The SPL deadline for clubs to provide information on improper registration of players was six weeks ago today but the league has yet to report findings to clubs, while the chief executive rallies support to allow a Newco access to the league.
Time has expired on this policy of non-disclosure until it’s too late.
If the SPL chief executive ever tells us that Rangers fielded improperly registered players between 2000 and 2012, resulting in years of 3-0 defeats being awarded, there will be an enormous amount of anger, not only among supporters, but in boardrooms across the country, as they ponder money which was rightfully theirs but which went to Rangers – perhaps including Rangers prize money for finishing second this season.
We have made an attempt to quantify this money. Some of the losses were easier to calculate than others. For example, it was easy to calculate that when Rangers won the title in 2009 with improperly registered players, earning automatic qualification to the Champions League group stage, they denied Celtic £15m European earnings, plus £340k SPL prize money. Other losses are less clear, specifically when a club was denied a place in a qualifying round for the Champions League or Uefa Cup, which they may or may not have progressed from.
We have established three figures for each club in the SPL during the season just finished, to cover the period from 2000 to 2012:
Minimum loss:
The absolute minimum each club was denied from European and SPL prize money as a result of Rangers finishing above them with ineligible players.
Weighted loss:
The figure based on Scottish clubs gaining entry to Champions League/Europa League (Uefa Cup) group stages from 20% of their qualifying campaigns (which is slightly less than trend).
Maximum loss:
The maximum a club could have achieved if it qualified for the European group stage it was denied entry to.
Out estimates take no account of the subsequent effect money has on future years. For example, If Celtic earned an additional £15m from entering the Champions League group stage in 2009-10 their league challenge for that season would have been £15m stronger, and Rangers £15m weaker, potentially resulting in consequences in future years.
This multiplier effect would have benefited Celtic but it would be likely to have a greater effect on other clubs, some of whom would be denied the enormous percentage increase in budget automatic qualification to European group stages would have brought.
Hearts finished immediately behind Celtic and Rangers more often than any other club over the period and suffer the greatest potential losses, even more so than Celtic. Hibernian, Aberdeen, Dundee United and Motherwell also suffered significant losses.
Several clubs got nowhere near European football over the period, and some of the 11 spent only a few years in the SPL but each club lost over £1m.
Figures for each club are:
Hearts
Maximum: £72.3m
Weighted: £16.3m
Minimum: £6.2m
Celtic
Maximum: £46.7m
Weighted: £21.9m
Minimum: £17.4m
Hibernian
Maximum: £34.8m
Weighted: £8.4m
Minimum: £3.6m
Aberdeen
Maximum: £21.1m
Weighted: £5.5m
Minimum: £2.7m
Dundee United
Maximum: £20.8m
Weighted: £5.2m
Minimum: £2.4m
Motherwell
Maximum: £16.7m
Weighted: £4.4m
Minimum: £2.1m
Kilmarnock
Maximum: £5.1m
Weighted: £1.9m
Minimum: £1.3m
Dunfermline
Maximum: £3.4m
Weighted: £1.8m
Minimum: £1.5m
Inverness
Maximum: £1.3m
Weighted: £1.3m
Minimum: £1.3m
St Johnstone
Maximum: £1.1m
Weighted: £1.1m
Minimum: £1.1m
St Mirren
Maximum: £1.1m
Weighted: £1.1m
Minimum: £1.1m
In the event Rangers fielded ineligible players during the period under consideration, which everyone apart from Neil Doncaster knows, and even he will be unable to deny next week, we know the following:
Rangers received a minimum of £40.9m which should have gone to the 11 other clubs, assuming each club lost all their European group stage qualifying campaigns. This calculation does not include earnings from clubs now in the Scottish Football League, such as Hamilton Accies or Dundee.
If Scottish clubs progressed to the group stages of European competition on only 20% of their qualifying campaigns the loss would be £69.0m.
The figure for total potential losses if clubs successfully progressed to every European group stage is, as the figure for 100% failure, more illustrative than likely, but the maximum cost to the 11 SPL clubs is £224.6m.
Results will be changed, trophies can and will, be re-awarded, but these are the harsh financial consequences clubs, their lawyers and supporters, will consider when the facts are presented to them next week. The SPL executive has had six weeks to consider if there is sufficient evidence to commence disciplinary proceedings; they have failed to do so. They have failed you and every other football supporter in the land, while shamelessly pursuing an accommodation for the errant club BEFORE REVEALING THE FACTS TO YOU.
Time will be up soon, Mr Doncaster. You’ve had your chance but you have convinced no one. The people who really matter in this entire debacle are those who buy tickets for Celtic Park, Pittodrie, Easter Road, Tynecastle, Tannadice, Fir Park and the rest, they will hear the truth and read these figures. You have failed them.
