The curious significant of 1 June

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There’s something I’ve never been able to figure out for the last nine years.  When Gordon Strachan was announced as Celtic manager, on 1st June 2014, he apologised to the media for bumping their calls the previous week, as he was due to takeover on that date, and the announcement was embargoed until then.

No idea why the news was embargoed, but it was.  Tomorrow’s the 1st June.  If the same rules hold true now as when Gordon Strachan was appointed, there was little chance of an appointment in late May.

If you’re not going to the CQN 10-in-a-row Charity Golf day on 4 July the Sean’s Trust Charity Dinner is on the same night at the Fullarton Suits, Glasgow.  Sean’s Trust is run by the late St John Doyle’s partner, Linda.  If you’d like to attend let Lennybhoy know, lennybhoycfc@gmail.com

Let me know if you would like to attend the CQN Question and Answer evening at the Manor Club, Wimbledon, on 21 June, with a confirmed line-up of Lisbon Lion, John Hughes, and our own Brogan Rogan and Auldheid, celticquicknews@gmail.com

Visit the CQN Bookstore to get Tommy Gemmell to sign your personal copy of his tome, All the Best.

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  1. Tricoloured Ribbon on

    Macanbheatha,

     

    Of all people..

     

    Was ready to throw the towel in but I’ m sure I can spare another wee while..

     

    Happy birthday to your brother son.

  2. Tricoloured Ribbon on

    Bhoylo,

     

    Clydebank tae the core pal..

     

    Ye’ll need tae get a run into Tracy’s some Sunday night..

  3. Tricoloured Ribbon on

    Macanbheatha,

     

     

    Do you know Johnny ‘Busty’ Doherty fae Derry by any chance?

     

    Was eh…off the streets around the same time as you.

     

    Great pal of mine

  4. Tracys?

     

     

    I will where is that?

     

     

    I only know peadars and the gweedore and ye olde PO club for celtic matches.. Thems wer the days

     

     

    But ur on aye

  5. Tricoloured, macanbheatha

     

     

    Thank you for the links! :)

     

     

    HH from sunny California

  6. Tricoloured Ribbon on

    Bhoylo,

     

    Directly next door to Peadars pal

     

    On the corner.

     

    I’ll be in it tomorrow night.

     

    Or any other Sunday if I’m not working on the Monday

  7. Sounds good TCR i know where ye mean now… must meet up

     

     

    The way things are goin he night il still be sufferin come Thursday!

     

     

    HH!

  8. Tricoloured Ribbon on

    Bhoylo,

     

    No probs pal.

     

    We’ll sort it out in the coming weeks pal.

     

    Magical music sessions in all they pubs..

  9. Richie #TeamOscarForever on

    Sitting in a bar in Bourbon Street awaiting the NAFCSC Bhoys convention which kicks off Monday.

     

     

    Beats howlin’ at the moon :-)

  10. Richie

     

    Jealous as —- mate.

     

    I tried to put a last minute package together but it didn’t work out for me and the missus.

     

    There are 30 going down from the Toronto #1 CSC and they will be arriving from tomorrow onwards.

     

    Have a ball mate NOLA is the place to have a rerr terr – So I’m told.

     

    If you run into any of my mates, tell them Stevie says Hi.

     

    Watch the alligators mate…..about as safe as drinking in Harthill.

     

    Hail Hail

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    Donegaltim says:

     

    June 1, 2014 at 3:56 am

     

    5 1 Rate This

     

     

    The mess that is the club/company in Govan will carry on negatively affecting Scottish football until the day they are no longer there. There seems to be an anxiety to retain at all costs which to my mind, is nuts.

     

     

    We all enjoyed going to a favourite restaurant but if that restaurant cannot afford to pay its bills, it pays off debts to the best of their ability and closes up. WHY didn’t this happen to this football club? I think we know the answer which brings me back to my original statement.

     

     

    It is a blight and the best possible scenario would be to close up shop, sell what’s there and pay off creditors. This should have been done two years ago and with the loyal support, this cannot be questioned, build from the bottom with a name with connotations to the old but different, Govan cIty or something like that.

     

     

    The entity has been poison to Scottish football and the sooner it’s gone, the better for all concerned it will be. Start in the local park, free from spivs and charlatans. Build a new untainted model and Scottish football will no doubt welcome you with open arms. A little apprehensive possibly but in time this new entity will be another club and no doubt welcomed by most.

