I know what you were thinking; Zenden, like Ljungberg, but older. We need experience in the squad but with Commons, Ledley, Samaras and McCourt all able to stake a claim for the left midfield position this is the last place we need to bring in a 35-year-old. Best of luck to the player but I’m pleased he has left Glasgow.
Today’s Sun report that a senior policeman witnessed a crime being committed but instead of doing what he is paid to do, he reported the incident to Uefa. You have to wonder about the veracity of the crime. The officer will do well to explain his actions if they amount to anything more than a few lines in a newspaper.
We are all partisan in this city but Justice is blind to such emotions and taxpayers (that’s you and me) do not sponsor lazy gossips.
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Rascar Capac says:
13 November, 2011 at 02:34
aye… mibbe should just leave im to Mags…
its a really borin one this time… if I read “two sides of the same coin” again, I’m gonnie have to go…. you’d think they’d be sendin some of their uber-huns in by now – if there is such a thing … feel quite insulted
ßjmac ® °¿° says:
13 November, 2011 at 02:40
Have you heard someone walking out a protestant church being called a hun b? have you heard a school being called a hun school or pupils wearing the uniform of such a school being called a hun b because of the school? have you heard the word hun being used outside of football to describe a protestant ? I would be interested if you have, now answer honestly, no cheating, you never answered the last one in full.
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Honestly ? Yes I have. I have worked in a non denominational school adjacent to a denominational school. I have heard it both ways. I currently do a lot of work in a denominational school and I hear that language , not often , but occasionally used about another local school.
Knowyourenemy
When other teams fans use the word hun towards you, what do you take it to mean?
(Its all there on youtube)
Rascar Capac says:
13 November, 2011 at 02:47
Knowyourenemy
When other teams fans use the word hun towards you, what do you take it to mean?
(Its all there on youtube)
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When your guys use it against all other teams in the SPL except Hibernian what do you take it to mean ?
knowyourenema,
your a drity stinking hun, go fourth and muiltiply.
see you in court, ha ha ha ha hun copulation simulation
A stupid man’s report can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears or reads into something he can understand.
That applies to you, Knowyourenemy.
Open your mind, try it, don’t be scared, you might even enjoy it.
Goodnight CQN
hh
bjmac
Rascar drop it..he’s an idiot..in fact could be Sally fishing for team talks.
Knowyourenemy
You answered very little 1 small part of a question.
In your honest opinion, would you generally say the word hun is used in Scotland to descibe protestants, and if so why would so many protestants (simply going by the religious demographics of our country) refer to rfc and their supporters as huns ?
hh
bjmac
This is tortuous… its no funny
Knowyourenemy…. look up inane… then go back, and tell yer buds that they need to send somebody amusing next time
Finally, slap yer maw for havin ye
Night all this time
Ooh, a question instead of an answer.
Ok.
We probably have a soft spot for Hibs, although I doubt they have for us. Anyway, a bit of a connection.
So we don’t call them huns.
The very fact that we might call Aberdeen or Dundee Utd fans huns would show that its just a word of insult, as the sectarian stuff is not really an issue there.
Hun can be swapped for Orc with absolutely no loss of meaning.
Ghuys, i think he’s kinda cute,
in a simpleton kinda way.
Can wee keep him?
Leave you with this that Lennybhoy posted earlier, careful now it contains the word hun;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnM0ju2Oij4&sns=fb
goodnight CQN
Canamalar
Lose respect by all means— I have no monopoly on being right about anything but before you do for God’s sake read what I write. I have never said that Celtic fans don’t have the right to do anything– what I did say about some songs is that I choose– and I advocate that others should similarly choose– not to sing them at Celtic park. That is my point of view– you clearly have another and good luck to you with it.
As for the Border incident and the loon who knew not what he was talking about. Let me put it this way. Both incidents left me with a deep feeling and outlook– so much so I raise them on here decades later. Those feelings, resentments, whatever don’t die and wither on the vine, they are part of my life’s experience and journey. I can’t be doing with fannies and 90 minute bigots of any colour.
I don’t know what it is like to live anywhere other than where I lived and I am damn sure– even from the border crossing incident alone— that where I lived was a hell of a lot better off than anywhere with a whole load of British soldiers and others running around to either “protect” me or keep me in my place.
Other than the border incident I know nothing of that– except for what I read and find out about. So for example, at 19 I wanted to come to Belfast and to see– to walk about and have a look and see how much bull I was getting over the TV in Scotland. I only had a few hours, but that was enough to let me see some things and be able to relay them to folk back home.
But I still couldn’t say what it is like to stay in the six counties on a day to day basis– and the point is that the same could be said for people from Glasgow, Hamilton, Paisley, Cork or Galway or Waterford or Coventry or wherever else you want to name.
