It’s another big day in the title race as Aberdeen visit Firhill. Partick Thistle’s form has been up and down recently, losing to Hearts and Dundee United, beating St Johnstone home and away, winning and losing against Motherwell, all in their last six games. They have not won or lost by more than two goals win or defeat since November.
Aberdeen’s games since the turn of the year have also been tight, a 3-1 defeat at Inverness last month is the only occasion there has been more than a single goal in any of their games. It’s likely to be tight tonight.
A win would put Thistle into the top six, is it too much to ask…….
Natural justice would suggest that Rangers liquidators, BDO, should be allowed to appeal to the Supreme Court on the club’s creditors’ behalf (they were granted permission to appeal this morning). Rangers won the initial decision on a number of their players EBTs, and then the first appeal, so it’s clear there are finer points of law at play.
With Rangers now in liquidation, creditors may wonder why BDO are spending their (diminishing) pot of money on what is sure to be extravagant legal fees, especially as HMRC is the most influential creditor. Liquidators have a responsibility to the creditors to dismiss any claims on creditors’ funds which cannot be substantiated. If the liquidator wins at the Supreme Court, all creditors apart from HMRC will receive a higher payout.
I don’t imagine Supreme Court hearings and written judgements are arranged in a hurry, so put this one on the back burner for a while, but there remains a lot at play here. I’ve tried to steer clear of the issue for a while now, as it’s little more than a distraction, but that’ll change should HMRC win in London.
Good luck to Thistle tonight.
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Question to the CQN panel
Who would you credit most with Aberdeenshire galant title challenge..?
1 McInnes and Milne
Or
2. Deila and Lawwell
Aberdeen not Aberdeenshire!
CultsBhoy
Who would you credit most with Aberdeenshire galant title challenge..? 1 McInnes and Milne Or 2. Deila and Lawwell.
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Greg Aitken
Crawford Allan
Euan Anderson
John Beaton
Iain Brines
Craig Charleston
Kevin Clancy
William Collum
Brian Colvin
Barry Cook
Andrew Dallas
Stephen Finnie
Kevin Graham
Bobby Madden
John McKendrick
Steven McLean
Alan Muir
Calum Murray
Euan Norris
Mat Northcroft
Stevie O’Reilly
Des Roache
Don Robertson
Paul Robertson
George Salmond
David Somers
Craig Thomson
Mike Tumilty
Correction,
Tax bill issued in season 2010/11
License application 2011/12 – offence.
Deadline date, conjecture so far
Action, earliest possible deadline.
Canamalar
Sometimes it is true knowledge is strength. It can also be used to control the masses. If only time was our friend.
As the old cliche roughly states ” we all have watches but we don’t have the time”.
Our supporters disconnect with how Celtic are ” reacting” to this whole situation is very evident. To such an extent that there soon won’t be any masses.
The ordinary fan, without extensive knowledge of the legalities has simply run out of patience.
HH to you.
Hope My Bad isnae on that panel.
Ye’ll huv a helluva wait for an answer!
Burgas Hoops
Haha… They definitely have a role but a less significant one than in house culprits this season imo
Good morning from a duellist Edinburgh.
Today, we celebrate the 51st anniversary of Jock’s appointment as Celtic manager.
It also happens to be Thom the Thim Day.
BRT&H….
That is an eyeopener, obviously the huns have been holding their water on this as has the smsm.
How f****n sleekit is the whole of this!
* duellist = dullest.
CULTSBHOY CAN NOT RELATE TO CELTIC BOARD AMBITIONS ON OR OFF THE PARK on 9TH MARCH 2016 10:22 AM
Question to the CQN panel
Who would you credit most with Aberdeenshire galant title challenge..?
1 McInnes and Milne
2 Delia and Lawwell
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3. Apathy and complacency
HH.
Morning all,
Stepping in the footsteps of hopeful smiles has long been my mantra. Not because I believe that the future holds a vista of sunlit valleys and glens, but because immersing myself in the likely downpours and floods that in all probability will come all of our ways at some time or another just means that I will be miserable before I really need to be.
Anyway enough of my naive home grown philosophy….Today is the anniversary of Jock Steins appointment as Celtic Manager.
What more reason to raise a glass and a smile and reflect on the just what a rapids of under achievement our club was navigating back in those barren years, albeit with an abundance of rare diamonds sadly hidden in a slag heap of ego, board interference and bigotry that makes anything going on today no more than a gnat’s bite on a water buffalo’s bahookie.
I would have liked to have written something special for today, and a few years ago I would at least have been able to have attempted to put a few thoughts together, but the creative juices are now more a damp stain on a dried up river bed.
