Yesterday evening STV revealed the real outcome of last week’s meeting between Stewart Regan, Neil Doncaster and David Longmuir as a proverbial gun was put to the head of Scottish Football League clubs.
In short, SPL chief executive, Neil Doncaster, no doubt with the support of some clubs but without the prior knowledge or support of Celtic, has threatened to kick 20 SFL clubs out of the senior game unless they acquiesce to his demand to parachute Sevco into the First Division.
The proposal was presented by SFL chief executive, David Longmuir, and appears to carry his endorsement.
Five scenarios are portrayed:
‘Rangers’ remaining in the SPL is dismissed as SPL clubs have confirmed they will vote no.
‘Rangers’ going to the third division is objected to on two grounds, financial (which is laboured a bit) and – wait for it – “The sporting opportunity is quashed for other clubs”.
Ponder that one for a moment, “The sporting opportunity is quashed for other clubs”.
‘Rangers’ to the First Division is presented as being “financially possible to recover from this scenario”.
‘Rangers’ to SPL2 is dismissed as apparently this would create “a bigger divide” than moving ‘Rangers’ to the First Division but not changing the name of the league. It is also noted that a legal challenge could bring paralysis.
Finally, they discuss ‘Rangers’ terminated or suspended, which apparently would lead to “complete financial meltdown”.
Then come the inducements to co-opt ‘Rangers’ into the First Division…. cash, your cash. Lots and lots of your cash, an “immediate cash benefit for all 30 clubs!” The exclamation mark is theirs!!
We could spend all day dissecting this disgraceful document but I’d like to focus on one immediate element:
‘Rangers’ terminated or suspended – complete financial meltdown.
So how do the SFA, SFL and the SPL rogues who participated in this shambles propose to ensure the SFA Independent Judicial Panel does not suspend ‘Rangers’ for subverting our game for over a decade for fielding illegally registered players for that period?
In short, it cannot. The independent judicial process will itself need to be subverted. As I suggested a few days ago, the judges will be told they are no longer wanted, we are back with the hand-selected SFA committee men.
The three most senior executives running our game have told you that one errant club is so powerful it cannot be subject to the rules and must not face the punishments which are due.
I’m not going to dispute the validity of this view (just now), but surely we deserve some honesty? If the Scottish Football Association and Scottish Premier League has accepted the ‘game’ is over, let’s hear from them. Where is the leadership from the SFA president on the collapse of the game under his watch? What are the chief executives saying to their paying customers?
Our sport cannot be subverted below radar.
You have been cheated and the rules will be changed to ensure there are no consequences. This is no longer a sport, it is a financial accommodation where a few executives are threatening to expel 20 clubs, most of whom have over a century history in the senior game, to allow Sevco to start two divisions higher than they otherwise would.
Celtic can have nothing to do with this.
The game here is dead. The leagues are set to collapse, most likely, no matter what happens now.
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Patrick27
I think we’re on the same ZhengZhi page. He would quite literally be like a new signing and this afternoon, if he doesn’t win, he would be putting a ball in a net. That’s got to be good news for us.
BSR, Patrick27- Cheers Bhoys, your word is good enough for me, just purchased an Ipad2 from John Lewis, will pick it up this afternoon.
(Mrs GS is going to go ape, I’ll also drop in the conversation how yesterday I managed to put my name in twice as passengers when booking an Easyjet flight to Alicante- cost me £70 to change correct it! Hung for a sheep and all that)
Today is a good day, season ticket arrived in the post!
Can’t wait.
Cosgrove slaughtering the proposal for the SFL clubs on radio hootsman
Paul 67,
Now the SFL 1 team are coming out against New Club, and it seems clear that New Club will not be in SFL 1, can you explain your recent CQN articles?
By accepting the MSM smoke and mirrors over this issue you helped obscure the issue. No New Club anywhere but SFL 3 (if they actually qualify for membership).
Would you care to update us?
Wasn`t yesterday the final day for Newco registering or something with the SFA? What happened?
JJ
Jungle Jim on 30 June, 2012 at 12:11 said:
application and relevant paperwork was submitted, sfa to peruse at their leisure
…and while I am posting. Why is it that when the MSN reports negative nonsense about us, we always dismiss it (quite rightly) but if it is something positive (Forster signing) , suddenly the MSM are to be believed? I will believe big Fraser has signed when the Official site says he has.