All you could try and do here was stop people talking complete bollocks and ask then to look at the issues, even when those issues were distorted on the TV news or whatever. Go find out and don’t otherwise be a dick singing about stuff you know nothing about and can’t explain!
In between you just played football, drank, snogged, committed crimes against fashion, got lost, went missing and all the other stuff you are meant to do in your teens and early twenties.
Occasionally that included someone telling you that you were an arse either because they couldn’t stand the truth– or because they were right!!!!!!!!
Bjmac
13 November, 2011 at 03:04
Excellent! Fergus McCann I salute you!
Cash on Manny for the 8th round at 14/1, HH
BRTH,
It has been a pleasure to read your posts recently. You should be proud of the meaured arguments that you have offered on behalf of Celtic.
Like you I visited my family in Ulster in the 1980s and as a result of those experiences I can safely say that my experiences of growing up a Catholic in Scotland bore no resembalance to Catholics in the six counties at that time.
Great comeback by Alvarado
HE number of football banning orders (FBOs) issued in Scotland has soared, with new figures revealing a steep rise over the past six months.
Fifty orders were made between April and October this year – a period including football’s summer break – five more than in all of last year.
The figures also show that since the orders were introduced in September 2006 the bulk were granted by sheriffs in the Strathclyde region.
Rangers supporters top the league of shame (77), with twice as many bans as Celtic fans (36) in second. However, the appointment of football liaison prosecutors in the east and north of Scotland, following a pilot in the west, is expected to trigger a rise there.
Most orders in the past six months were for sectarian or violent offences, although there have also been the first related to internet use and six related to racial offences.
The increase in cases has raised questions about the need for new law on offensive behaviour at matches proposed by the Scottish Government.
Ministers want to introduce laws to criminalise songs, chants and banners that incite violence at matches.
However, MSP Graeme Pearson, a former police football match commander and member of Holyrood’s justice committee, said the rise in FBOs is further proof that police already have the powers to tackle the problem.
He said: “The biggest threat to a fan is not imprisonment, it is not being able to go and see his team. While everyone wants an end to the evils of sectarianism that is no excuse for poor legislation and there are huge concerns about the potential unintended negative consequences of the SNP’s plans. We must fully use the powers in place to deal with sectarianism before deciding whether there is need for further measures.”
Tory justice spokesman David McLetchie MSP said: “These statistics prove there are measures for dealing with sectarian behaviour, and call into question the need for the SNP’s slapdash legislation. We have called for more effective use of non-legislative measures and better enforcement of existing laws before rushing through a new bill.”
Like the proposed legislation, FBOs cover games, journeys to and from matches, and pubs where the games are being shown on TV. Police and prosecutors can only apply for an order where the offence was related to a specific match. Orders of up to ten years can apply where an offender is jailed, and five years otherwise. Orders for as little as three months have been set. Of 178 issued since the legislation was introduced, 166 have accompanied a criminal conviction, with the rest being the result of a civil case. FBOs have also been granted against fans of other Clydesdale Bank Premier League sides, including Aberdeen (15), Dundee (6), Hearts (5), Hibs (4) and Motherwell (5). Fans of teams in the Junior League have also been given banning orders, including Auchinleck Talbot (4).
Lyndsey Gray, FBO manager for the Association of Chief Police Officers in Scotland (Acpos), said: “When the legislation was introduced, in September 2006, there was a very slow uptake, particularly the number of banning orders police were requesting.
“It was the same when they were introduced in England and Wales, although there was a different emphasis there to stop English hooligans travelling abroad. Here it was part of the Scottish Executive’s action plan to target sectarianism.”
Regional differences are marked. There were 46 banning orders in Strathclyde between April and October, compared with two in Lothian and Borders and one in the Northern Constabulary area.
To try to persuade sheriffs of the value of FBOs, Acpos invited them to games to see how they are policed.
“There’s no question that numbers are going to rise,” said Gray. “Sheriffs now have a better understanding of how fgames are policed. This misconception that football just runs itself – they’ve had a behind-the-scenes view and that’s been a real eye opener.”
Prosecutors are determined to use powers such as FBOs to make matches safer. Lesley Thomson, area procurator fiscal for Glasgow, said: “Disorderly conduct and violence at matches will not be tolerated. Any conduct of this nature will be robustly investigated and perpetrators dealt with. If they plead or are found guilty, the Crown will advise the court of its power to impose FBOs.”
The Scottish Government insists FBOs and the proposed legislation are necessary.