     

     

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    Succinctly put and absolutely 100% on.

     

     

    So long as Sevco or any version thereof exists in Scottish football, the pall of corruption will always be there.

     

    So long as the SFA are the Sevco Old Boys club, there too, the stench will remain.

  12. by ANDREW SMITH

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    ROY Keane is understood to have been offered the Celtic manager’s job and is expected to inform the club in the next couple of days whether or not he will accept the role.

     

     

     

    The timescale contains a natural cut-off point for the Republic of Ireland assistant manager, with Martin O’Neill’s team heading out to the United States for friendlies against Costa Rica and Portugal on Wednesday.

     

     

    The Republic played Italy at Craven Cottage last night but the fixture was overshadowed by O’Neill’s admission in midweek that Celtic majority shareholder Dermot Desmond had an “informal chat” over the vacancy created by Neil Lennon’s decision to leave Parkhead.

     

     

    Then on Friday, O’Neill hinted at the firming up of Desmond’s pursuit of Keane. Celtic’s largest shareholder and the former Manchester United midfielder have been described as friends and their relationship was considered central to the 42-year-old returning to football with his national team last December, two years on from the sacking that ended an unproductive 21-month spell in charge of Ipswich Town.

     

     

    “I would imagine that, in the next few days, the situation will resolve itself,” said O’Neill, in his pre-match press conference “Whether it goes into Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday… we are not actually leaving until Wednesday, so I would imagine the situation would be sorted by then.

     

     

    “Celtic are actively seeking a manager and they have a certain number of days to try and do something, because they will want a man in place for when they come back for pre-season [in late June].

     

     

    “There’s nothing definite yet, but I can imagine that before we travel to America something will have happened. He still has to be asked about the job. We would all be very, very sorry to see him go if, indeed, he does.”

     

     

    Keane played for Celtic in the second half of season 2005-06, helping the Parkhead club win the league championship and League Cup under Gordon Strachan. His first steps in management were at Sunderland, whom he guided to the Championship title the following season after taking over when they were bottom of the table.

  13. by ANDREW SMITH

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    THERE shouldn’t be too much for Roy Keane to mull over as he considers whether to become Celtic manager. That is the opinion of the man who brought him to the club as a player and is now one of his “team-mates” on television.

     

     

     

    Gordon Strachan looks upon his relationship with Keane as going beyond the professional. The pair are scheduled to travel to Brazil as members of ITV’s analyst circle, but what the Scotland manager does not do, and would never do, in being asked to comment on the possibility of Keane taking over at the Glasgow club, is attempt to tell the Irishman how he should make up his mind.

     

     

    Strachan managed Keane for the final six months of his career, when the then 34-year-old’s acrimonious departure from Manchester United in late 2005 brought him north to fulfil one of the items on his bucket list.

     

     

    “I have no idea whether or not he will be a good fit,” said Strachan. “Personally, I think that it is a great job for anybody to take. Whoever the man is who is lucky enough to be offered it, then I think that they should take it.

     

     

    “It’s a job where there is never a dull moment and, without doubt, it will make you a better manager. You’ll be working with great people as well. I’m not giving any specific individual advice – I just believe that it’s a terrific job.”

     

     

    In the absence of a league challenge; in requiring to work within Celtic’s business strategy that demands the development of players for selling that have often been scouted and recruited by others; and in consistently being expected to remain in on and off-field profit, the job clearly now has the potential to be a peculiarly unrewarding and draining experience – to which Neil Lennon would surely testify.

     

     

    Keane, though, is in a wholly different position from Lennon. He has had the other jobs that Lennon now covets. And, in respect of his spell with Ipswich Town from 2009 to 2011, if not his earlier stint leading Sunderland back to the top flight, ultimately failed to convince that his wondrous playing abilities were transferable to the coaching sphere.

     

     

    It is obvious what Celtic’s major shareholder Dermot Desmond sees in Keane, with whom he enjoys a level of friendship. This brooding, beguiling, brutal figure is a fascination magnet. Among the highest-profile figures to grace British football, he would make Celtic talked about and reported upon beyond these borders. A UK-wide profile is important to Desmond as he still hankers for Celtic moving beyond its Scottish base.

     

     

    Although many seem to think so, Keane would not be a great risk. It is impossible for a Celtic manager not to win the league, improbable that Celtic won’t do better in the domestic cups next season than last, and negotiating three qualifying rounds of the Champions League should not be as daunting as it is sometimes presented when two of these ties could quite easily be against part-time opponents.

