Strict liability: if football fans misbehave in a stadium, their club is held liable.
This is the Uefa way and is how most European national associations conduct their business. Not in Scotland. In Scotland there is a belief that some problems are so entrenched, it would be unfair to penalise clubs, who do whatever they can to discourage fans from, for example, setting off flares. Here, a club which does everything it can to stop an errant act is not held liable.
It wouldn’t be an exaggeration to say some clubs fear strict liability. Celtic cannot stop people setting off flares, they take steps to discourage it, so, the argument goes, why fine or otherwise punish Celtic?
It’s a cop out. I’d hate to see points deducted, leagues decided, because a club was proxy for a strict liability offender, but everything else is on the table. Clubs are poor at policing their own, there are in-built inhibitors which make doing so difficult. Strict liability takes the issue out of their hands. Stands will be shut, ticket allocations withdrawn, but almost certainly only once.
Flare carriers are the most difficult to police as they are the act of a small number of individuals, who are able to protect themselves [although not their club]by hiding in a crowd, but strict liability would end offensive chanting by thousands overnight.
For that, it’s worth it.
Only caught last night’s Motherwell game in highlights. Newco looked like the Rangers I remember from the early 80s. Despite being a mid-table mediocre outfit, Rangers were, and played like, a big team back then. They attacked with all they had, but John Greig was often out-thought by the manager of a small club, who could organise a defence and break with purpose.
Football tactic students will be captivated by the second leg. Do Newco go on the attack, and risk the same outcome, or do they learn to live within their limitations, hoping to tempt Motherwell beyond theirs? The team which gets it wrong could lose by three goals. It’s a good job Newco didn’t screw around with the ticket allocation, they’ll need that away end packed and energetic.
Thanks for all the feedback on the new issue of CQN Magazine, lots of great reading.
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PS.
My humanist comment was in no way supporting anti catholic views. Do the central tour and hear the war stories for context.
UEFA team rankings
Celtic currently on a coefficient of 39.
This year we will drop 2. 2 points and next year 5.5 points. So we will lose 7.7 points over 2 years.
Over the past 2 years we have picked up 14 .4 points.
If we repeat this we will move up to a coefficient of about 46 .
Based on current points this would move us up from about 55th place to 45th in the rankings.
Our long standing rivals are still credited with 17 points under the name Glasgow Rangers and stand in 113th place. However they will lose 12.7 points this year and 2 points next year on the assumption that they do not qualify for Europe.
This will leave them with about 4 points which would leave them I about 209th position.
In the event that they qualified for the Champions league in 2 years time (stop sniggering) they would be unseeded at the 2nd qualifying round (when Scottish teams normally enter) and have to battle their way against the odds at every round.
Never mind..Lee McCullough will still be there for them. .
Bgx
I can’t but as someone involved in education I thought that a ridiculous comment given that education is devolved.
jobo baldie
Great call…
Ooft……..too much happenin’. Offski. Lol
Weefra HH praying to Wee Oscar.
Stivs
Pretty sure that one of the guys who does that tour is a massive Celtic supporter.
HT
P Lyons ?
blantyretim is praying for the Knox family
22:24 on 29 May, 2015
‘I just hope we aren’t being led up the path by SNP’
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What type of Government were you hoping for at the General Election?
Just to piss on a few guys chips, I still believe the Orcs will go through on Sunday. It is written, it has to be..
cigalasporfavor
Did you end up being sent to kincora school
SOAL
Aye.
a wee tune before bed
https://youtu.be/C8oyxrrEk58
See these roasters that have drawn up a report about sectarianism, what do they say about “cultural” walks up and down our streets spreading hatred. at the tax payers expense.
Ernie
Considering I voted for labour I think it was quite obvious
mighty tim supporting wee oscar
17:42 on 29 May, 2015
Bhoys and ghirls once again thank you for all your prayers and good wishes for my son Sean and my family regarding his court case and charges under the OB Act
Sean was found Not Guilty this afternoon. So thank you so much.
HH
KTF
Utlr
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Fantastic news,mate. Absolutely delighted.
I hope he puts it behind him and gets on with his life.
Hrvatski Jim
Good reassuring research
WeefratheTim
Good night sir
P lyons was the very bhoy.
A skinny more beardy more authentic billy connolly look a like.
Did a few red clydeside and Churchill was a bastard stories as well.
Lovedvit.
Jobo
I seem to recall that you take part in Park Runs. I have done 5 over the past couple of years and am planning on running at Strathclyde Park tomorrow. My wife and 2 children are planning on running also so I hope the rain stays off . The real target is the St Albans Half Marathon in 2 weeks time which is a bit of a challenge when you are almost 16 stone.
Gourockbhoy
Leftclicktic
I said that very thing at my meeting earlier.
leftie
Ditto. :-)))) KTF.
Weefra HH praying to Wee Oscar.
Leftclicktic
How much could be saved from Police Scotland budget, by stopping all these non sectarian or bigoted walks
More in Glasgow area alone than full of NI in a year
There was 4 I am aware of in Stirling last year, wtf
Give them all 1 day, in a big field somewhere out of the towns and cities, finished
How much help is calming down religious hatred as well ?
Let’s see how the super SNP act on this issue
Hail Hail
Gourockbhoy.
Are you des McColl ?
Ernie?
BT
Love the hymns to the Mother of God.
Were you ever in Stella Maris Whiteinch?
I’m enjoying Cqn tonight
Another bottle of red opened
Ernie ?
U don’t know me so don’t talk shit about me
gourockbhoy –
ordinarilly I’d be sugesting meeting up. However, when I ran on Tuesday night did i not go and fall, injuring my left shoulder. Tried a wee 15 minute run at lunchtime today but not that comfortable. So unlikely I’ll be at Strtathclyde tomorrow unfortunately. But I’m sure you’ll enjoy the run.
DD
St Stephens is my church of choice obviously. 8))
blantyretim is praying for the Knox family
22:44 on 29 May, 2015
‘Ernie
Considering I voted for labour I think it was quite obvious’
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Why then would you think there was ever any doubt that the SNP are leading people up the garden path?
Blantyretim
No nothing so grand for me.
Sent back to “Argyll and the Isles”Diocese.
Classic Schoolboy error though,fancying the teacher!!
BT.
I like that direct approach. Just about to go YouTube rebel.
God bless Pablo and vhman
St Stivs,
No but my daughter and son run with Morgan at Inverclyde AC and son played at First Touch for a couple of years. I am merely an incomer to Gourock hahah.
I was in the wee church in duntocher that day I met you in the barges
Cannae remember the name though
BT –
does ‘another’ translate as ‘my 2nd’ or is it (ahem) worse than that?
Cowie
Balado?
Bigotry in the Park!
Jobo,
Cheers for that. I did my last Parkrun in November but no excuses now we are in the off season.
Ernie
It obvious that labour have let us down by ignoring us and people have been led up the garden path by snp
It’s now up to them to deliver the impossible promises
Here’s on for you then
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLpIexoF-1A&list=RDKLpIexoF-1A