A spokesman said: “It is not a question of either the Offensive Behaviour at Football Bill or FBOs – both do different things, and both are needed. We need the best laws to ensure police and courts have all the tools they need to most effectively tackle the offensive behaviour of a small minority poisoning our national game
“The Offensive Behaviour at Football Bill clarifies and strengthens existing laws – for example by providing our police with the tools to arrest those shaming Scotland abroad. We also need FBOs to be used effectively, and the increase reflects the hard work of the police and the courts.
“The bill has been drafted to ensure anyone convicted for offensive behaviour can also be subject to an FBO.”
That was a long session! Bedtime I think!!
Hail Hail
Estadio
But just before I go
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-15697373
“Rome wisnae burnt in a day” . Brilliant!
Hail Hail
Estadio
KYE, I’ve been at matches where the whole support has been singing “Go home ya Huns” at Hibs.
Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood
Morning…………………
C………Q…………N…………….
BifJoeFaaaaaaaaaaatheRigsWholivesinSpainInDaaaaaaaHouse
A bright and pleasant morning here in North Ayrshire.
Good morning Troops….
Disappointed we indulged the obvious muck-spreader last night.
HH.
Patria O Muerte says:
13 November, 2011 at 08:48
been lurkin instead of bloggin but a got one of those heads on this mornin that maybe that ol’ beatnick Estadio would be familiar with….
Comments??? probably not the best time of any day to place ‘em but here goes.. my first 11….
1. Philvis and his podiums??? wtf?????
2. UEFA probe ??? Sinister very sinister though if we play our cards right this could bring an end to the whole house of orange resistance… over to you Celtic,UEFA,lawyers and historians worldwide…..
3. Trialists? who started this nonsense??
4. Spongebhoy, my thoughts are with you and in your time of need may you look no further than the beauty in front of you that is your children. a vision of a way forward is a vision, and abley supported by your closest and perhaps a blog with a big heart, better days are ahead.
5. BRTH … Your posts these last few days have been even more special than before…. pleasure
6. Scott Brown ???? who realy cares???
7. Jimmy Johnstone
7. Yeh, I know but I just like the number, Henke
8 The Hat
9. GB- Your stance on poppies dont look so shallow now… if it ever was, its being condemned from all angles and I was in Buchanan St yesterday and there was a stall selling poppy merchandise!!!!! I mean come on… Anyway to you GB bhoys…. Come on feel the noise!!!
10. And my last ditty is for that ol’ beatnick poet Estadio…. And you do deserve the number 10, I hope one day to say i have met you in Shakeys…… Yeh I know, Sharkeys but when youve drank as much as I did last night its shakey this mornin…
11. To P67 and all you world wide contributors out there….. Its a pleasure bein part of this gang…..Hail Hail
Now, where did I leave my Rose wine……
Hail Hail
POM
Morning all. Bright and breezy here at the moment.
Morning all,
Dont know if you are familiar with Michael Corcoran (Limerick man). Irish tims will be.
He is our Peter Martin of the rugby radio world.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NazVO3WnK0Q
Just returned from local shop, disgusting front page on a down market Sunday rag, Celtic player targeted over personal family life
If i was a team-mate of our Irish striker, certain hacks would be getting the cold shoulder to say the least
Meanwhile this story ignored by the rags and the Police they got lower priorities
Glasgows spiral of debt and poverty
About 50,000 people are trapped in a spiral of debt and poverty, after borrowing from criminal loan sharks and legitimate financial companies charging sky-high interest rates, according to research. And nearly 1-10 people seeking financial help from a community bank set up to help tackle loan sharks have revealed they have forced to go without food
But!do they wear there poppy?
So glad the rags are losing sales, may there death be as quick as the NOTW who misses that
I see Motherwell-Born-Billionaire Craig Whyte has offered to drop his legal action against the BBC “if they apologise”
BBC have refused.
I think, in the immortal words of Robert S MacNarara, the “other guy just blinked”….
bjmac
I have instructed my lawyer to instigate proceedings against you for your scurrilous accusations against me at approximately 1:30am this morning on this blog.
Oh, and Olivia sends her love!
Hope you are well!
Okay, this is raw stuff at the moment. But these things are always sorted out. You threaten to sue, there’s a rapprochement and everything gets resolved. Why is this one any different?
I don’t see any way back for the BBC. No. They’re not going to apologise. As long as I’m here there will be no co-operation between Rangers and the BBC. They won’t get any interviews with players or management. As far as I’m concerned, even if somebody speaks to them off the record they’ll never work for Rangers again.
How on earth can you enforce that?
The BBC are completely, totally and utterly out. They’re not going to get away with it what they did. They’ll suffer the consequences.
ha ha ha ha
Is it appropriate not to list some FACTS
The BBC are back broadcasting at ibroke
No legal action will be taking place by Craig Whyte towards the BBC
‘Why this hun’s on the run
Robin McKie The Observer, Sunday 18 May 2003 12.21 BST
They say Tierra del Fuego is pleasant at the moment – as are Ulan Bator, Antarctica, Pitcairn Island, Mount Everest and the Galapagos archipelago. I know because I checked them all out last week.