     

     

    Granted though, you can question the fit of Keane and Celtic beyond these elements. The club need a coach who, above all, can foster camaraderie and self-improvement among the squad. Lennon excelled on both. However, there are questions over whether, with a managerial style seen as blunt and sergeant-major like, Keane can do the same.

     

     

    As was true of him as a player, if Keane was at the top of the management game he wouldn’t come within 100 miles of Celtic Park. He certainly has a feeling for the club, that is beyond argument, but he only washed up in Glasgow in January 2006 because he needed sanctuary at a time when his body was beginning to rebel against him and his mind was a state of flux.

     

     

    In terms of the burning desire to prove himself in frontline management, that has been patently reignited courtesy of coming under the wing of Martin O’Neill with the Republic these past six months, Celtic presents him with certain possibilities that no other club would offer him.

     

     

    Former Liverpool and Republic of Ireland midfielder Ronnie Whelan gives voice to the obvious lure that could outweigh any disincentives where the managerial position at Celtic is concerned. “You have to remember there’s not an awful lot to beat if you’re manager at Celtic,” he said. “They won the league this year again by a sackload of points. It’s the Champions League I’m sure he’d be looking at more than just managing Celtic day-to-day. But it’s Roy’s decision.”

     

     

    Whelan thinks Keane does have a point to prove. “I think a lot of managers like that, when they have a bad experience at club level, they want to get back into it again, they don’t want to be scarred by the experience of being sacked at Ipswich or wherever. I think Roy wants to again get back into day-to-day management of a club side. Hopefully he waits with Ireland a little bit longer.”

     

     

    That “longer” may well only be a couple of days.

  14. Mea Culpa

     

    Agreed! We will never get rid of the smell. We can whine and moan forever but it will only drive us to dementia. We have the power to humiliate them with our laughter.

     

    Soon there will be a mass exodus from the North of Ireland to Ayrshire. Then we will be able to wean them into a civilised society with the help of electro-shock treatment and lobotomies – failing that , a big fence around them and some firelighters…..see now I’m getting carried away.

     

    Perhaps we should just laugh at them.

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epmrPwwMXmw

     

    Teuchter

  15. And We’re Not Even In The Championship!!

     

     

    Celtic yesterday issued a statement thanking our wonderful fans for supporting the club by renewing season tickets for the coming season.

     

     

    They estimate the number will exceed 40,000. That, to be honest is an amazing number when you consider the media keep telling us that the Premiership is a ‘one horse race’ and that Celtic will win it without trying.

     

     

    Of course that kind of rhetoric is nothing but disgraceful and an insult to every other club in the league, not that it matters to a media that is driven to promote one new club at all costs.

     

     

    Their agenda is in full swing, only yesterday did I see a journo from Sevco’s media partner STV refer to Hibs, Hearts and Sevco as the ‘big 3′. Obviously forgetting if they were so big they’d be in the Premiership, not the Championship.

     

     

    Looks like we’ll just have to let them wallow in their self pity as we prepare for a new season with a new manager and Champions League qualifiers at least, to play for.

     

     

    It’s tough at the top…..

  16. Teuchter ár lá:

     

     

    Funny you should mention a mass exodus from the North to Ayrshire (and neighbouring estates), I have been thinking of the inevitability of that for some time.

  17. the unthank road on

    Good morning all from a very pleasant ML1

     

    Duties:- walk the dog , make the breakfast, don’t get upset when I read the dross in the Sunday papers, have a wee laugh or two at “the big three” . Thank you Lionsroar! That will be in my head all day!

     

    Peace and love

  18. changeFIFA ‏@changeFIFA · 4m

     

    FIFA, Football + Corruption.

     

     

    NY Times: Fixed Matches Cast Shadow Over World Cup

     

    per @declan_hill + Jeré Longman

     

     

    http://buff.ly/1txn6Kd

     

     

    The New York Times

     

     

     

    View this content on The New York Times’s website

     

     

    Fixed Matches Cast Shadow Over World Cup

     

     

    An investigative report by FIFA, obtained by The New York Times, found that a match-rigging syndicate and its referees conspired to fix global soccer exhibition matches and exploit them for betting…

     

     

    View on web tom_watson ‏@tom_watson · 6m

     

    And thanks to @Colvinius for pointing out a New York Times story on matching fixing in football. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27652181 … Will it ever end?

