The SPL deadline for clubs to provide information on improper registration of players was six weeks ago today but the league has yet to report findings to clubs, while the chief executive rallies support to allow a Newco access to the league.
Time has expired on this policy of non-disclosure until it’s too late.
If the SPL chief executive ever tells us that Rangers fielded improperly registered players between 2000 and 2012, resulting in years of 3-0 defeats being awarded, there will be an enormous amount of anger, not only among supporters, but in boardrooms across the country, as they ponder money which was rightfully theirs but which went to Rangers – perhaps including Rangers prize money for finishing second this season.
We have made an attempt to quantify this money. Some of the losses were easier to calculate than others. For example, it was easy to calculate that when Rangers won the title in 2009 with improperly registered players, earning automatic qualification to the Champions League group stage, they denied Celtic £15m European earnings, plus £340k SPL prize money. Other losses are less clear, specifically when a club was denied a place in a qualifying round for the Champions League or Uefa Cup, which they may or may not have progressed from.
We have established three figures for each club in the SPL during the season just finished, to cover the period from 2000 to 2012:
Minimum loss:
The absolute minimum each club was denied from European and SPL prize money as a result of Rangers finishing above them with ineligible players.
Weighted loss:
The figure based on Scottish clubs gaining entry to Champions League/Europa League (Uefa Cup) group stages from 20% of their qualifying campaigns (which is slightly less than trend).
Maximum loss:
The maximum a club could have achieved if it qualified for the European group stage it was denied entry to.
Out estimates take no account of the subsequent effect money has on future years. For example, If Celtic earned an additional £15m from entering the Champions League group stage in 2009-10 their league challenge for that season would have been £15m stronger, and Rangers £15m weaker, potentially resulting in consequences in future years.
This multiplier effect would have benefited Celtic but it would be likely to have a greater effect on other clubs, some of whom would be denied the enormous percentage increase in budget automatic qualification to European group stages would have brought.
Hearts finished immediately behind Celtic and Rangers more often than any other club over the period and suffer the greatest potential losses, even more so than Celtic. Hibernian, Aberdeen, Dundee United and Motherwell also suffered significant losses.
Several clubs got nowhere near European football over the period, and some of the 11 spent only a few years in the SPL but each club lost over £1m.
Figures for each club are:
Hearts
Maximum: £72.3m
Weighted: £16.3m
Minimum: £6.2m
Celtic
Maximum: £46.7m
Weighted: £21.9m
Minimum: £17.4m
Hibernian
Maximum: £34.8m
Weighted: £8.4m
Minimum: £3.6m
Aberdeen
Maximum: £21.1m
Weighted: £5.5m
Minimum: £2.7m
Dundee United
Maximum: £20.8m
Weighted: £5.2m
Minimum: £2.4m
Motherwell
Maximum: £16.7m
Weighted: £4.4m
Minimum: £2.1m
Kilmarnock
Maximum: £5.1m
Weighted: £1.9m
Minimum: £1.3m
Dunfermline
Maximum: £3.4m
Weighted: £1.8m
Minimum: £1.5m
Inverness
Maximum: £1.3m
Weighted: £1.3m
Minimum: £1.3m
St Johnstone
Maximum: £1.1m
Weighted: £1.1m
Minimum: £1.1m
St Mirren
Maximum: £1.1m
Weighted: £1.1m
Minimum: £1.1m
In the event Rangers fielded ineligible players during the period under consideration, which everyone apart from Neil Doncaster knows, and even he will be unable to deny next week, we know the following:
Rangers received a minimum of £40.9m which should have gone to the 11 other clubs, assuming each club lost all their European group stage qualifying campaigns. This calculation does not include earnings from clubs now in the Scottish Football League, such as Hamilton Accies or Dundee.
If Scottish clubs progressed to the group stages of European competition on only 20% of their qualifying campaigns the loss would be £69.0m.
The figure for total potential losses if clubs successfully progressed to every European group stage is, as the figure for 100% failure, more illustrative than likely, but the maximum cost to the 11 SPL clubs is £224.6m.
Results will be changed, trophies can and will, be re-awarded, but these are the harsh financial consequences clubs, their lawyers and supporters, will consider when the facts are presented to them next week. The SPL executive has had six weeks to consider if there is sufficient evidence to commence disciplinary proceedings; they have failed to do so. They have failed you and every other football supporter in the land, while shamelessly pursuing an accommodation for the errant club BEFORE REVEALING THE FACTS TO YOU.
