Running late today…….
The Celtic Supporters Association are in their seventh decade so have seen it all before, albeit the matters the felt necessary to comment on today are uncommon in modern times. After their AGM yesterday they issued the following statement:
“We do not condone in any circumstances the letting off of smoke devices of any kind, the dangers to the health of our supporters should at all times be paramount in everybody’s thoughts. We have quite a number of members who are of the senior variety, and the dangers to anyone with respiratory problems are greatly increased by coming into contact with smoke.
We also do not condone the use of pyrotechnics of any kind; again the dangers to our own supporter’s health should be paramount at all times.
Finally, the deliberate damaging of property within any stadium is not acceptable, and leaves a stain on the great reputation of the Celtic Support. The seats that were broken at Fir Park was blatant vandalism; nothing else.”
I share Association president Joe O’Rourke’s hope that this is a watershed moment for the support, but most of us know at least one person who thrives on chaos and notoriety. We need as many strong voices to step forward as possible, someone with experience of putting genies back in bottles would be handy too.
Many thanks to those who participated in our Cinc Senti’s auction, which closed yesterday, raising £102 for charity. More on where the money will be going later in the week……..
“Yes those were the days, when you didn’t reach for your laptop, phone or tablet or whatever to see what you had missed in terms of things Celtic. Those days when, unless you were from east Kilbride, you had no idea what the eather was like there— and to be honest, you had absolutely no interest in finding out!….. Back to the days when you had never heard of Kojo and his way of speaking or writing, when no one had ever Brattbakkedinanager, would recognise a cash strapped scrofulous hillbilly outside Beverley Hills, and the only Battered Bunnet you knew of belonged to your Grandad.”
From ” To Everyone on Celtic Quick News– This is about what you have all done” — Page 6 of the 2014 CQN Annual
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Posted my thoughts circa 24 hours after Friday night’s events – my opinion has not changed despite; argument and counter-argument. A group of insidious individuals (in the away end) besmirched the good name of Celtic F.C.
The closing paragraph of my previous post: This alarming demonstration of wanton hooliganism, belligerence and lack of respect for my Club’s name (whoever the perpetrators are) has to be eradicated. What’s the answer? Maybe its time for us (the Support) to make a stand (as we’ve done in the past) and nip this in the bud, otherwise it will fester and we the Celtic Support will be the longterm losers.
Not really interested whether there was; one, twenty-seven or 127 seats damaged – it happened! One, two or 102 pyrotechnics, makes no difference how many – inappropriate, illegal and dangerous! Not interested that; stewards, police or MFC failed to; control, diffuse or act appropriately. Not in the least interested in the excuse – but others do it/ have done it!
Thanks to a bunch of Neds/ Nerds – the good name of the Celtic Support has been; castigated, pilloried and has given the MSM an absolute field-day to ‘front-page’ our Club’s embarrassment while Rome burns (or to put it in context – Govan/ Hampden and the cabal that runs them).
I’m off to Barcelona tomorrow – should I be bothered (or packing my case)? Meeting 3 top posters and the son of a CQN raconteur – think we all booked when it was about being there (before we worried about the results). Why is this relevant to my post about Friday night’s shameful events?
We travel without tickets. I asked the Agent for the flat we are staying in – ‘can you help us with 3 tickets? – No problem you Celtic Supporters are great people – we are happy to help – it’s a pleasure to have you visit the Camp Nou.’ Sorted!
Oldtim gets let down and I email the Agent – can you get me another 2? ‘No problem – I have a friend who will be glad to let you have his 2 tickets – we are happy that you will be sitting among the Barca fans – enjoy the game my friends!’
Never met the guy – but you know what? He kind of likes our Club and its Support and what we represent and most importantly how we behave/ interface when we travel away.
Not a first for me – have sat in the main stands at; Blackburn, Liverpool, Copenhagen – mixed and enjoyed the company of opposition support throughout Europe – 4 of us even sat in the North Bank at the Arsenal v Real Madrid CL ¼ finals.
Why the ramble/ rant? Well no matter where I have travelled – the good name of Celtic F.C. has always preceded me. I want that maintained – I expect many others are proud of our name and guard it jealously. Time to reclaim the good name of CFC back from the impostors!
H!H!
Labrssonse7en 19.36
I have just read your post.
It takes a great deal of courage to post such an admission and apology.
I accept your apology unreservedly .
Indeed you have humbled me.
If you still have my number it would be good to chat.
Alternatively Paul 67 can provide you with my email address.
I have just returned to work today after a week of illness.
As a result I am not going to Barcelona.
A coffee might be a better idea than a beer(:-).
Either way ,I will gladly share a bevy with you.