  19. macanbheatha Oscar Abú

     

     

    Happy birthday to your brother.Hope he has a great day.

     

    The song is one of my favourites and Luke Kelly does it proud.

     

    HH from Nigeria

  20. Keane the man, not the myth

     

     

    Stewart Fisher

     

    Sports Writer

     

    Sunday 1 June 2014

     

    EVERYTHING you think you know might just be wrong.

     

     

    Roy Keane on Republic of Ireland duty with Martin O’Neill Photograph: PA

     

    Roy Keane on Republic of Ireland duty with Martin O’Neill Photograph: PA

     

    It is popular to view Roy Keane, the manager, through the prism of his playing days, to see him as a firebrand who ruled dressing rooms at Sunderland and Ipswich Town with fear – at least until he alienated them – and displayed a vicious, vindictive streak against rival managers, media and often the world in general.

     

     

    The personal testimony of Neill Collins, who came under Keane’s sphere of influence some eight years ago at the Stadium of Light, would seem to refute these perceptions. Collins is 30 now, and playing for last season’s FA Cup semi-finalists Sheffield United, but at that stage he was in his early 20s, and trying to establish exactly where he would find a reliable source of first team-football.

     

     

    The season was 2006/07, the year Keane would guide Sunderland to the Championship title, albeit from the most inauspicious of positions around the turn of the year. Collins, a Manchester United fan, was thrilled about the arrival at his club of a man whom he had idolised as a youngster. Collins’ boyhood United jerseys back in his native Troon testified to that, emblazoned as they are with “Keane 16” emblazoned on them.

     

     

    All seemed well when he scored in the Irishman’s first match in charge. A change of emphasis at training, however, was the first indication that chances, particularly in Collins’ favoured central defensive berth, were soon to dry up. In came a job lot of signings, some of them from Celtic, such as Stan Varga, Ross Wallace and Liam Miller. Suddenly Collins was either being used at right-back, or not at all.

     

     

    Something had to give. After much swithering about the potential career suicide of what he was about to do, he plucked up the courage to knock on the manager’s door. As perhaps the first player ever to do so in the Irishman’s nascent managerial career, he feared the worst.

     

     

    Instead, he found that Keane could hardly have been more receptive. Collins’ concerns were understood, but he was still young. He was advised to bide his time.

     

     

    “I was the first player at the club to go in to see him,” Collins said. “I remember sitting out in the hall, thinking should I do it or not, but at the end of the day I knew I had to. Imagine what that was like for a young boy. But in the end I think he respected me for having the courage to go in and see him.

     

     

    “He made me feel a million dollars and that is probably a side of him people don’t really see. He made me want to play for him, even though people might not think it because I left shortly afterwards. That was nothing to do with his managerial ability, more a decision about where I thought I would be able to get games.”

     

     

    That was also only half of the story. Collins remained a young man in a hurry, particularly come October, when Wolves came in with an offer of first-team football. This time the discussion was more fraught: not only did he have to persuade Keane to let him leave, it wasn’t just Wolves he was joining, it was Mick McCarthy.

     

     

    Collins understandably feared he would become collateral damage following the ugly public quarrel between the two men in Saipan in May 2002 which led to Keane walking out on the Republic of Ireland on the eve of the World Cup.

     

     

    “I was going back to re-join Mick and I did think at the time there was a chance the move wouldn’t go through, just because of that,” Collins said. “Their relationship was obviously difficult, but they put their differences to one side and it is a mark of both men that they could do that.

     

     

    “He [Keane] could have stopped the move going through, maybe forced me to go somewhere else, but he didn’t. I will always be grateful for that. At the same time, with hindsight I maybe should have stayed and seen how it went.”

     

     

    Keane’s time at Sunderland ended abruptly, amid poor results and friction with owner Ellis Short and chief executive Niall Quinn, but not only did he win the Championship, he kept them in the top flight for a season, even if Ipswich was rather more of a struggle.

     

     

    “People just expect because of how good a player he was, that he can just go in there and be a huge success but football doesn’t always work out that way,” Collins said. “But I’ve always felt I would be very surprised if he didn’t get back into management at some point. People like him are just driven.”

  21. Teuchter ár lá:

     

     

    I don’t know if it’ll happen in my life time but I think the day is not too far distant that the six will become two (Down and Antrim) and after a while, when the British Ship Building Industry consolidates to compete against the more productive competition by favouring the Tyne, the Clyde and perhaps the Avon, then it will possibly shrink to none.