Time will be up soon, Mr Doncaster. You’ve had your chance but you have convinced no one. The people who really matter in this entire debacle are those who buy tickets for Celtic Park, Pittodrie, Easter Road, Tynecastle, Tannadice, Fir Park and the rest, they will hear the truth and read these figures. You have failed them.
You can read our calculations here. European income figures were sources from Uefa data.
Celtic’s disadvantage deepened when their winger John Doyle was sent off ten minutes into the second half for kicking the scorer, but there was an equaliser from Aitken, who was especially suited to a night of such fervour and force. Never bashful, Aitken was stimulated by the challenge of being in an outnumbered line-up.
From Celtic: A Biography in Nine Lives, by Kevin McCarra.
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The huns are now, as an institution, fuct. Do we need to remind ourselves how fuct they are as individuals?
If we’re gonna talk about any other Scottish team tonight, let it be Hibs.
I’ve lived in Scotland for almost 20 years now, most of them in Embra, and I hate Hertz almost as much as, and sometimes more than, the huns. Sucmmy fans, scummy team, deluded by their East Coast location that they can;t be “West Coast” bigots; honestly, I’ve had supposedly intelligent season-ticket HMFC fans claiming that sectarianism isn’t a problem, it’s just that they hate Celtic more than Rangers. ‘What about the songs and chants about Fenians and Papes and fkoff back to Ireland, and (more recently), the attacks on our manager?” Well, it’s because you’re bangin on aboput being Irish…Catholic..you sing IRA songs…Lennon has it coming…” etc etc
I’m under no illusions about Hibs fans’ feelings towards us; but I fkng hate hertz. I also love that Hibs fans have adopted this song, by a band that are hugely underrated.
http://youtu.be/cKKAs2mnQUA
Would love to see this at 5pm tmw.
Art of War on 18 May, 2012 at 23:09 said:
31003 on 18 May, 2012 at 23:03 said:
Robert n May Miller – they still goin?
I remember watching them singing Ebony & Ivory in the 80′s around the Kelvinbridge area. Can’t be the same surely?
share on F’book or Twitter
Apparently
Not my choice…..one of the gang loves them so we’re all getting dragged along as part of our football day oot!!!!’
1….. got to be Ronnie Simpson
Fortunes Favour Mibbes –
I have seen that video before. While there was obviously no physical violence visited on the poor man, it was the public humiliation of a human being who is already down on his luck that sickened me. This is made worse by the fact that he was humiliated in his home town, while going about his normal business, at the cruel hands of invaders from another land.
They really are a despicable shower.
Ronnie Simpson
Mcnamarra senior
Pat Mcginlay
Liam Millar
Deek Riordan
A Celtic Hibbes Bhoys 11, greats only, fill in the blanks please –
1.
2. (no sneddon)
3.
4, Pat Stanton
5. Mike Conroy
6.
7.
8. Scott Broon.
9. Joe McBride.
10.
11, John Collins.
Magnificentseven
You make a good point. I’ve never travelled abroad to see us play, but have heard many stories of heavy handling by the local law. Understandable given the references they’d likely receive from Strathclyde’s finest imo, and the association with the govanites. Thankfully though, we’ve travelled enough to put that lies to rights, and with UEFA and FIFA’s specific blessings no less :))
I hope Hibs win, but the game I’m really looking forward to is the Champions’ League final. I really want Bayern Munich to win.
Most interesting things for this viewer who hardly sees German football will be to appreciate better the amazing Schweinsteiger, whose role as orchestrator from deep in the midfield is no longer new, and Mario Gómez, who is much more athletic, mobile, skilful and dangerous than I thought before seeing the semi-final.
Most of all, I am keen to see Toni Kroos. In my opinion, he and Iker Muniaín are a new breed of midfielder, super fast, intelligent, skillful and amazingly athletic, and often the most advanced player in the team. Amazing. I hope to see Toni Kroos do this tomorrow and a few teams try it in the Euros.
I love it when football formations change.
31003 on 18 May, 2012 at 23:12 said:
The Mearns CQN club is growing :-)
HH
CRC
31003
Aye, a know, you & yir mucker Gerry, believe av moved up wi the big bhoys!
Met Gerry 2004, Teplice, courtesy of CFC, had a box at time, they took us there.
CRC warned me bout you twa.
Fortunes Favour Mibbes on 18 May, 2012 at 23:07 said:
It doesn’t matter what they do….excuses are made for their hunbelievable behaviour ….. Well no longer….everyone has now ‘woken up’ to them
Saint Stivs – Bertie Auld????
Tom,
Aye, and there was more sickening things they recorded themselves doing. The peak in sectarian crime is no simple co-incidence.
