St Pauli 1-0 Celtic

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By Alex Gordon.

A DREADFUL penalty-kick miss by Bahrudin Atajic condemned Ronny Deila to his first defeat as Celtic manager.

The Bosnian striker had the ideal opportunity to level the scores four minutes from time after substitute Paul McMullan had been downed in the box.

Unfortunately, Atajic blazed his spot-kick over the bar into the Hamburg crowd much to the annoyance of the new Hoops gaffer.

It was a largely experimental Celtic line-up with Deila taking no risks ahead of Wednesday’s Champions League qualifier against Legia Warsaw in the Polish capital.

Alas, appalling defending by Filip Twardzik gifted the Germans the winning goal before the interval.

The left-back made a mess of trying to control a long and hopeful punt into the Celtic penalty box. The ball broke clear and was immediately presented to Christopher Nothe who could hardly believe his good fortune.

Nothe struck his effort first time from eight yards and Craig Gordon had no chance as the low drive zipped past his right hand in the 39th minute.

Twardzik toiled in the opening 45 minutes and was also booked in the 33rd minute after a lunging tackle after once again giving the ball away with a slack pass.

Celtic started at whirlwind pace and had three excellent opportunities inside the opening 10 minutes.

Atajic fizzed in a low shot from just outside the box, but keeper Philipp Tschauner got down swiftly to hold the ball at his right hand post.

Five minutes later, Tony Watt, looking lively on the left wing, tried his luck from a tight angle.

His shot totally bamboozled Tschauner, but carried over the crossbar and out to safety.

Amido Balde should have got the game’s opening goal in the 10th minute when he was through on goal after some neat play outside the box.

However, the Portuguese Under-21 international lacked composure at the vital moment and allowed the keeper to block his hurried parting shot.

Gordon, making his second appearance for the Hoops, showed he was still rusty after being out for over two years with a slack goal-kick to Nir Biton.

The Israeli midfielder, captain for the day, was taken unawares and St Pauli broke forward, but made a mess of the opportunity.

Stuart Findlay, partnering Eoghan O’Connell in the middle of the inexperienced back four, was also sloppy with some wayward passes, but the Hoops escaped punishment.

The game was billed as a friendly – and the clubs have an affiliation – but the home players weren’t slow to put in some punishing challenges.

Skipper Soren Gonther was yellow-carded for a rugby tackle on McGeouch that wouldn’t have looked out of place in Celtic’s current home at Murrayfield.

Liam Henderson tried to set up Balde with a neat chip into the danger zone, but the ball carried over the giant frontman’s head.

It looked like being a stalemate at the interval until Twardzik’s lapse in concentration and control allowed St Pauli to snatch the lead.

Deila put on Lukasz Zaluska for Gordon at half-time and replaced the ineffective Balde with Paul McMullan.

Henderson brought the St Pauli keeper into action with a long-range free-kick in the 65th minute. The idea was good, but, unfortunately, the execution didn’t quite match the ambition.

Zaluska produced one memorable moment when he pushed a raging effort from Sebastian Mhyre over the crossbar 10 minutes from time.

Then came Atajic’s dreadful spot-kick blunder which was followed in the last minute by an effort from Watt which swept just wide of the target.

As an exercise, it was worthwhile and the Celtic youngsters will expect to do better when presented with the opportunity to impress the new manager.

CELTIC: Gordon (sub: Zaluska 46); Herron, Findlay, O’Connell, Twardzik; Biton, Henderson, McGeouch; Atajic, Balde (sub: McMullan 46) and Watt.

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  1. Captain Beefheart,

     

    as I say you labelled posters as bloodthirsty Marxists,

     

    I in my ignorance don’t know who is what,

     

    so why not point them out to me

  2. glendalystonsils on

    You would think that a Scottish team carrying the flag for Scotland in European football’s premier competition would have the backing of Scotland’s media.

     

    Not when the opposition manager is a former player of a certain former team, it seems.