The next time you shave ,have a right good look at yourself in the mirror.
A man who has made a positive improvement ,will stare right back at you.
Hail! Hail!
TinyTim
the exiled tim-free the dam 5
21:25 on 9 December, 2013
Big Georges Fan Club
Not a bother, I replied to you about 9 ish this morning.
HH
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Hi. Just read that – thanks.
Someone, not sure who, posted asking how many thought the banner (BS & WW) was ‘bad news’ until there was a media furore about it.
At the game my mates and I all though something along the lines of “That’s clever, they can’t really give them a hard time for that”. We were wrong about that (though I never appreciated the UEFA rule about politics, or that there had been discussions with PL, which the GB confirmed).
I guess I just see it as two distinct issues.
HH
BGFC
hamiltontim is praying for oscar
21:23 on 9 December, 2013
Not true mate, J P Taylor has said on Twitter all tickets valid, letters going out this week to all involved with bans and relocation HH
justafan
21:43 on
9 December, 2013
I left U.K.in late`79 and missed the free fall which subsequently occurred.Sounds ,though,as if your assessment is correct.
Agreed re.Bob Kelly.Punctilious to a fault.:-)
Heart in the right place.
Kickinthenakas
My mates had nothing further from Celtic since the initial phone call.
Hopefully it’ll be resolved.
BIG-CUP-WINNERS
21:44 on
9 December, 2013
Smoke and mirrors Se7en analstools ………
Ha Ha with humour like that you can join the 6th year Asbo seekers when they set up their barracade outside the turnstiles…
TT well done, you are a gentleman.
With all the furore over Friday does anyone have a concern of us competing in a league outwifh Scotland?
Things are bad enough here with all we have to endure on and off the park but I believe they would be a whole lot worse down south or god forbid, in an Atlantic league (Amsterdam!). Better the devil you know!
I just sense times have changed with hooligans better organised and less tolerance being shown by authorities when it comes to crowd control.
As much as we have an outstanding reputation vitually everywhere we go, I’d much rather stay here, stay safe and win the league every year.
Music to the ears of the SFA and MSM – not!
TinyTim and Larssonse7en
On yersel, bhoys.
Tt
Nice one cyril ;).
Smokey
At least you managed a reply tonight. Everything about you is pretty loathsome.
Just been reading back. We are beginning to sound like huns.
It was infiltrators among the Celtic support who caused trouble at Fir Park.
The MSM are out to get us.
The Celtic board are out to get us.
Just listen to yourselves.
I supported the GB when Celtic decided to close section 111 and was delighted when the decision was reversed.
I personally had no problem with the banners at the Milan game, but knew it meant trouble because it was against the rules.
Now we have all this nonsense about it being everyone else’s fault. The MSM forced the fans to take flares and smoke bombs to Fir Park.
Peter Lawwell told them to smash up the seats.
In any case it shouldn’t have been reported. It should’ve been hushed up. The MSM are out to get us by reporting it.
It’s just not fair.
As I said . . . hunnish behaviour and hunnish defence of hunnish behaviour.
TT
Just knew you’d respond in that manner. Well done wee man :-)
Hamiltontim,
The Club wouldn’t be able to do that, since they have agreed to the fans going by taking their money……the Board would have to have evidence before they could ban anyone from going to the Barca game…… I don’t believe the information you have been given is accurate….
HT
My pal tweeted him I think and it’s now resolved.
Kikinthenakas
“Calm down dear it’s only a commercial” CSC :-)
Kikinthenakas
TBB
Perfectly so :-)
tom
Don’t think anyone on CQN sounds like a Hun. Apart from the Huns that is.
hamiltontim is praying for oscar
21:50 on 9 December, 2013
Is your mate in the GB ?
Just wanting to know if it’s just GB or the supporters on general HH
TinyTim
A fitting response to a genuine and humbling post. Respect to you.
littlehouseontheprairieCSC :-)
67heaven … i am neil lennon, supporting wee oscar..!!.. ibrox belongs to the creditors
21:56 on 9 December, 2013
Hamiltontim,
The Club wouldn’t be able to do that, since they have agreed to the fans going by taking their money……the Board would have to have evidence before they could ban anyone from going to the Barca game…… I don’t believe the information you have been given is accurate….
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The club have banned/suspended 128 people without evidence.
Until we meet again…
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
Hun Skelper
No he’s not a member mate.
The best thing the club could do was to act swiftly. The action they have taken is clever. It would appear a number of potential suspects have been identified and will now have to make a case for their ongoing admittance to Celtic games. Wrong place, wrong time for some of them, which is really unfortunate, but this action will likely get rid of some of the guilty suspects while sending the right message out to all fans. We cannot tolerate this behavior at Celtic games.