That club has a lot more to answer for than it ever will. I firmly believe the proverbial won’t hit the fan with them until after July. The powers that be aren’t THAT daft….daft, but not that daft !
Art of War on 18 May, 2012 at 23:10 said:
St Stivs – Pat McGinlay at 10! Good St Tams pupil!
Me too mate!!!
Never saw the greats bit
take out a couple and put Stein and Mcneill in as boss and director of football
Murdo in also.
Ronnie Simpson
3/1 Chelsea to win 90 mins, can’t let that pass so will have a bit of it. Though I hope Ze Germans win it, and win it well.
canny go with Liam or Derek, no great shakes.
1. Ronnie Simpson (brilliant catch who posted that)
2. (no sneddon)
3.
4, Pat Stanton
5. Mike Conroy
6. Jackie McNamara (would loved to be on the left wing, but better defender)
7.
8. Scott Broon.
9. Joe McBride.
10.
11, John Collins.
midfield maestro on 18 May, 2012 at 23:17 said:
31003
Aye, a know, you & yir mucker Gerry, believe av moved up wi the big bhoys!
Met Gerry 2004, Teplice, courtesy of CFC, had a box at time, they took us there.
CRC warned me bout you twa.
Strange thing is……when you drink in said club…..not only do you become invisible……..when you go home your better half loves you more than ever…..weird….
Anyway, apols for spoiling the Friday night by referring to them.
Onto one of my favourite subjects….where the Midfield Maestro these days?? Last I heard a couple of months ago on here he was in Australia?
celticrollercoaster says In Neil we trust on 18 May, 2012 at 23:17 said:
31003 on 18 May, 2012 at 23:12 said:
The Mearns CQN club is growing :-)
HH
CRC
We need numbers to counteract the evil peepil………
Bertie Auld at number 10?
Never really understood why Toni Kroos gets so much praise, even the Munich fans didn’t want him near the team 6 months ago.
2. Didier Agathe
3. Ulrik Laursen
St Stivs
If you ask a Hibby Celtic stole the whole first team fro hibs back in 1888
Chicken George ??
31003 on 18 May, 2012 at 23:22 said:
jelly and ice cream is all we need
HH
CRC
Electric fags……..brilliant!!!!!!!
Pat McCluskey if you want a bruiser in defence
A brilliant video about the history of Celtic
http://youtu.be/Z_O0aBL48PQ
31003 – they are actually quite good. Enjoy!
HH
the_huddle on 18 May, 2012 at 23:23 said:
Maybe its his cool name.
Watchin Sky news, hope London huns get pumped the morra.
The Official history of Celtic Football Club
Celtic First
watched Bayern a few times in the CL this season …they have been excellent
can`t quite understand how/why they didn`t win the Bundes ..
i hope the trounce the London Hun tomorrow …really canna ego those barra boy louts
btw ..spoke to the wee man yesterday had a good natter about the foe malign …on good form
midfield maestro –
Well done Paul. You’ve earned it, although how your business makes any money when you are swanning off all over Europe every couple of weeks is beyond me :-)
Seriously though, that’s a good move for you and the family.
As for Josh – he has obviously been bitten by the travel and adventure bug. So I might see you and your missus out here one day after all?
Stuart has settled down with his girl now after buying a house in Edinburgh. He assures me his wild days are now behind him. God that makes me feel even older :-)
Fortunes Favour Mibbes on 18 May, 2012 at 23:16 said:
Magnificentseven
You make a good point. I’ve never travelled abroad to see us play, but have heard many stories of heavy handling by the local law. Understandable given the references they’d likely receive from Strathclyde’s finest imo, and the association with the govanites. Thankfully though, we’ve travelled enough to put that lies to rights, and with UEFA and FIFA’s specific blessings no less :))
to be honest that was one of my first trips abroad with the hoops….I have found it generally easier since then…much less of being herded around…..I do think how we have behaved has been a large part of this… no need to be heavy handed they are only here to party sort of thing………….I took my daughter to Stuttgart…had a couple of beers in their supporters club..tickets in the away end….and not even a hint of trouble…..we are not the huns and everyone knows it
George m’cluskey anyone , a favourite of mine
Jock Stein Hibs/Celtic
1. Ronnie Simpson (brilliant catch who posted that)
2. (no sneddon)
3.
4, Pat Stanton
5. Mike Conroy
6. Jackie McNamara (would loved to be on the left wing, but better defender)
7.
8. Bertie Auld (sorry Scoot Scott Broon.)
9. Joe McBride.
10. Sandy McMahon (171 goals in 217 games for Celtic)
11, John Collins.