  3. TSD my last word to you ever. You clearly support genocide. You aren’t worthy of any of time.

  4. Ritchie

     

    You are correct in that the trolls are on a mission replying to them only gives a hardon , they know the’ ve got the good guys hooked , only my opinion leave them to stew in their own bile , mate responding to them on keeps their fire lit

     

    Mon the hoops ;)))

  5. Captain Beefheart

     

     

     

    Anti Semetism is growing day by day.

     

    __________________________________________________________________

     

     

    That may or may not be the case. But the actions of the Israeli government are certainly not helping. This is slaughter pure and simple. It is fuelling future hatred.

  6. Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan supports Oscar Knox, MacKenzie Furniss and anyone else who fights Neuroblastoma on

    Afternoon.

     

     

    The Singing Detective: Can I ask where this comes from?

     

     

    “BRTH Never Got The ‘Glorious Marxist Revolution’ He Pined For…..

     

     

    In These Enchanted Sceptred Isles…

     

     

    But He Must Be Satisfied That We Now Have Old ‘Soviet-Style) Pravda….

     

     

    For OUR Media….

     

     

    And One Now Has To Look To The ‘Russia Today’ Channel,If One Seeks Objectivity….

     

     

    Alice-In-Wonderland Dystopia..”

     

     

    I am just curious, as to my knowledge I have never spoken to you but am interested to know how you know about my ideology or political stand is on any number of topics?

     

     

    My introduction to the John Snow piece clearly stated that I was not going into the rights and wrongs of the situation in Gaza, but did higlight that it was a good piece which made one think about what is happening there– hopefully with a view to each of us being just a little vocal and active in doing a very small part towards bringing such a situation to an end.

     

     

    Is that the Marxism you speak of perhaps?

     

     

    As I say just curious.

  7. TheOriginalSadiesBhoy on

    chavez

     

     

    12:36 on 27 July, 2014

     

    vespacide

     

     

    12:28 on 27 July, 2014

     

     

    I hear what you’re saying, mate. In the meantime the best option for a withdrawal seems to be a bloody nose for the IDF. The ceasefire calls are laughable – stop firing for a week but let Israel stay in Gaza to destroy Hamas infrastructure. Like they’ll accept that. That was the US’ contribution btw. The siege of Gaza has to end and they have to get Israel back to its 1967 borders….but nobody is forcing them to do that, so they’ll carry on stealing Palestinian land and murdering their people.

     

     

    ……………………………………………..

     

     

    The main priority should be stopping the bloodshed. Why should it be a priority to restore the pre 1967 borders? Israel was attacked in 1967 by a number of Arab who, if they had succeeded, would have wiped Israel off the face of the earth. Arab League countries have had 3 attempts at defeating Israel already. Why should Israel weaken itself?

  8. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    MARSPAPA

     

     

    The problem with ignoring them is that they won’t go away.

     

     

    They will continue to post and with no contrary opinion offered.

     

     

    Canny have that,mate.

  9. BIG-CUP-WINNERS on

    Captain Beefheart

     

    12:41 on

     

    27 July, 2014

     

    Anti Semetism is growing day by day. Naturally nobody on the ‘pro Palestine’ side will own up to it. The evidence is there though. ‘Pro Palestine’ rallies are full of hatred and racism.

     

     

    Have to agree in some part.

     

     

    A wee while back I had occasion to have first hand experience of such a protest. The protesters were trying to enter a building in Glasgow City centre, which contained some Israeli interest. If they gained entry, peaceful protest was not going to be the result.

     

     

    Vile Anti-Semitic shouts, barely suppressed violence towards the police keeping them out of the building. Several in that crowd wanted blood. I’d imagine it was something akin to the madness, violence and bigotry of a pogrom.

     

     

    Would not choose to be in their vicinity again.

  10. Captain Beefheart on

    Fritz,

     

     

    ‘May or may not.’ Are you denying that anti-Semetism is growing throughout Europe?

     

     

    Gordy,

     

     

    Certainly. Chavez and EL are two.