JJ
JJ- SFA tweeted last night they had recieved an application pack from Green. Didn’t know Daryll worked on a Friday night.
Kayal
Thanks. I was going to ask if the paperwork was all in order but, as it is the SFA, that won`t really matter,
JJ
Patrick27 thanks it confirms what Kit has said about the film.
HH
HT
Regarding last night’s videos, including video of IRA march in Liverpool.
A lot of the stuff on youtube just makes me very angry and very sad for the long suffering nationalist communities.
Just to rebalance the Liverpool thing, on the day of the last public services strike, the march in central Liverpool was headed up by an Irish marching which included someone in full paramilitary regalia. There was no little cabal from Everton Road to disrupt this peaceful march. The band, just in case I need to say this, was very well received by the people in the town, including the marchers.
Liverpool is not a hot bed of bigots although there are, evidently, a small group of active, horrible huns around.
HH
JJ – They submitted yesterday, I expect it will be incomplete and they’ll be given another week. Then it’ll be vague and the SFA will accept it anyway.
What’s not clear is the “fit and proper” test, after the CW debacle there was a recent ruling that previous owners, before handing over a club to new owners, must perform this test. In this case the newco has no previous owner, so expect the SFA to fudge it.
“irish marhing band”
HH
Absolutely no truth in the rumour that Green’s application has been placed in the bottom drawer of Jim Farry’s old desk.
words are not my thing apperantly!
HH
goldstar 10 Would that application pack state: I have a stadium and a trining ground but I can`t show you the title deeds and their might be some other problems there. Not to worry , though, I have five professional players and eight other lads. So, acceptec? Thank you, you know it makes sense.
JJ
training and accepted rather than trining and acceptec (though each of the wrong words gas a certain appeal!
When I was wee one of my favourite hobbies was cutting out pictures and stories from newspapers and magazines … Of course it was The story of Celtic I was collecting each season …articles carefully trimmed and gummed into a school jotter .,. None of yer fancy ring binders and plastic A4 sleeves palava
The last one was completed in double season 77 when I was fourteen … We sold King Kenny shortly afterwards for a pittance of 440k …I cried real tears that day Kenny epitomised for me what Celts were all about. I lived in dread of losing Danny to Liverpool too
I stopped making scrapbooks too and it was the end of an era for me in a way … Discovered serious music and the currants were doing trebles like there was no tomorrow.
I kept going to games on the Scarff bus and started a new hobby that involved comparing crowds … Back in those days the citizen and evening times had a sports edition available by the early evening of match day …0nly Saturday 3pm in those days. The data was available on a Saturday night and I got to counting.
The attendance at all senior games was always around 115k no matter who was playing where. It never fluctuated all that much unless there were postponements and Christmas variation averaged out over 6 wks … Usually
My point?
It occurred to me that there were floating fans always going to a game. If their favourites (loved that term) were away. fans would go and watch another team. There did seem to be some evidence to support that schoolboy theory.
Will there be 100k plus attending games in Scotland next season?
I think there will be a spike in an upward direction over the next few seasons.
I sense a lot of fans will dust down the old scarves and maybe take a nephew or neice to a game or two
We might see a new energy and anticipation of a new era
I might be wrong..often am :)
I hope not
HH
M
Bloody hell!
Edinburgh toaday, Armed forces day parade followed by a Gay pride parade follwed by an Orange order parade.
Only in Scotland
Parkheadcumsalford, 09:37
Explain to him yourself – he’s open to it – on twitter or alex.thomson@itn.co.uk
I still can not spell – i blame Catholic keyboards myself
JJ- Based on that application info they would be behind Spartans in the queue!
Partizan,
I, too, was a bit perplexed at Paul’s seemingly negative recent articles.
The only conclusion that I came to was that his tone was to serve as a warning as to what the authorities were angling for and for allinterestedparties to remain alert.
Judging by the response from other clubs to the machinations of the Save Sevco Alliance, the warnings are being heeded and acted upon.
oglach on 30 June, 2012 at 12:22 said:
Edinburgh toaday, Armed forces day parade followed by a Gay pride parade follwed by an Orange order parade.
