Strict liability: if football fans misbehave in a stadium, their club is held liable.
This is the Uefa way and is how most European national associations conduct their business. Not in Scotland. In Scotland there is a belief that some problems are so entrenched, it would be unfair to penalise clubs, who do whatever they can to discourage fans from, for example, setting off flares. Here, a club which does everything it can to stop an errant act is not held liable.
It wouldn’t be an exaggeration to say some clubs fear strict liability. Celtic cannot stop people setting off flares, they take steps to discourage it, so, the argument goes, why fine or otherwise punish Celtic?
It’s a cop out. I’d hate to see points deducted, leagues decided, because a club was proxy for a strict liability offender, but everything else is on the table. Clubs are poor at policing their own, there are in-built inhibitors which make doing so difficult. Strict liability takes the issue out of their hands. Stands will be shut, ticket allocations withdrawn, but almost certainly only once.
Flare carriers are the most difficult to police as they are the act of a small number of individuals, who are able to protect themselves [although not their club]by hiding in a crowd, but strict liability would end offensive chanting by thousands overnight.
For that, it’s worth it.
Only caught last night’s Motherwell game in highlights. Newco looked like the Rangers I remember from the early 80s. Despite being a mid-table mediocre outfit, Rangers were, and played like, a big team back then. They attacked with all they had, but John Greig was often out-thought by the manager of a small club, who could organise a defence and break with purpose.
Football tactic students will be captivated by the second leg. Do Newco go on the attack, and risk the same outcome, or do they learn to live within their limitations, hoping to tempt Motherwell beyond theirs? The team which gets it wrong could lose by three goals. It’s a good job Newco didn’t screw around with the ticket allocation, they’ll need that away end packed and energetic.
Thanks for all the feedback on the new issue of CQN Magazine, lots of great reading.
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Henke
18:50 on
29 May, 2015
Blatter returns.
Corruption stinks. I’m surprised at how pissed off I am that he’s been re-elected.
Baw bag.
Quonno called it right a couple of hours ago when he said that they were a bunch of parasites but uncle sepp had kept plenty of them happy.
i hope some twitter literate people in the world kick off threads on twitter like #boycottadidas and #boycottmcdonalds
its the only way to get rid of that bawbag from fifa
well until the sfa put a bid in for him anyway
Bhoylo83
Paving Stone outside and brick in the tunnel is what I did.
I also got replicas of both which was a really beautiful bonus.
If you speak with the club then they’ll arrange for your Dad to see the tunnel brick too.
The Finest Thing CSC
Listening on Clyde and I’m feeling their pain. F…ing brilliant.
Mark Guidi runs a close 2nd to Hugh Keevins.
The tic fan John was quite right to tell him to shut up
mighty tim supporting wee Oscar
I don’t know you (well, I don’t think I do!) but have been thinking of Sean, you and your family all day.
Absolutely delighted for you all with the outcome and having two boys of my own, I can imagine what you’ve been put through.
To you, Sean and your family, have a great night.
Away for a whisky now to celebrate. Any excuse normally does but this is definitely one of the better ones:-)
HH
NS
supersutton…
Just get bladdered on the back of a great and honest result for MT’s bhoy and all the family, an unnecessary worry had by a lovely family. HH
Love it when Guidi goes rage.Total twat.
TONYG
18:59 on
29 May, 2015
Listening on Clyde and I’m feeling their pain. F…ing brilliant.
Just why are you giving Clyde credibility by listening to it?
quonno…
Sometimes it’s good to switch off and p**h yourself laughing at their hurt ;))
Serious Fraud Office has stated that it is investigating documentation from Barclays , HSBC and Standard Chartered Bank which relates to the current FIFA corruption charges.
Back to the cricket – been a v g first day.
Just in case anyone thinks I’m taking the p…….
Septic Bladder has been re-elected…
Reports keep repeating that he isn’t implicated, but then again it is too early to say how it will play out.
Wonder what was/is in it for those who voted to keep him in place.
Dignity, Integrity, Responsibility, Accountability – four words that FIFA and the SFA have in common.
Neither organization has one of them.