  11. big-cup-winners

     

     

    12:47 on 27 July, 2014

     

    Chavez

     

     

    So you think Ghandi and peaceful protests were/are the wrong things to do ?

     

     

    Your solution seems to be, kill some people to stop killing some other people.

     

    *********

     

    I’ll make this my last post on the situation as I’m conscious it’s taking up the blog.

     

     

    Realistically, whatever gets Israel to stop killing Palestinians and out of Gaza is a good thing. I’d prefer genuine, honest diplomacy but clearly there is no wish for that on the Israeli side. They want all of Palestine and they are doing it incrementally every year. It’s ethnic cleansing.

  12. My concern, is that while Celtic reserves are playing st Pauli , legia Warsaw are playing a competitive league game…. I just hope the Celtic first team are up to speed come midweek

  13. Captain Beefheart on

    Indeed big cup.

     

     

    Israel has overreacted but it is dealing with terrorists.

  14. Ellboy - I am Neil Lennon, YNWA. on

    You want to go back to 1947 or shall we go further?

     

     

    The one passage on the history of the Arab-Israeli conflict that the mainstream media will never print

     

     

    Lost in most all of the media’s coverage of the conflict in Gaza, and more broadly the battle between Israel and the Arab world is a candid discussion of the history of Israel’s founding and specifically what happened to the Arabs of Palestine at the time of its founding.

     

     

    Shmuel Katz, a South African native who emigrated to Israel in the 1930s, served in the Irgun and later held a seat in Israel’s First Knesset wrote at length about this very topic in his 1973 title “Battleground: Fact & Fantasy in Palestine.” And he asserts something that would enrage today’s mainstream media and undermine a crucial element to their narrative on the conflict: that the notion that Arabs were forcibly displaced from Palestine and made refugees is a farce.

     

     

    Katz makes his argument largely based upon the words of the Western media and Arab leaders themselves during the time of Israel’s founding. Below is the relevant passage:

     

     

    The Arabs are the only declared refugees who became refugees not by the action of their enemies or because of well-grounded fear of their enemies, but by the initiative of their own leaders. For nearly a generation, those leaders have willfully kept as many people as they possibly could in degenerating squalor, preventing their rehabilitation, and holding out to all of them the hope of return and of “vengeance” on the Jews of Israel, to whom they have transferred the blame for their plight.

     

     

    “The Arabs are the only declared refugees who became refugees..by the initiative of their own leaders”

     

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    The fabrication can probably most easily be seen in the simple circumstance that at the time the alleged cruel expulsion of Arabs by Zionists was in progress, it passed unnoticed. Foreign newspapermen who covered the war of 1948 on both sides did, indeed, write about the flight of the Arabs, but even those most hostile to the Jews saw nothing to suggest that it was not voluntary.

     

     

    In the three months during which the major part of the flight took place – April, May, and June 1948 – the London Times, at that time [openly] hostile to Zionism, published eleven leading articles on the situation in Palestine in addition to extensive news reports and articles. In none was there even a hint of the charge that the Zionists were, driving the Arabs from their homes.

     

     

    More interesting still, no Arab spokesman mentioned the subject. At the height of the flight, on April 27, Jamat Husseini, the Palestine Arabs’ chief representative at the United Nations, made a long political statement, which was not lacking in hostility toward the Zionists; he did not mention refugees. Three weeks later (while the flight was still in progress), the Secretary General of the Arab League, Azzam Pasha, made a fiercely worded political statement on Palestine; it contained not a word about refugees.

     

     

    The Arab refugees were not driven from Palestine by anyone. The vast majority left, whether of their own free will or at the orders or exhortations of their leaders, always with the same reassurance that their departure would help in the war against Israel. Attacks by Palestinian Arabs on the Jews had begun two days after the United Nations adopted its decision of November 29, 1947, to divide western Palestine into an Arab and a Jewish state. The seven neighboring Arab states Syria, Lebanon, Transjordan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, and Egypt then prepared to invade the country as soon as the birth of the infant State of Israel was announced.