     

     

    That’s my Nostradamus post for the day.

  22. Teuchter ár lá:

     

     

    Meant to also say, good for Argentina, good for Ireland, whilst maybe not so good for some in Scotland.

  23. the unthank road

     

    07:27 on

     

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    Good morning to you

     

     

    I only copy and paste some rag stories out of interest, not to wind anyone up

     

     

    Peace and Love indeed………………………… stealing SOAL lines

  24. On O’Neill & Strachan in their current jobs.

     

     

    There is a good time and a bad time to be a countries manager.

     

    I think now is a good time to be Scotland manager with the number of players playing in the top English league increasing however MON is not so fortunate with Ireland.

     

     

    I think Ireland will struggle in the ECQ group but I expect Scotland to go from strength to strength.

  25. Doc:

     

     

    I went past this earlier:

     

     

    As Sipsini alluded to, they will dissipate and wither, they won’t follow a club that can’t get anywhere near us in footballing terms.

     

     

    Mate, nothing lasts for ever, and I honestly believe they will be back, their international collective hubris will ensure it. A club under the Red Hand will be back but I’m not so sure the significance of the flag will endure.

     

     

    They were doing a reasonable job of keeping up the numbers up until this season book season. And many say they are fools for paying the spivs and they are of course correct, but with hindsight were the ‘Biscuit Tin Board’ the original spivs?

  26. Kit

     

    No sure about refits and repairs, but H&W have not built a boat for over 10 years.

     

    I suspect that the UK government has been throwing (Scotland’s ?) money into a black hole to reward the peepils “loyalty”.

     

    Not even sure there will be much room for the radicals anywhere.

     

    The rest can become good Irishmen.

     

    Argentina; of course meaning a safe haven for people of a similar viewpoint after WW2.

     

    But I really like the way you look WAY doon the road :-)

     

    HH

  27. the unthank road on

    Lionsroar

     

    OOps , didn’t mean to seal SOAL’s lines, but , if I had a choice, then it’s not a bad line to steal. I get quite “Down” on here from time to time with the vicious attacks on fellow tims. Just don’t see the need for it, so peace and love all round! cept in Govan. LOL

  28. Not much Peace and Love over in Govan………………… War rumbles on

     

     

     

    UoF Statement on ST renewals

     

    “It has now been over six weeks since season tickets for the 2014/15 season went on sale and over two weeks since the renewal deadline. We urge chief executive Graham Wallace and the board to come clean about how many season tickets they have sold and how much cleared income in the bank these sales have provided. If and when the cash figure reaches £1.5M, the board, as they announced to the Stock Exchange when the loans were negotiated, must immediately pay Sandy Easdale £500,000 and George Letham £1M. For the avoidance of doubt, if these loans have not yet been repaid, it means that the board have not yet secured £1.5m of season ticket money or they have broken the repayment terms of these loans.

     

     

    Instead of the normal announcement on season ticket sales following the renewal deadline there has been silence – aside from briefings to journalists from PR men that the board claim to have sacked. Instead of these briefings we would ask the board to make a clear statement of the number of fans who have renewed to the AIM market in order that supporters and shareholders can rely on the accuracy of the figure given.

     

     

    This is a matter of grave concern for shareholders and supporters alike and we also believe it must be something which is being monitored by auditors, Deloitte. When we met Graham Wallace on 14th May, he once again reiterated that there was “no possibility of administration”. We would therefore ask him to make it clear how the club plans to operate at what we believe is a greatly reduced level of season ticket sales. Will the board now be accessing the £5m of equity finance which they claimed was available at “the push of a button”? Will they be moving forward the rights issue which they claimed all but one of the major investors had promised they would support fully?

     

     

    How do the board plan to strengthen the playing squad ahead of what will be an extremely competitive Championship next season? What exactly is the medium to long term plan for the club and have the board made any tangible progress on the plans they outlined in their business review? Has a new head scout been appointed?

     

     

    It is time for Graham Wallace to come clean and spell out the facts. If this has to be done in opposition to other members of the board, or indeed any other shareholder with disproportionate influence in boardroom, who is not a member of the plc board, then so be it.”

  29. Teuchter ár lá:

     

     

    Aye, maybe Rockall will one day become the Gibraltar of the north and they can march to their hearts content. They’d best be careful though, all those seagulls ensure slippery slopes.

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