BIG-CUP-WINNERS
21:53 on
9 December, 2013
Smokey
At least you managed a reply tonight. Everything about you is pretty loathsome.
Well said .. will leave you to your hardman keyboard tactics… if only you had the courage of your convictions and stop going to C.P…. to support the “Brigade”
The term Hun with a Celtic scarf was never more approriate
Tiny Tim, graciously done.
Cap doffed.
Seriously?
“.scotland is fast returning to the worst days of sectarianism”
Would be interested in how you can come to that conclusion?
You honestly cannot truly believe what you have just written?
Also, do not give your season ticket up. That would be bonkers.
On a side issue, no one has been banned yet.
And this innocent till proven guilty. …
How do the police ever manage to arrest anyone?
Repeat…No one has been banned yet.
Hamiltontim…21.58
The club have suspended 128 persons on suspicions garnered from circumstantial evidence.
More evidence is sought to determine if suspensions shall stand or be recinded.
TT- Class.
hamiltontim is praying for oscar
21:59 on 9 December, 2013
Must just be seat numbers/tickets that have them suspended, there was plenty of guys on the walkways saying they couldn’t get to there seats as the place was packed I’ve a feeling a few innocent people are going to get unjust bans. Sad day
What time do the moonhowlin conspiracy theorists come on here?
I have a cracker involving uni type entryists who infiltrated the corporate, gold card carrying, moral majority (cough) of Celtic fans who defend image before substance…….
I know, I know, mental……………
TT and Larsson Se7en,
Splendid stuff from both of you.
I facilitate restorative conferences between victims and offenders in the criminal justice world and have just witnessed it in the civic realm online, with no preparation and no prompting.
Good on the pair of ye
TJ
Sometimes, I have to listen to fashion trends presentations. My understanding is very, very limited, but I quite like it when they tell you what colours will be big well in advance of the season in question (powdery pastels, especially pinks, blues and yellows for spring-summer 2015, the year after next; you heard it here first). Most of the time, these folks sound like they live on a different planet.
Their skill is being able to interpret the mood of the crowd before the crowd itself knows what it is. They can tell from what they see in a theatre audience, a building design, a popular song, a million things. They pick up messages: “some folks see things not everybody can see”, as Steve Earle puts it.
Anyway, all this business of the behaviour of football crowds taking a turn for the uglier. Winningemmell predicted it about four years ago. That bhoy is a prophet, even if it brings him no profit.
larssonse7en
I don’t think I’ve ever posted on here but was compelled to do so by you.
I read the ‘weekend’ comments and, without knowing you, thought it very harsh on those who you mentioned but noted the time of posts and put it down to a moon howling shift.
When I saw your earlier posting today I took my hat off to you. Heartfelt honesty and humility – truly inspiring.
Take heart from the wonderful comments the CQN family have given you (BRTH’s post referring to his ‘big boss’ especially) and understand that to never walk alone should bring great confidence.
I’ve always liked the quote (Camus, I think, and paraphrased); ‘even in the depth of winter, I finally found in me there was an invincible summer’.
KTF
praecepta
Quality.
See you the morra.
HH
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Big Georges Fan Club
It’s the hypocricy from uefa that bugs me, their stance on political issues only seems to cover the wee nations where there is no the money to be made.
Some hun decided that it would be a good idea to report us, fair enough, their right, but I find it astonishing that they would have been offended by it, no matter how loyal they are.
We live and learn, hopefully >}
HH
Hamiltontim is praying for Oscar
21:58 on
9 December, 2013
First up the club have already stated via the fans liaison officer that all those with valid tickets for Wednesday will get entry.
Second let’s assume that the 128 are known by their seat details allocated for the Motherwell game, otherwise why not suspend the whole section. When you receive a ticket for any game you take responsibility for that seat and the actions of whoever is in it. That’s the black and white, by the book version. The club knows that’s not how it always works out, especially for away games. That’s why those individuals are suspended and not immediately banned for life.
I’d not be even remotely surprised if they’re all all the game on Saturday.
Evening Gents
It’s a shame it’s come to this but we have an element in our support (mostly teens by the look of it) who think that by purchasing a ticket they can behave any way they want.
I’ve been pretty drunk at games before but it has never occured to me to break seats, intimidate those around me or play with matches.
Their total disregard for the reputation of our club and the the lack of respect shown for other supporters renders them isolated. We cannot accept this.
HH
Big cup,
I think what Tom means is all the feeble excuses used.
Some sound a bit like the old “the telly broke so we wrecked the place ” line that was trotted out by the currants in Manchester.