     

     

    “The Arab refugees were not driven from Palestine by anyone”

     

     

    Their victory was certain, they claimed, but it would be speeded and made easier if the local Arab population got out of the way. The refugees would come back in the wake of the victorious Arab armies and not only recover their own property but also inherit the houses and farms of the vanquished and annihilated Jews. Between December 1, 1947, and May 15, 1948, the clash was largely between bands of local Arabs, aided by the disintegrating British authority, and the Jewish fighting organizations.

     

     

    The earliest voluntary refugees were understandably the wealthier Arabs of the towns, who made a comparatively leisurely departure in December 1947 and in early 1948. At that stage, departure had not yet been proclaimed as a policy or recognized as a potential propaganda weapon. The Jaffa newspaper Ash Shalab thus wrote on January 30, 1948:

     

     

    “The first group of our fifth column consists of those who abandon their houses and businesses and go to live elsewhere. . . . At the first sign of trouble they take to their heels to escape sharing the burden of struggle.”

     

     

    Another weekly, As-Sarih of Jaffa, used even more scathing terms on March 30, 1948, to accuse the inhabitants of Sheikh Munis and other villages in the neighborhood of Tel Aviv of “bringing down disgrace on us all” by “abandoning their villages.” On May 5, the Jerusalem correspondent of the London Times was reporting: “The Arab streets are curiously deserted and, ardently following the poor example of the more moneyed class there has been an exodus from Jerusalem too, though not to the same extent as in Jaffa and Haifa.

     

     

    As the local Arab offensive spread during the late winter and early spring of 1948, the Palestinian Arabs were urged to take to the hills, so as to leave the invading Arab armies unencumbered by a civilian population. Before the State of Israel had been formally declared – and while the British still ruled the country – over 200,000 Arabs left their homes in the coastal plain of Palestine.

     

     

    These exhortations came primarily from their own local leaders. Monsignor George Hakim, then Greek Catholic Bishop of Galilee, the leading Christian personality in Palestine for many years, told a Beirut newspaper in the summer of 1948, before the flight of Arabs

     

     

    “The refugees were confident that their absence would not last long, and that they would return within a week or two. Their leaders had promised them that the Arab armies would crush the ‘Zionist gangs’ very quickly and that there was no need for panic or fear of a long exile.” [Sada at Tanub, August 16, 1948]

     

     

    The exodus was indeed common knowledge. The London weekly Economist reported on October 2, 1948:

     

     

    “Of the 62,000 Arabs who formerly lived in Haifa not more than 5,000 or 6,000 remained. Various factors influenced their decision to seek safety in flight. There is but little doubt that the most potent of the factors were the announcements made over the air by the Higher Arab Executive, urging the Arabs to quit.. . . It was clearly intimated that those Arabs who remained in Haifa and accepted Jewish protection would be regarded as renegades.”

     

     

    And the Near East Arabic Broadcasting Station from Cyprus stated on April 3, 1949: “It must not be forgotten that the Arab Higher Committee encouraged the refugees’ flight from their homes in Jaffa, Haifa, and Jerusalem.”

     

     

    Even in retrospect, in an effort to describe the deliberateness of the flight, the leading Arab propagandist of the day, Edward Atiyah (then Secretary of the Arab League Office in London), reaffirmed the facts:

     

     

    “This wholesale exodus was due partly to the belief of the Arabs, encouraged by the boasting of an unrealistic Arab press and the irresponsible utterances of some of the Arab leaders that it could be only a matter of some weeks before the Jews were defeated by the armies of the Arab States and the Palestinian Arabs enabled to re-enter and retake possession of their country.”

