Strict liability: if football fans misbehave in a stadium, their club is held liable.
This is the Uefa way and is how most European national associations conduct their business. Not in Scotland. In Scotland there is a belief that some problems are so entrenched, it would be unfair to penalise clubs, who do whatever they can to discourage fans from, for example, setting off flares. Here, a club which does everything it can to stop an errant act is not held liable.
It wouldn’t be an exaggeration to say some clubs fear strict liability. Celtic cannot stop people setting off flares, they take steps to discourage it, so, the argument goes, why fine or otherwise punish Celtic?
It’s a cop out. I’d hate to see points deducted, leagues decided, because a club was proxy for a strict liability offender, but everything else is on the table. Clubs are poor at policing their own, there are in-built inhibitors which make doing so difficult. Strict liability takes the issue out of their hands. Stands will be shut, ticket allocations withdrawn, but almost certainly only once.
Flare carriers are the most difficult to police as they are the act of a small number of individuals, who are able to protect themselves [although not their club]by hiding in a crowd, but strict liability would end offensive chanting by thousands overnight.
For that, it’s worth it.
Only caught last night’s Motherwell game in highlights. Newco looked like the Rangers I remember from the early 80s. Despite being a mid-table mediocre outfit, Rangers were, and played like, a big team back then. They attacked with all they had, but John Greig was often out-thought by the manager of a small club, who could organise a defence and break with purpose.
Football tactic students will be captivated by the second leg. Do Newco go on the attack, and risk the same outcome, or do they learn to live within their limitations, hoping to tempt Motherwell beyond theirs? The team which gets it wrong could lose by three goals. It’s a good job Newco didn’t screw around with the ticket allocation, they’ll need that away end packed and energetic.
Thanks for all the feedback on the new issue of CQN Magazine, lots of great reading.
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RT
I try to stick to my socialist and catholic beliefs
We are closer than you know sir
Blantyretim….Or stand outside the tent Shouting ..A Want In, and If A Dont Get In…Fk You…Aye Thats Worked…
http://www.philmacgiollabhain.ie/the-offshore-loyal/
Bgx – time, talking, listening, accepting responsibility and understanding. From all parties invalved.
BT / Lennybhoy –
You 2 magnificent Bhoys are fully fledged Catholics. Me – I’m just practising ;-)
https://theclumpany.wordpress.com/
BT – I read your stuff! Keep er lit… Have to log off…
New Phil blog …………………
http://www.philmacgiollabhain.ie/are-monies-due-to-mr-barry-leach-and-mr-derek-llambias/
Anyone watch that Coronation St pish over the last two nights? Seriously badly performed at all levels. That should slow the chat down…
BGX @ 21:26,
In most of the UK they don’t hold “grudges” like is Celts.
Their was a huge propaganda war against Irish Republicanism and the IRA over many years. Lot of disinformation and ignorance. As the truth seeps out and division heels the English will move on, that’s what they do. Mr Adams etc will always be hate figures but the next generation of politicians will be more accepted.
Notice how the Conservatives have little to do with Unionism unless their votes are needed in The British Parliament.
Hail Hail
This I think it’s at the bottom of page 2.
Bgx
The Queen and Prince Charles have both shaken hands with the two most prominent leaders of Irish Republicanism. I’m saying that if the rest of England is as you describe it then maybe they should follow the example set by their Royal family.
Great news on Mighty Tim’s son.
On a day when Dr. Morrow’s report again seeks out the soft target of football fan behaviour while proposing nothing of worth on any other matter, I am afraid we will see more sons and grandsons lifted.
We have a group of fans who are very well behaved in comparison to most European countries but we have a collusive police force and political party determined to have us pretend that a mince law is necessary.
BT –
It was a 6-months contract. Cut it short a few weeks back when my mother was ill. Was offered an extension to come back but walked away.
BGX
“Blantyretim….Or stand outside the tent Shouting ..A Want In, and If A Dont Get In…Fk You…Aye Thats Worked…”
Certainly didn’t for Sevco, that’s for sure!
bgx
Disagree
Catholics in Scotland have come a long way
We no longer stand outside the tent but we shouldn’t ignore or forget our past to become part of what we want to end
We then become part of the problem, how many of our own do you hear blaming immigrants ?
I hear it daily
Roberttressel…Like being Married Man,…The only solution is Compromise, The ONLY question is to What extent…
jobo baldie
21:39 on 29 May, 2015
Nirvana…:)
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
Blantyretim…Weve came a long long way together, i will never forget that, but comes the time, comprise will get us there, Not Sell Out, Compromise…
Jobo
I will practice dill I die
BT
And that thyme will come for us all.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VTeWWa4J700
It’s the end of May and this was sung at my wedding to the fairest Mrs BT
Right I’m going to keep practising as well
Lennybhoy, that was supposed to be Fenian :-)
Jobo, really surprised no one commented on your wee video clip earlier in the week, from FTSFA
Hail Hail
Cowiebhoy
Ya roaster , you finally sent it to me
beatbhoy
21:23 on 29 May, 2015
Hrvatski Jim
He’s just said the Election for FIFA president had to go ahead today, despite all this week’s arrests, as the votes had already been paid for!
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He was actually quite good on HIGNFY
Give me a script and £2m per year and I would be good on it too.
https://video-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xat1/v/t42.1790-2/11288660_1039744892720939_1537243548_n.mp4?efg=eyJybHIiOjE5NTMsInJsYSI6NTEyfQ%3D%3D&rl=1953&vabr=1085&oh=b9ec77026ed949943e1574e417e842ac&oe=556A0298
A wee laugh from my nephew last night to lighten the mood
mighty tim supporting wee oscar
17:42 on 29 May, 2015
Delighted with your Sean’s news today mate
Weight off you & your families shoulders
See it Seems The Big Question on CQN is what is Compromise?..What Will You let Go Of, Coz Trust Me, Right or Wrong, Thats the Question the Scottish Gov are gonna ask of the Celtic support, and The Political arguement on Celtic Songs aint gonna Cut it, Its Gonna Be the Celtic Supports Choice…Its Coming…Be prepared…
blantyretim is praying for the Knox family
congrats BT. …you like me SHE is the boss in da hoose.
BT, I have honestly never heard that hymn before, and May being the month of Mary
Liked the Ave Maria which was at side of your link
Hail Hail
BGX
hello hello you fell oot billy bhoy ?
got 2 ra morra
Mrhenrik67 at 21:40 on 29 May, 2015 –
A most fantastic read, thank you for the link!
Fav Uncle…Text me them then..
Hrvatski Jim
Liked Merton’s reply to the question “Why has Eric Pickles been in the news this week?”
“Has he been given his own postcode?”.
Made me laugh, but not as much as I did when I saw last night’s result!
BT
21:51 on 29 May, 2015
Beautiful, one of my favourites.
cowiebhoy
Lol…I resemble that descriptor…:)
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
Cowiebhoy at 21:53 on 29 May, 2015 said…..
Jobo, really surprised no one commented on your wee video clip earlier in the week, from FTSFA
Hail Hail
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No worries, I’m perfectly happy that only about 10% of my posts receive any response at all.
Yies’ll no be laughing when I stop the ole weather reports……