did I end up down here?”.
Maybe that one question from the guy who was considered the biggest and baddest on the planet at the time explains just why Ali was indeed …. The Greatest!
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kitalba on 13 June, 2012 at 12:19 said:
maybe a posthumous 2 of spades for farry if there is any cards left ;)
Hunty would be one of my jokers
Has anyone in the media asked Charlie Bhoy who the 3 newco clubs are that have be admitted to the SPL?
Better still, has someone asked Doncaster to comment on this revelation?
James79 (12.31pm), they could probably get more than that for Davies and McGregor, never mind the value of the rest of their squad, their SPL share and the sites and fixtures & fittings of Ibrox and Murray Park.
Prefab Liquidation
Whytesnake
AC/TUPE
Green Day
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BigChipsUK – Supporting Celtic… and Whizz-Kidz on 13 June, 2012 at 12:36 said:
James79 (12.31pm), they could probably get more than that for Davies and McGregor, never mind the value of the rest of their squad, their SPL share and the sites and fixtures & fittings of Ibrox and Murray Park.
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To be honest mate thats what I was thinking, the whole thing seems to be a stitch up and I just think its not in the best interests of the creditors for that deal to go through!!!
http://www.channel4.com/news/where-would-rangers-trophies-go
Hello, hello:
14-in-a-row
14-in-a-row
Hello, hello …
The termites are returning to the wood.
Sash and the Kyle Bartley Ceilidh Band
Have also heard that ibrox is riddled with asbestos and they cant touch it cause they dont know how much it will cost to fix, anbody confirm this??
James79 on 13 June, 2012 at 12:42 said:
Have also heard that ibrox is riddled with asbestos and they cant touch it cause they dont know how much it will cost to fix, anbody confirm this??
I know it was teflon coated for many years but this is wearing thin
Afternoon Paul et Al,
I have a confession to make…..
For the first time in MANY MANY years, I bought myself a copy of the Daily Record today. I also got a copy of the Herald.
And you know what?….. I’m not even sorry!!! Hahahahahahahahaha!
Have a wonderful hun-free day everyone :-)
p.s. I’ve never had a hangover that felt SO good :-))
gersandy sums up why the world doesn’t want them and never did:
‘For the record, of course i’ll be supporting the newco. But the guys entitled to withdraw his support. Just as my great grandpa was entitled to do it when we signed our 1st catholic. He didnt go to another game, but was still a Rangers man till the day he died.’
Cheers Charles!!
Have to admit the last few days have been a blast, cant wait for the day to see moonbeams taken away in chains, or am I being unsensitive????
off subject.
looking for recommendations for a good plumber to do some work in our house.
i assume you can get my email address off Paul.
BJ Mac also has it for the CQN golf club
cheers
We live in the best of times …………………………………. pass the beer nuts and jelly and ice cream.
Ally Ally wherefore art thou Ally ?
Come oot and say something
Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan supports Kano 1000 on 13 June, 2012 at 12:33 said:
Fantastic post. So many interesting points. Pity, I don’t have the time right now to reply. Maybe later if your still around.
Managed to talk the wife into putting a pool table in the spare room- away to put it together- if I don’t do it now I’ll never do it ( I am after all the laziest person who has ever lived, in all probability).
Hail.Hail.
Debt,Debt,Debt.
With their first album dedicated to Sir David-
Shopped In,Slopped Out.
Courtesy of @james_melody
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bmcd48 on 13 June, 2012 at 12:51 said:
Ally Ally wherefore art thou Ally ?
Come oot and say something
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No it’s Jardine I would love to hear speak.
That absolute horrible bigot of a poor excuse for a man, wonder who he’ll be blaming everything on???
Movies..
Dead Man Waking Away
The Green Bile
The Long Good Administration
Shafted
HH
/Bishop B
James79 on 13 June, 2012 at 12:42 said:
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A lot of old buildings contain large amounts of Asbestos. Asbestos undisturbed will never be a problem, with its permability to water and more importantanly fire, it has great advantages.
Howeva, would that said asbestos still be secure when a good few thousand XXXL bloonoses do the booncy, booncy?????
Hollywood snow falling at ayebrokes?
No to Newclub
HH
2010 Never Again
From FF
I think tribute should be paid to “ayrger” the undercover Tim who outed himself and bored it right up the inmates on fascist fascist just after the HMRC bombshell went off.
He also posted a massive photo of the four horsemen of the apocalypse ala the Green Brigade which had the orcs foaming at the mouth….It was an absolute joy to behold.
It was about 20 mins before they finally chopped the thread. Respect!
Read on……..(the inserted asterix are mine for obvious reasons)
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Today, 22:27
ayrger
Trialist
Join Date: 01-09-2008
Posts: 142
Re: Hugely Personal Nature Of Todays Events …
of course they’ve gone ya shower of cheating filthy scum ba***rds, the day has finally came when Scotlands Shame have been shown up for the cheaters you are, no more hun filth, a cleaner Scotland so to speak, you deserve everything thats coming to you, as a taxpayer I would have been furious if HMRC accepted the CVA, but they did not,
G E T. I T. R I G H T. F U ** I N. U P. EACH AND EVERYONE OF YOU DIRTY HUN BA***RDS and suck, you are a joke figure, going on the tv to ‘represent your bigoted fanbase LOL, I really hope you end up a lonely bitter old man ya fat pr*ck.
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Posts: 146
Re: Hugely Personal Nature Of Todays Events …
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Originally Posted by skyblueranger
Precisely!
Btw I’d like to see us being imaginitive in the Newco name e.g.
Today, 22:40
ayrger
Trialist
Cheating ba***rd scum FC
The Inhuman League
All Sinners
Vanilla Scheiss
Dexy’s Midnight Flitters
(thumbsup)
Has Sally demanded to know the names and addresses of H, R, M and C yet?
Totally agree Palacio67
Defo NO to newco
Might be a new company but same old bigot customers!!!
Grandmaster Sash and The Furious Scum-CVA Don’t Do It.
So Chico Green has said ” Bury us and you bury Scottish football ”
What he should have said was ” Bury us and leave the grave unmarked ”
Arrogant scum!!!!
Hail hail
I wonder if it will be reported tomorrow what way celtic will vote in the (useless) CVA proposal?
The peepil have had there own way for so long that they believe they have the right to do and say what they like.The strange thing though is the amount of support they are getting from the public ( verbal ).The amount of money they have defrauded the public purse of is huge and that is money the Government have not had to spend on public services.They will not accept that there club has done anything wrong and the cannot understand why the rest of Scottish football is not rushing to help them.H.H.
The office is a great place to be today. Dons and Tims united in inflicting as much GIRFUY to the resident and strangely quiet office Huns. Not much work being completed with the amount of e mails and cross office banter all at the expense of the Huns. One of the more ‘die hard’ of the dark side is taking it really badly and looks as if he is about to burst into tears – his reward – a renewed bombardment of e mails and fake calls from Hector regarding unpaid taxes.
Now that they are dead do we refer to the supporters of that team as former Huns or the Hundead?
HH
As to Chic Young’s whereabouts…he was last seen heading to his bathroom carrying a large holdall.
No to Newclub.
Imatim
February?
Tribute Band:
The Cash My Father Whored
Len Brennan – Movies:
Who Framed Craig Whyte?
Last Tango In Govan
Unforgiven
Do The Wrong Thing
Secrets And Lies
Downfall
(thumbsup)
Anyone have any thoughts on what will pan out with shirt sponsership.Do Celtic pull out if Newco are included or do they stay in.Stick or twist.
The Evil Dead (thumbsup)