Only in Scotland
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soldiers v rainbow warriors v toy bandsman.
gonny be some day oot that
P67
Naughty bhoy – telling The Sun you will miss Rangers…tutt tutt…
then again maybe you have been mis reported..?
;-)
http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football
Check out the poll in The Scotsman.
Those in authority keep underestimating the strength of feelings across the WHOLE of Scotland, not just us.
Warms the cockles of yer heart, so it does.
HH
Ogilvie Campbell will rubber stamp Chuckle Green’s application – of that, there can be no doubt.
Wouldn’t it be fun though, if ServCo went into admin soon after?
How would the SFA’s fit and proper requirements look after that?
Season ticket sales haven’t reached 4 figures yet…
Money’s too tight to mention, n’est-ce pas Charles?
Saint Stivs on 30 June, 2012 at 12:29 said:
oglach on 30 June, 2012 at 12:22 said:
Edinburgh toaday, Armed forces day parade followed by a Gay pride parade follwed by an Orange order parade.
Only in Scotland
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soldiers v rainbow warriors v toy bandsman.
gonny be some day oot that
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What one do you go to if you’re a gay orange soldier??
SchizophreniaCSC
estorilbhoy on 30 June, 2012 at 12:33 said:
‘What one do you go to if you’re a gay orange soldier??’
What, like King Billy himself?
ernie lynch on 30 June, 2012 at 12:38 said:
estorilbhoy on 30 June, 2012 at 12:33 said:
‘What one do you go to if you’re a gay orange soldier??’
What, like King Billy himself?
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LOL. So that’s where the term ” no pot pourri here” came from !!
bunburybhoy
I think by this point even the majority of Rangers fans would say they should be in the 3rd division.
MSM douglas alexander on Cosgrove radio hootsman lies and deception will they ever learn
Joining the SFA is one thing – assuming that the impartial SFA judge them to meet the criteria. The new Sevco still needs a league to play in.
Here’s how it should pan out.
On Wednesday the SPL clubs meet and refuse to pass the share of the former Rangers to Sevco. Instead they decide to invite Dundee (or Dunfermline) to join as Club 12.
The SFL Board will meet soon after. It will promote a club from Division 2 to Division 1 and one from Division 3 to Division 2. It will then give notice that it will seek applications for the vacant space in Division 3.
Sevco and any other non-league clubs that fancy it will apply. The SFL will assess each to see if they meet its membership criteria. A general meeting of SFL clubs will then be called with 14 days notice to vote on which one to accept into membership.
Now all of this would take several weeks at best. So it would be late July at the earliest before Sevco could be a member of a league. Doesn’t leave much time to recruit a few extra players, does it?
Would a reconstruction of the leagues as proposed by any quicker? Probably not given that general meetings of the SPL and SFL would be required to adopt all of the new rules involved.
But what if they fail to win either vote? Would there then be time for the procedure under the current rules as I’ve outlined to be carried out in time for the start of the season? It seems unlikely.
Within the next few days the powers that be need to decide if they can win an SFL vote for their gerrymandering. If they think that they would fail they need to drop the plan – or risk Sevco missing the start of the season entirely.
Cosgrove calling out the liar Doncaster.
courtesy call to Ligue 2 club….Le Havre
simply to thank them or their apparent fidelity to integrity etc
and also cos they gave me a right good laugh :)
feel free to email them too…
Centre Technique de St Laurent
2, route du Château
St Laurent de Brévedent
BP 90 – 76 700 Harfleur
Tel. 0 811 650 422 (prix d’un appel local)
accueil@hac-foot.com
Chers amis,
Je tiens à vous dire merci pour l’action récente au sujet du club de football l’ancien ici, à Glasgow, les Rangers. Ce club était responsable depuis des années de tricherie et de fraude. Les bonnes gens de l’Ecosse sont en colère contre le club qui actuellement encore dois de l’argent presque 150 millions d’euros aux créanciers pauvres. Tout ce en plus du racisme sectaire depuis de nombreuses années.
Et puis, enfin, je le répète ….. “MERCI”
TC, Glasgow
Douglas Alexander staunchly defending his heroes, he even said he feels for Doncaster as he has no real power and guys like Lawell do: a Times journalist or Follow Follow?
Hurting Hun.