     

     

    Kenneth Bilby, one of the Americans who covered Palestine for several weeks during the war of 1948, wrote soon afterwards on his experience and observations:

     

     

    “The Arab exodus, initially at least, was encouraged by many Arab leaders, such as Haj Amin el Husseini, the exiled pro-Nazi Mufti of Jerusalem, and by the Arab Higher Committee for Palestine. They viewed the first wave of Arab setbacks as merely transitory. Let the Palestine Arabs flee into neighboring countries. It would serve to arouse the other Arab peoples to greater effort, and when the Arab invasion struck, the Palestinians could return to their homes and be compensated with the property of Jews driven into the sea.” [New Star in the Near East (New York, 1950), pp. 30-31]

     

     

    “The Arab States encouraged the Palestine Arabs to leave their homes temporarily”

     

    Share:

     

    After the war, the Palestine Arab leaders did try to help people –including their own–to forget that it was they who had called for the exodus in the early spring of 1948. They now blamed the leaders of the invading Arab states themselves. These had added their voices to the exodus call, enough not until some weeks after the Palestine Arab fighter Committee had taken a stand. The war was not yet over when Emil Ghoury, Secretary of the Arab Higher Committee, the official leadership of the Palestinian Arabs, stated in an interview with a Beirut newspaper:

     

     

    I do not want to impugn anybody but only to help the refugees. The fact that there are these refugees is the direct consequence of the action of the Arab States in opposing Partition and the Jewish State. The Arab States agreed upon this policy unanimously and they must share in the solution of the problem. [Daily Telegraph, September 6, 1948]

     

     

    In retrospect, the Jordanian newspaper Falastin wrote on February 19, 1949:

     

     

    The Arab States encouraged the Palestine Arabs to leave their homes temporarily in order to be out of the way of the Arab invasion armies.

     

     

    The Secretary General of the Arab League, Azzam Pasha, assured the Arab peoples that the occupation of Palestine and of Tel Aviv would be as simple as a military promenade. . . . He pointed out that they were already on the frontiers and that all the millions the Jews had spent on land and economic development would be easy booty, for it would be a simple matter to throw Jews into the Mediterranean. . . Brotherly advice was given to the Arabs of Palestine to leave their land, homes, and property and to stay temporarily in neighboring fraternal states, lest the guns of the invading Arab armies mow them down.

     

     

    As late as 1952, the charge had the official stamp of the Arab Higher Committee. In a memorandum to the Arab League states, the Committee wrote:

     

     

    Some of the Arab leaders and their ministers in Arab capitals . . . declared that they welcomed the immigration of Palestinian Arabs into the Arab countries until they saved Palestine. Many of the Palestinian Arabs were misled by their declarations…. It was natural for those Palestinian Arabs who felt impelled to leave their country to take refuge in Arab lands . . . and to stay in such adjacent places in order to maintain contact with their country so that to return to it would be easy when, according to the promises of many of those responsible in the Arab countries (promises which were given wastefully), the time was ripe. Many were of the opinion that such an opportunity would come in the hours between sunset and sunrise.

     

     

    Most pointed of all was the comment of one of the refugees: “The Arab governments told us: Get out so that we can get in. So we got out, but they did not get in.”

  15. TSD, Is just a troll, Beefheart not far behind, an attention seeker and a total langer. They sometimes refer to me, I sometimes refer to them. I never respond directly to any of their posts and have no wish to have anything whatever to do with either of them. I don’t know whether they are Celtic Supporters or not. I’d say TSD isn’t, Beefheart probably is, (unfortunately). I love it when they are ignored but sometimes like today they win and set the agenda. I can’t stay on and read their pish, so I’m off oooot. To the good ghuys stay strong & Keep the Faith.

  16. captain beefheart

     

     

    13:04 on 27 July, 2014

     

    Fritz,

     

     

    ‘May or may not.’ Are you denying that anti-Semetism is growing throughout Europe?

     

     

    Gordy,

     

     

    Certainly. Chavez and EL are two.

     

    ********

     

    I haven’t mentioned religion at any point, chum…it doesn’t interest me. You’re using the tired anti-semitism card, just because I dare to criticise a slaughter.

  17. —-

     

     

    vespacide

     

    11:58 on 27 July, 2014

     

     

    —–

     

    —–

     

     

     

    “Peace will return just as soon as the

     

    new deals are signed and when the

     

    hawks feel comfortable with their

     

    positions. I also think that creating a

     

    nation based on your religion is

     

    idiotic and extreme…….”

