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Strict liability: if football fans misbehave in a stadium, their club is held liable.

This is the Uefa way and is how most European national associations conduct their business.  Not in Scotland.  In Scotland there is a belief that some problems are so entrenched, it would be unfair to penalise clubs, who do whatever they can to discourage fans from, for example, setting off flares.  Here, a club which does everything it can to stop an errant act is not held liable.

It wouldn’t be an exaggeration to say some clubs fear strict liability.  Celtic cannot stop people setting off flares, they take steps to discourage it, so, the argument goes, why fine or otherwise punish Celtic?

It’s a cop out.  I’d hate to see points deducted, leagues decided, because a club was proxy for a strict liability offender, but everything else is on the table.  Clubs are poor at policing their own, there are in-built inhibitors which make doing so difficult.  Strict liability takes the issue out of their hands.  Stands will be shut, ticket allocations withdrawn, but almost certainly only once.

Flare carriers are the most difficult to police as they are the act of a small number of individuals, who are able to protect themselves [although not their club]by hiding in a crowd, but strict liability would end offensive chanting by thousands overnight.

For that, it’s worth it.

Only caught last night’s Motherwell game in highlights.  Newco looked like the Rangers I remember from the early 80s.  Despite being a mid-table mediocre outfit, Rangers were, and played like, a big team back then.  They attacked with all they had, but John Greig was often out-thought by the manager of a small club, who could organise a defence and break with purpose.

Football tactic students will be captivated by the second leg.  Do Newco go on the attack, and risk the same outcome, or do they learn to live within their limitations, hoping to tempt Motherwell beyond theirs?  The team which gets it wrong could lose by three goals.  It’s a good job Newco didn’t screw around with the ticket allocation, they’ll need that away end packed and energetic.

Thanks for all the feedback on the new issue of CQN Magazine, lots of great reading.

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  1. Jobo Baldie on

    gourockbhoy –

     

     

    check the blog in the morning (7.30 – 9.00) as I may yet be joining you…………

  2. blantyretim is praying for the Knox family on

    Jobo

     

    No alcohol all week so just my second, honest guv. 8))

  4. blantyretim is praying for the Knox family on

    Cowiebhoy

     

    Nothing worse than belting out the words only to notice they changed them

     

    And I’m after Vatican 2 8))

  7. Delaneys Dunky on

    BT

     

     

    Saint Mary’s.

     

    Saint Stephen’s Dalmuir is my parish.

     

    Saint Simon’s Partick and Saint Paul’s Whiteinch were my childhood parishes.

     

    Stella Maris Club Whiteinch had a wee chapel inbuilt. A prayer a pie and a pint! :)

  8. BGX on

    Hamiltontim.i aint gonna argue you on education..If You think the Scottish Gov Dont Spend enough, I Take Your word in it, all i can say, as ive said before, my Sons at St Mungos, He likes it, He’s Happy im Happy, ..I cant speak from a Teachers point of View, You Can…Respect…

  9. gourockbhoy on

    Jobo,

     

     

    Will try to but I am planning on leaving the house about 7.45 and will be driving so I may miss your weather update. Since the forecast is for sun first thing I will run in my green and white framed sunglasses so if you make it please come up and say hello ( yellow trainers too !)

     

    Good luck. I am aiming for about 25.30 or thereabouts.

  11. blantyretim is praying for the Knox family on

    Think I’ve hogged Cqn enough tonight so I’ll bid you all a fond farewell

     

    God bless and KTF

  12. Margaret McGill on

    Bring on the Hibs the hearts the ran….

     

    Bring on the Hibs ……

     

    Bring on hearts

  18. BGX on

    To All Socialist Labour Suporters..Go Watch Andy Burnham on Tonights C4 News…..Thats Why You Lost SCOTLAND..

  22. Delaneys Dunky on

    BGX

     

     

    Is there a politician you trust?

     

    John Smith and Tony Benn were the only two I ever trusted.

  24. What is the Stars on

    Blantyre

     

    Don’t go

     

    Labour in my humble opinion tried to rob the tories clothes to woo woo back upwardly mobile working class voters

     

    Big mistake

  27. Dallas Dallas where the heck is Dallas on

    Delaney’s you forgot corpus christi and an occasional visit to st ninian’s at knightswood cross.

     

     

    Just after judas j signed his lfe away, there was a visting priest at corpus christi, i think his name was father michael conroy.

     

     

    His sermon that day was very funny. He was going on About the media’s effect on the world and the headlines the papers in particular ran with to spread their word.

     

     

    He said People on holiday in spain would be reading their day late tabloid . The headline was maurice johnstone’s chiropidist says he mj kicks with both feet.

     

     

    The congregation were in stitches.

  29. blantyretim is praying for the Knox family on

    Wits

     

    i agree but im only back to say Bowie on BBC4

     

     

    night and god bless

     

     

    la lanterna for the BTs tomorrow night

  32. What is the Stars on

    Bgx

     

    I didn’t vote for Blair because I am not a UK citizen but I was taken in by his bullshit at first. …given him some credit for northern ireland peace process but then again it might have happened anyway. ….people were weary of it

  33. Margaret McGill on

    I remember once Tony Benn gave a presentation at the university of Cincinnati in 1990 or 1991 about American imperialist ambitions in the Middle East and why America was anti Iranian. All those years ago. I vaguely remember his wife may have come from there or something. Anyway he was re soundly booed of the stage by many. I introduced myself as he was leaving and of course being the gentleman he was he invited me and my Chinese friend to a posh restuarant in Cincinnati that evening.

     

    I loved that guy and he told me some secrets about Tam dalyell. He always admired us scots. Most of us.

  34. What is the Stars on

    Maggie

     

    I heard tony Benn speak once

     

    I was impressed. Struck me as sincere.

     

    Sincerity in politicians is rare

  36. The Spirit of Arthur Lee on

    Margaret McGill

     

     

    Did Tam Dalyell sink the General Belgrano

     

     

    Love

  37. Hamiltontim on

    bgx

     

     

    Not at all mate we’re all entitled to opinions and it’s just that education is obviously important to me.

     

     

    I voted Labour but only because in my eyes they were the best of a terrible lot.

  38. Margaret McGill on

    arthur lee

     

     

    23:32 on 29 May, 2015

     

     

    Only people from west lothian CSN answer that one:)

  42. Melbourne Mick on

    BMCUW / POGMATHONYAHUN

     

     

    Not been on the blog much, just scrolled back and seen

     

    your posts regarding that poor little girl.

     

    Our club day is tomorrow and i will ask Patmacoz and

     

    our committee if we could help in some way.

     

    H.H Mick

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