You can read our calculations here. European income figures were sources from Uefa data.
Celtic’s disadvantage deepened when their winger John Doyle was sent off ten minutes into the second half for kicking the scorer, but there was an equaliser from Aitken, who was especially suited to a night of such fervour and force. Never bashful, Aitken was stimulated by the challenge of being in an outnumbered line-up.
From Celtic: A Biography in Nine Lives, by Kevin McCarra.
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My understanding is that Brown is a Hibs fan and has been since he went there as a kid, and I’m sure he’s meant to be at the game tomorrow.
HT
had words a few times with balloons in the north stand re the Greek God
coathanger shoulders come in handy sometimes :¬))
traded, traded, bliddy bliddy bliddy blinker.
scored that day against Berwick or whoever at Tynecastle
Pierre
DJBEE
he`s Norwegian ..Vidar
I remember Sir Fergus’s term but don;t remember who?
Rollercoaster your a B……!
Well done Factus!
I am still afraid that the Huns will escape justice and be in SPL next season with their cheating down the years written off
…..and the final Newnewquizco (all pts transfer from oldnewquizco) leaderboard without penalty (oldnewco still keeps all the double pts allocation though!)
Factus 8 46
Saint Stivs 40
jc2 31
Celtic Soul Brother 26
The Spirit of Arthur Lee 23
midfield maestro 22
St MichaelBhoys2 21
Tommy Twists Tommy Turns 21
Art of War 20.5
Dolph 14
Jobo Baldie 11
DJBEE 9
hamiltontim 6
tarrant 4
A storming finish….Factus 8. Saint Stivs unlucky mate, the last round was a right Regi for you :-)
Congrats to everbody that took part. The quiz is now walking away for it’s summer break but may be back during the European Championships
HH
CRC
CRC
Thanks as always
Factus 8
Bravo Bravo
Thanks for the quiz CRC, congrats to Factus on the win.
Beyonce
Well done to Factus and cheers to CRC.
T4
wel done factus.
congrats.
saint stivs was seen departing an open top bus at the coronation park with a carboard placard saying “do you know a hansome hun” and heading for the ocean bar.
good fun though , cheers.
i do think the last round is dead unfair.
its no as if you get double point for beating rangers in the last game of the season.
these bloody grapes are sour an aw
CRC-Great quiz and really sneaky Hoops Am I
Thanks also for all your hard work throughout this momentous season!
.Well done Factus 8-unlucky St. Stivs.
good to see bouncy x2 get beat beat in the last at Hamilton,
a lot of hun money making it 2nd fav.
Roon yeez
A wee bit harsh on Saint Stivs!
Sorry mate, you played a blinder every round too.
Thanks CRC for the quiz once again, hugely enjoyable as always.
It would appear Kevin Bridges knows, his ‘history’
Cheers roller I aim to put myself through a good pre season schedule and be ready for the start of the new season.
Beer n fags …. well
Here’s to a hunfree start.
I think I can give them up easily.
furkinell, how did regi get a game for Holland?
Maybe it was on this performance…
http://youtu.be/EByZ39tJTLk
10 great minutes, but 7:44 in is my favourite ever showboating moment from a Celtic player, even more so than Lubo arse-trapping the ball.
When Barnes’ team – and there was no Larsson, or Berkovic, or Scheidt(!) that day – got it right, they really got it right. Unfortunately the converse also applied.
CRC – Totally enjoyed that tonight (even if i think the last question had too many points :-0). Thanks for taking the time to do what you do. Appreciated. A lot.
Enjoy your break but i think you should do a Euro version to satisfy our lust for a wee challenge.
HH
PS . Is my badge in the post?
sat down last night to watch programme called CHEATERS . a thought ya beauty all aboot the h*ns.
naw , guy n a bird caught in a motor way the guys wife.whit !
HH
Ron Bacardi
i was of that opinion until recently
however their scheming cheating mendacity is too deep for even the compliant SPL/SFA to obfuscate on
they`re doomed …Green is a carpetbagger who`ll soon realise that there is nothing but strife in buying them and he`ll slope away soon enough
even if he remains they`re stuffed …no Euro cash , no player purchases, EBT big case on the horizon together with associated sanctions ….
the huns won`t support a losing team Newco or not
the end is nigh
right onto strange occurances from the twilight zone.
anyone sitting in the Celtic end on sunday witness the great balloon massacre, and rebellion ?
before the game about 40 green balloons were swirling around the goalmouth, and in a pure mental freak of lemmings naturism, all dived into the goal at the same time.