     

     

    ~~~~~~~~

     

     

    Can I Take It That You Oppose The Imposition Of A ‘Worldwide Caliphate’?

     

     

     

    TSD Demands Shariah Law For Dear Ol’ Oireland………………….

     

     

    NOW..!!!!

     

     

    Let The Black Banner Of Jihad………

     

     

    Flutter Defiantly Over St.Stephen’s Green…!

     

     

    As The Muezzin Calls Ring Out….

     

     

    Over Brendan Behan’s Old Haunts…

     

     

    “The Prettiest Sound In The World”

     

    [ © Barrack Hussein Obama 2008]

  18. Its a sad day !!

     

    Shortly the blog won’t have to change format , why ? We are letting it fall apart right in front of our very own eyes , there are less and less of the posters on that attracted me in the first place , i’ve only been reading for maybe 3 years , maybe it has went through difficult times before i for one am dismayed by some of the infighting , anyhoo aff oot .

     

    Mon the hoops ;))

  19. Captain Beefheart,

     

    when you made the initial post that I referred to Chavez hadn’t posted on the blog,

     

    I assume there must be other bloodthirsty Marxists that you are thinking of

  20. leftclicktic on

    marspapa

     

    Stay strong sir

     

    Everyone knows who they are the problem arises when they are given oxygen.

     

     

    Here for the long haulCSC

  21. leftclicktic on

    Starry plough

     

    “whataboutery expresses” are like sheep ,none for a while then they all come along at once.:)))

     

    Hope you are well my friend, I had a good night in your old haunt in Hamilton on Friday night.

  22. DontPatmadug on

    Read a post on here not so long ago from Kitalba. It involved steel toe cap boots and a particular posters scrotum. Made me laugh so it did.

     

     

    ballkickerscsc

  23. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    This is an article from TIME,dated 17 July. Obviously ignored by the leaders from both sides

     

     

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    Israeli and Palestinian leaders should emulate the compassion of a grieving parent

     

     

    The current conflict between Israel and the Palestinian militant group Hamas, which controls the Gaza Strip, is the third major confrontation between the two sides since Hamas took control of the enclave in 2007. By some counts—it depends how you define major—it’s the fifth, or even the sixth. The fighting is usually ignited by smaller acts of violence. The battles tend to end with a cease-fire. The results rarely differ: a weakened Hamas, a lot of dead people—usually including children—and many ruined buildings.

     

     

    Almost as familiar as this round of fighting was the political failure that preceded it. In late April, U.S.-sponsored negotiations between Israel and the Palestinian Authority collapsed, with each side left blaming the other. Secretary of State John Kerry had made getting a deal a policy priority and spent a huge amount of time on the talks—and still they came to nothing.

     

     

    With such a legacy of violence, contemporary and historic, should the leaders of both sides finally accept that the conflict is unfixable and that Israelis will simply have to live under periodic rocket attack from Gaza, and Gazans will have to suffer occasional bombardment by Israel?

     

     

    While political fatigue is understandable, the leaders of both peoples would do well to listen to an Israeli-American woman named Rachel Fraenkel. Her 16-year-old son Naftali was among three teenagers who were abducted and killed in the West Bank. Israel has claimed that two members of Hamas were responsible. On July 2, the day after the boys’ funeral, a Palestinian teenager was seized off the streets of Jerusalem and murdered in what Israeli police say was a revenge attack by Israeli extremists. The killings contributed to the start of the Gaza war.

     

     

    This is what Fraenkel had to say to journalists about the killing of the Palestinian boy, 16-year-old Mohammed Abu Khdeir: “Even in the depth of the mourning of our son, it’s hard for me to describe how distressed we were over the outrage that happened in Jerusalem. The shedding of innocent blood is against morality, it’s against the Torah and Judaism, it’s against the basis of our life in this country … No mother or father should go through what we are going now [sic].”

