Strict liability: if football fans misbehave in a stadium, their club is held liable.
This is the Uefa way and is how most European national associations conduct their business. Not in Scotland. In Scotland there is a belief that some problems are so entrenched, it would be unfair to penalise clubs, who do whatever they can to discourage fans from, for example, setting off flares. Here, a club which does everything it can to stop an errant act is not held liable.
It wouldn’t be an exaggeration to say some clubs fear strict liability. Celtic cannot stop people setting off flares, they take steps to discourage it, so, the argument goes, why fine or otherwise punish Celtic?
It’s a cop out. I’d hate to see points deducted, leagues decided, because a club was proxy for a strict liability offender, but everything else is on the table. Clubs are poor at policing their own, there are in-built inhibitors which make doing so difficult. Strict liability takes the issue out of their hands. Stands will be shut, ticket allocations withdrawn, but almost certainly only once.
Flare carriers are the most difficult to police as they are the act of a small number of individuals, who are able to protect themselves [although not their club]by hiding in a crowd, but strict liability would end offensive chanting by thousands overnight.
For that, it’s worth it.
Only caught last night’s Motherwell game in highlights. Newco looked like the Rangers I remember from the early 80s. Despite being a mid-table mediocre outfit, Rangers were, and played like, a big team back then. They attacked with all they had, but John Greig was often out-thought by the manager of a small club, who could organise a defence and break with purpose.
Football tactic students will be captivated by the second leg. Do Newco go on the attack, and risk the same outcome, or do they learn to live within their limitations, hoping to tempt Motherwell beyond theirs? The team which gets it wrong could lose by three goals. It’s a good job Newco didn’t screw around with the ticket allocation, they’ll need that away end packed and energetic.
Thanks for all the feedback on the new issue of CQN Magazine, lots of great reading.
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BT
Muchas gracious mi amigo.
If she likes it, Jan would really appreciate a positive-constructive review on Amazon, they help big time with sales.
HH
blantyretim is praying for the knox family
Not ashamed to admit that I am Catholic and a practicing one at that, especially on CQN.
No one should ever have to suppress their Faith or their non-Faith if they do not believe.
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
Mighty Tim, I’ve not read back today. Congratulations to your son receiving justice from the courts. Hope you and your family have a stress free weekend.
Does the Mullet just put on a German WW2 helmet and snip round the edges?
Does he get that red nose from rubbin’ it against Dave Kings bahookie?
BT
You now get the message from our text fiend friend :-)
I am receiving your messages on the number I have for you
Much appreciate a wee bit of advice on it Bhud
Hail Hail
RT
The priest also spoke about him in his sermon last week and about how he said mass inspite of the military junta
Faith has overcome communism and fascism
BT
Keep that Faith.
blantyretim is praying for the knox family Are all the best people not?
TeT
I’ll pass the word on
Lennybhoy
Most on Cqn know what and who I am
I don’t get involved in the anti catholic stuff on Cqn
I pray for celtic 1st to sort them out
BT – ‘sell all you have and give it to the poor’
‘from each according to ability. To each according to need.’
I’ve never been able to see much difference.
not the evil empire
If you get a chance to speak to him tell him we said hello
blantyretim is praying for the knox family
Or in many cases supported the later.
Stephbhoy @ 18:36,
Apologies for the delay in getting back.
You have posted some good strong points and I’m pretty much in agreement with what you say, but the fact is on a couple of fundamental points I believe you are incorrect.
Irish “immigration” effected many towns and Cities in the UK but it is today a thing of the past. (Remember when we are talking about third/fourth generation as in my case Ireland was part of the UK).
As some have posted anti-Catholic rhetoric is more likely to come from the Humanist quarter than Protestants nowadays.
Catholic Schools flourish and are not only accepted, but are generally regarded as quality schools, throughout most of the UK.
So why is The West of Scotland different?
Don’t think the indigenous argument holds sway, apart from factually being wrong it’s dissipated in other regions.
Don’t think it’s the Nationalist thing either, my grandad fought in WW1 and had no truck with Irish Nationalism/republicanism. Yet was still subject to sectarianism.
Also throughout the UK, Irish Republicanism is hated.
With the Darwinian thing you have a point. In The West of Scotland what you are dealing with deep inbuilt racism that is imbedded in the psyche of many in the population. Many who should know better due to life experience and higher education still show these tendencies.
There is something rotten at the core of society that firstly needs to be admitted then educated out.
Well that’s my thought on the matter anyway.
Hail Hail
BT
Thanks & KTF
HH
Gary Lineker hosting Have I got News for You and getting laughs about FIFA corruption.
From a guy reportedly paid £2m per annum to host Match of the Day.
Glass Houses
Bt – it’s funny what some highlight about Romero. Continuing to say mass and live among his,people without protection was only do courageous because he had been denouncing the powerful and was a threat to power and wealth.
The people that had him killed wold have loved his mass had it come without pleas for the campesinos and the disappeared.
It’s people like Oscar and his great friend fr grande who keep alive my small morsel of faith.
Enough from.me. Goodnight brothers and sisters in Celtic.
RT
All wee need is a little bit of faith and hope and charity
Love comes with it
Celtic is all about my last post
Inspite of our leaders I keep Celtic close to my heart because I have faith
Hrvatski Jim
He’s just said the Election for FIFA president had to go ahead today, despite all this week’s arrests, as the votes had already been paid for!
So the idiots in Scotland who vandalise Catholic schools and churches with graffiti of a sectarian nature are not neds and bigots. They are Trotskyite Revolutionaries.
Aye right.
Chairbhoy..May i play Devils advocate…Irish Republicanism is Forever Viewed with Violence to the Majority of the UK…How do you fix that when the Majority of the Uk are Brit Nats ?…
Oh and apparently taking a big wage is now to be deemed as corruption.
Good evening friends
All still sharing the love?
tom
To whom are you posting?
Have you finished your Bells ?
bgx
21:26 on 29 May, 2015
Chairbhoy..May i play Devils advocate…Irish Republicanism is Forever Viewed with Violence to the Majority of the UK…How do you fix that when the Majority of the Uk are Brit Nats ?…
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Maybe they should follow the example of their queen and future king?
Virgin 428
East is east
Great movie
HH
blantyretim is praying for the knox family
21:12 on 29 May, 2015
Most on here know that I am as well. We are two peas in a pod.
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
Tom mclaughlin…Just wanna say, i find you one of the most reasonable posters on CQN.., seems you understand the concept of “if you wanna change the world, first thing you must change is yoursek
self…Times are changing, change or be forever stuck in history..
Cowiebhoy:
Fiend Text Fhriend glad to be of use to some good Ghuys.
And members of Roastersfc…:)
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
Hamiltontim…Sorry, i Dont Understand..
BT –
Captain Beefheart @20:47.
Yes. Finished the bottle in one sitting. I reckon my son drank about a third.
One of the major benefits of retirement. No work to worry about in the morning. Quiet evening tonight.
“from each according to his ability”
That’s Sevco off the hook then!
bgx
Or dilute what you are to become part of the establishment
BGX –
Thank you for your kind words.
BT- I don’t think we’re too far apart in our views. I admire sincere people of faith. I come from a family of them and I am thankful for that. I struggle with it now. I wish i didn’t. Peace.
Tom
Thought you started a wee job
Let me know when you are local and I’ll get cunnie to meet up