Celtic Fans listen to clyde in the same way they watch hun games looking for ” honest mistakes”..Somewhat perverse in my opinion…Just my thoughts…
mighty tim supporting wee oscar
Great news,all the Best Sean
HH
I can see auld Sepp moving in with Assange soon
BGX
19:16 on
29 May, 2015
Celtic Fans listen to clyde in the same way they watch hun games looking for ” honest mistakes”..Somewhat perverse in my opinion
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Load of crap pal, i listen in because i’m abroad and also treat it as 2 hrs of comedy on radio.
I wouldn’t watch the hun if they were out my backdoor btw.
MT
Truth and justice beat a bastard law
C4….Cameron a Hero of Herr Henkel of the German Right….Well aint That a Suprise…
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mighty tim supporting wee oscar
17:42 on 29 May, 2015
Bhoys and ghirls once again thank you for all your prayers and good wishes for my son Sean and my family regarding his court case and charges under the OB Act
Sean was found Not Guilty this afternoon. So thank you so much.
HH
KTF
Utlr
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As the big Mhan is my witness I’ve never looked out for or prayed for a post like I’ve longed to read this one.
HH jamesgang
I couldn’t give a flying F— about FIFA, international football
How about dealing with and addressing our own SFA, you know that clean and perfect shower
Ah FTSFA
Hail Hail
Cowiebhoy
It’s times like this I’m glad you don’t drink 8))
Burgas Hoops…And i’d rather stick hoat knittin needles intae ma eyes than listen to clyde…I dont find it funny…each to their own…
Blinking central heating on in tyre
I blame Peter Lawell
bgx
Problem being you could still listen to it.
Anyone at FIFA been found guilty of anything yet ?
We all know what the FTSFA get up too, oh aye brush it under the carpet
Tellingly this was my Dad’s response when I shared with him the recent story of the Hamilton kid who’d gone through a similar travesty.
My dad’s father had been a humble country copper. Way back.
‘James
I don’t know how my old man could have remained a policeman in today’s force.
Dad’
I think ma Da gets more Fenian by the day.
HH jamesgang
BGX
each to their own…
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That’s what you should have said instead of trying to lump us all together.
It’s the best 2 hr comedy show on world radio imho.
Mighty Tim I am delighted at your news. This country is turning into a police state and so far the judiciary are holding back the tide. The act is a racist piece of legislation designed to criminalise us. Passed by a racist part who are running riot in Scotland.
Hamiltontim what was the conclusion with your SNP MSP?
Have you managed to read that report on sectarianism? This is also a racist report written to obscure the racism and cloud language around it. It will also be used the shore up the OB. The SNP are far too arrogant to overturn it.
Now I would go and see wee Mhairi Black about the act (I have already corresponded with my SNP MSP who basically said sectarianism was an old firm problem and the bill was having the desired effect). He is a numpty but wee Mhairi would problem say F off ha Fenian B.
Hope Submarine Sunday works out..
#stayingdown
BT
Appointment confirmed for Thurs, Dr Carter at Ross Hall ?
Know anything of him ?
Hail Hail
Oops, did you get that text on Wed ?
Burgas
Agree with you
That lot couldn’t lie straight in their beds and their”get the huns back “champagne has hit the buffers
Their riggling gives me strength
Anyway I don’t have the football channels
This is my only vice
Apart from cider,red wine and chicken satay and Phil
Bhoys and ghirls thank you so very much for being there. I’m at my nephews 21st now and Sean is off to Belfast as his fiancee has a fitting for her wedding dress in the morning then down to Dublin to see the foo fighters. He has just txt me to say he has passed all his 2nd year uni exams so a fantastic day all round. I will raise a glass or two to you all tonight. From my heart thank you.
HH
KTF
Utlr
MT
Great news
Hh
It’s great that Guidi and Daziel are promoting K.Boyd to start… I hope the mullet is listening.
Cos anyone who is anyone with a clue on football, knows that fat boy has got a maximum 15minutes football in his legs…. Go on Sevco, play him
HT&The Minx-great support to MT and his family,and the Accies boy too,well done HH
……Lets celebrate The Sole trader,the small buisness man,the innovator and finally of course , the entrepeneur,lets celebrate the spirit of enterprise…Who said that…A ..David Cameron..or B….potential leader of the ( dont laugh)..labour party..
Pep Guardiola has been given a warning by UEFA re wearing a t shirt with a political message at a Champions League Press Conference . Message was an appeal for justice in the case of a journalist killed in a road accident in Brazil.