     

     

    The death of a child in the conflict should prompt a period of self-examination and reflection by both sides, not a renewed round of violence. Fraenkel’s empathy for the parents of a child from the other side shows the sort of courage and humanity that Palestinian and Israeli leaders have failed to match.

     

     

    What’s needed is a political act that mirrors Fraenkel’s generosity and faith. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is in a greater position of strength than Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, and that gives him a greater opportunity to make the first move.

     

     

    No one—other than figures on the far right of Israeli politics—could reasonably argue that Netanyahu hasn’t consistently performed his duty as an uncompromising protector of Israel and its people. What he has yet to prove is that he can do a deal with the Palestinians that would ensure that no one else’s children are murdered in acts of political hatred. He needs a partner for peace—and it may well be that he will never find one in Hamas, whose charter calls for the destruction of Israel—but he has little option but to keep trying, even if it means talking with people he considers terrorists.

     

     

    He’s done it before. Twice, in 1997 and 1998, he reached an agreement with Yasser Arafat, then President of the Palestinian Authority and a man Netanyahu deeply disliked. The deals were modest, but they were important signals at the time that Netanyahu, then in his first period in office, was prepared to make concessions for the sake of peace.

     

     

    Netanyahu will lose no political support in Israel by refusing to talk with the new Palestinian government, formed in June with the support of Hamas, once this war is over. But he would show greater strength than ever in making a gesture—a unilateral freezing of the construction of Israeli settlements in the West Bank, for instance—that would act as a challenge to Abbas and Hamas. Abbas would then feel pressure to make a reciprocal gesture—perhaps a promise not to pursue Israel at the Inter­national Criminal Court—and we might begin to see a cycle of concessions rather than of violence. That would be the sort of leadership that children like Naftali Fraenkel and Mohammed Abu Khdeir have long deserved.

  24. eddieinkirkmichael on

    TheOriginalSadiesBhoy

     

     

    13:00

     

     

    Because by agreeing to go back to the 1967 borders( handing Golan Heights over to the UN) Israel would be showing the world that they are serious about peace. That wont happen though as we both know Israel doesn’t want peace, it’s want to drive the Palestinian people off their land.

     

     

    What’s happening is ethnic cleansing, why do some posters have difficulty accepting that?

  25. NegAnon2

     

     

    Did Ronny not himself say he would assess the squad before making any decision and I believe he said he had targets in mind, he also mentioned the idea of bringing in a winger so it would appear to me that maybe it’s in process, as usual I wait till the window is close before saying what is or what is not going on at Celtic but then again I guess I have been labeled a clappy happer.

     

     

    Have a good Sunday..

     

     

    Bring on The Legia!

  26. Ellboy etc,

     

    what do you make of the post at 12.48 by theboy etc,

     

    surely this aint any kind of solution

  27. leftclicktic on

    DontPatmadug

     

    Still made me laugh :)))))))))

     

     

    I hope Leigh Griffiths gets his chance up front(in the middle :)))) against Legia

  28. Captain Beefheart on

    Apologies Chavez.

     

     

    My post was not meant to insinuate that you were anti-Semetic.

     

     

    Cork,

     

     

    Jews and money.

  29. leftclicktic

     

     

    I’m good mate, family re-united and that is massive for me, enjoying a wee quiet Sunday.

     

     

    I’m sure some of my kin were in the same place as you Friday..

     

     

    A mighty Hail Hail to you and yours…

     

     

    Bring on The Legia..

  30. Ray Winstone's Big Disembodied Heid on

    I have just seen a player in green scoring against a team in blue at Aye Broke, blessing himself and being warmly applauded by the crowd.

  31. leftclicktic

     

     

    13:26 on 27 July, 2014

     

    I hope Leigh Griffiths gets his chance up front(in the middle :)))) against Legia

     

     

    So do I, but it’s not likely to happen. RD seems to think he’s better at attacking from the right wing and with Stokes fit it’ll be between him and Pukki for the striker role. On form I’d go with Pukki.

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  4. 14
  5. 15
  6. 16
  7. 17
  8. 18
  9. 19
  10. 20
  11. ...
  12. 39