Big FF , went into the goal and tried to bust a few, but they ran along the goal upto the opposite corner.
the groundsmen came round and started to bust the ballons, much to the shock of the crowd in 139 and 140, who covered their weans eyes, and shouted
“balloon killers”
“boo ya bassas”
“down with this sort of thing”
“leave them alone ya bullies”
and
“go home ya huns”
once their nasty work was done, and the deflated carcasses of the rubber heros were entangled in the nets , they departed, polishing their pitchforks as they laughed in the safety of the touchline from the angry mob.
but ,
as the game went on
a few hardy green balloons the descendents of the originals appeared, as if by magic, and they too, swirled into the goal nets, in a co-ordinated mesmerising motion
and they remained there till the end of the match,
cheering on the celtic to victory, in their squeeky voiced magnificence.
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if anyone has you tube evidence of this i would greatly appreciate it.
or i am imaginig it in the wake of a painful end of season quiz defeat.
Art of War on 18 May, 2012 at 22:28 said:
Re badge, drop me an email, so I can check it out.
HH
CRC
If anyone had to put up with connecton issues I had during the quiz you would have handed me the trophy.
I dont know if its Virgin or some of the cr@p my bhoys put on here.
CRC
Thanx fur ra kwiz pal. Hx2
CRC – Still a work in progress but will do, shortly.
HH
Just thinking about next season. I wonder when l will turn to someone as we are streaming out of Celtic Park and say “Does anyone know what the Huns score was?” to be met with “Nothing ,they don’t exist”
That will be a good day!
jc2 on 18 May, 2012 at 22:36 said:
If anyone had to put up with connecton issues I had during the quiz you would have handed me the trophy.
I dont know if its Virgin or some of the cr@p my bhoys put on here.
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jc2 –
you need to press the wee blue rangers button at the right hand side of your key board.
it got a wee “liqu” stamp on it.
press this,
and all the history will be deleted
and your league computer will work in fair working mode from now on.
Saint stivs,
if you are still about,thanks for the edinburgh advice,
got booked into one of the Apex hotels,superior room with breakfast,
got a no bad deal on it too,thanks again
Good morning from a warm and sunny Gold Coast.
Wandered into my living room, switched on the laptop and wondered, what’s on CQN while I’ve been in the land of nod?
Absolutely explosive stuff Paul. You have got my weekend off to a flier.
You know, when this is all over and Rangers have been duly consigned to the dustbin of Football history and we can all get back to talking Celtic and Football, I really do believe that you should be rewarded with a seat on the Board of Directors of Celtic FC. Director of Supporters Communication and Liasion sounds like an apt job title. You could be the communication link between the board and the supporters and vice versa.
What’s not to like?
Saint Stivs on 18 May, 2012 at 22:34
said:
Those poor ballons …. l have a photo but sadly no video.
At the last game at Easter rd there were hundreds of green ballons in the Celtic end which the fans burst as the bhoys came out. What a noise.
gordybhoy64 on 18 May, 2012 at 22:44 said:
Saint stivs,
good stuff.
hope its good.
if you want somewhere to eat or pubs to go gies a shout as well.
REASONS WHY RANKERS SHOULD NOT BE PUNISHED
They have provided financial security to Scottish Football … Oops, no, sorry
They are ambassadors for Scottish Football…………………….. Oops, no, sorry
They have won the fair play award, home & abroad…………… Oops, no, sorry
They have introduced green straws for their soft drinks……… Oops, no, sorry
They allow Catholic players to bless themselves on the pitch. Oops,no, sorry
They have curtailed their sectarian element………………………. Oops, no, sorry
Their manager doesn’t ‘lose the plot’ on the touch line………. Oops, no, sorry
They do not threaten SFA officials…………………………………… Oops, no, sorry
They do not send bullets and bombs in the post……………….. Oops, no, sorry
They do not cause extensive damage to our stadium…………. Oops, no, sorry
They never did tell their children not to play with “TAIGS”…… Oops, no, sorry
They did not urinate on Valencia supporters……………………… Oops, no, sorry
They do not use foul language on FF……………………………….. Oops, no, sorry
They did not trash Manchester………………………………………… Oops, no, sorry
They do not exude violence an bigotry on their orange walks Oops, no, sorry
Their supporters regularly attend church services………………. Oops, no, sorry
They are not anti Catholic Schools for purely bigoted reasons Oops, no, sorry
Feel free to add to this list, since we need to ensure we do everything possible to minimise the punishment currently under consideration by our Football Authorities……….and, don’t forget, we keep being told we need them……
Tom – he’s already there….board lackey! ;-)
Oh good morning, how you keeping?!
T4
How will this song go now?
we shall not,we shall not be moved
not by the hearts ,the hibs or the ???????
help
HH
TET
You around?
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