Then I remembered hearing about Boulby, in Yorkshire: the home of Britain’s Underground Laboratory for Dark Matter Research (honestly). And I knew straight away where I would be heading this week – for the Boulby laboratory has been built in an old mine where delicate instruments, stored deep underground, monitor rare cosmic particles in an atmosphere of blessed silence and complete darkness.
For a hun – a Rangers fan – it is this week’s dream location, a sanctuary where there might actually be a chance of escaping the gibbering hordes of sombrero-hatted, chanting, triumphalist, banner-waving green-and-white bedecked Celtic-supporting lunatics who have been wrecking my life and driving me mad ever since their team limped past Boavista last month and slinked their way into the Uefa Cup final. Cash-strapped boffins could make a fortune for British science by renting out that mine to equally desperate Rangers fans, I reckon.
Certainly, putting several thousand feet of rock between ourselves and the tims – Celtic fans – would seem to be our only hope of surviving the next few days without developing serious stress or mental illness. For, if nothing else, it would at least mean there would be no more rhyming text messages such as, ‘You watching The Bill , while we’re in Seville’; no more emails suggesting that Rangers change their sponsors to Tampax because the club are going through a bad period; no more jokes about my team and three-pin plugs both being useless in Europe; and no more faxes filled with crap doggerel:
Tell all the huns that you know,
That we’re sorry they’re feeling so low
Cause we don’t mean to tease,
But it’s 90 degrees
And the San Miguel is starting to flow
It’s that kind of stuff – ‘You’ll be in chip shops, while we’re in our flip-flops’ – that makes me want to choke someone, though I admit I may be a bit biased. There’s not much love lost between a hun and a tim, after all.
At first, I didn’t care that much about the prospect of Celtic winning the Uefa Cup on Wednesday, for their victory would raise all Scottish teams’ rankings with European football’s governing body and make it easier for Rangers to qualify for Europe.
On the other hand, I was also aware that if Porto let us down, and Celtic fluked it, it would just trigger more outpourings of those ‘You’ll be cursing and minging, while we’re cheering and singing’ emails that keep making my computer crash. (One of my ‘correspondents’, a very amiable Celtic-supporting cabbie, is unfortunately called Martin O’Neill. Imagine a good Protestant like me finding a name like that in his inbox. It’s like getting a cheque from Saddam Hussein.)
But in the past few days, things have changed. I have begun to suffer increasingly frequent bouts of unsettling déjà vu and midnight terrors. I started going to Ibrox as a fledgling hun just as Jock Stein gave notice of his greatness at Parkhead in 1967 when he took his team of local lads to Lisbon and an historic European Cup final victory over Inter Milan. He followed this up by winning nine consecutive Scottish league titles, while inflicting a series of grievous drubbings of Rangers. Easily the worst was the 1969 Cup final when we were 3-0 down at half-time and so outplayed it still makes me flinch to think about it. My mate Hugh draped his arm round me as I sobbed on the terracing. ‘We’ll get three quick goals. It’ll be all right,’ he kept saying. Amazingly, I never hit him.
Since then, Rangers – under Graeme Souness and Walter Smith – have had their day, achieving their own nine-in-a-row series of titles. But that was then, this is now. Celtic have the real Martin O’Neill, and that ghastly, brilliant man has all the look of a latter-day Stein. And that is why I am so afraid. A European victory early in his reign at Celtic, just like Stein’s at Lisbon, could be a trigger for horrible things to come. Being a particle physicist in a Tierra del Fuegan mine would have a sudden, unexpected appeal.
Robin McKie, The Observer’s science editor, has supported Rangers since 1961.’
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2003/may/18/sport.uefa
(if you leave all the tax case and the cheatin out of this)*
rankers: willing to pay 4 or 5 million for a good striker (jelavic)
celtic: not willing to pay 4 million for a really really good striker, now real and barca want him (diawara)
costing us the league lads!
Philbhoy
Estadio and I held the inaugural meeting of the Continuity CFC yesterday in O’neills, where were ye? :)))
ItaliaBhoy says:
13 November, 2011 at 09:44
Arkell v Pressdram springs to mind.
For those not familiar with the case:
http://www.nasw.org/users/nbauman/arkell.htm
So, any decent football on anywhere to wile away a rather dull Sunday?
hamiltontim
I was working.
Aappointments only on a Saturday and the last one was 1:30, finishedabout 4.
Sorry I missed what sounds like a great day.
Maybe next time!