So just as a wee retrospective perhaps some of you …..and those who don’t might be interested…..in this wee mixture of fiction, fact and genuine ‘Unintended Consequences’.
https://goo.gl/kU2k44
Hail Hail and Thanks to the man from who unearthed and made those diamonds shine brighter than any stars before or since
Matt
thomthethim…
Have a good one and good luck with the sword fencing:)
BRTH
Would Peter Lawwell have to confirm or deny to a shareholder a question about this deadline and what Celtic plc have done in view of the information they have, if this question was in writing?
BRTH/Canamalar
Do you trust the Celtic Plc board to have been in touch with UEFA over this?
Will pick up at lunch break.
Hi bee at work tells me Anton Stokes hasn’t been universally popular at hibs. Out at a casino late at night begore game following afternoon- wasn’t appreciated in dressing room. Gray wanted square go with him and apparently Stubbs closed the dressing room door and assented to it.
Tittle tattle yes.
Thomthethim
Many happy returns.
Sipsini,
Thanks.
He who lives by the sword……etc.
HT,
Thank you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPHpQY77fLU
Supreme Court rules in favour of HMRC vs Deutsche Bank in Cayman Island tax-free bonus scheme.
DB will have to pay £49m.
HMRC had lost the case twice.
HAPPY HOOOOOPY BIRTHDAY to
THOMTHETHIM !!!!!!!!
Pleasant surprise for you,bud-Big Jock turning up on your birthday!
Greenpinata,
We are and have never used knowledge to control anyone, we were using it to ensure no one tried to control us, or try and pull the wool over our eyes, we are well aware of corporate politics and how they will try and play us to suit their unpublished agenda.
We opened this because we wanted cheating to be addressed, they got into it for their own reasons.
We are focusing on ensuring the resolution is carried out faithfully as promised to the signatories, we are not interested in alternative goals, why should we if they refuse to include us in their strategy.
We were and are willing to be used up to a point but we don’t accept they know best, they don’t or we would not have needed to intervene with the resolution in the first place. Remember they accepted the SFA’s dismissal when they did ask the question. They like us, were basically told to leave it to the big boys in long trousers and run along. The difference is we represent the support they represent a corporation.
thomthethim for Oscar OK
Many Happy Returns of the day mate, health and happiness to you..
CULTSBHOY CAN NOT RELATE TO CELTIC BOARD AMBITIONS ON OR OFF THE PARK on 9TH MARCH 2016 10:22 AM
We’re drifting towards an average points total, and by that I mean a fairly standard amount for being league winners.
If Aberdeen are close to (or heaven forbid better) then that’s all down to them.
Canamalar
Check your e-mail re the potential time limits.
The licensing process was initiated prior to 31st March 2011 but the licence application compliance deadline was that date.
The questions that have to be posed are:
Was that application full, transparent and bona fides as at that date?
I suspect it was going from what I know of the situation.
However, were the submissions made after that date open, transparent and bona fides with there being full disclosure of all the salient documentation?
Given the nature of the charges in the criminal case ( now made public ) I can’t see how this can be the case.
Did the SFA, or the UEFA compliance officer ( remember that Regan’s stated position is that after the initial application is granted the whole process is nothing to do with the SFA and was administered by UEFA and not the SFA ) process the information provided properly, were they fully aware of all the salient facts or were they withheld from them, did they utilise all of the powers and check procedures open to them in relation to the licence application and the submissions made in support of that application?
Further, were the submissions made post 31 March truthful, did they disclose the demands from HMRC as they should have, did whoever was dealing with this check with HMRC as they were empowered to do, did whoever was dealing with this check the position regarding supposed payments to account, interim agreements regarding payments and so on.
Did the application in general meet the test as should have been applied as at 30th June and if so, did it meet that criteria in light of the documents and representations which are now known about and which will form part of the evidence in the forthcoming criminal trial where the undertakings given in law are a matter of record and which can be tested against.
According to the crown office — there were serious misrepresentations made which amount to fraudulent conduct. HMRC have made the same allegation ( albeit in slightly different format and style ).
The conduct concerned took place between 31st March 2011 and 30th June of the same year and thereafter.
That conduct, by the officers of the SFA, can possibly be extended to include written representations which were made to Peter Lawwell when Celtic first started to enquire about these matters. Those responses were less than full, did not address the points raised or the correct regulations and were terminated in a snappy fashion.
At least one reply was drafted by Regan and sent to Ibrox for approval before sending to Celtic Park — only for Ally Russell to advise Regan not to send it as “It would be embarrassing for both of us” or words to that effect.
The issues, consequences and correspondence may well only be examined at a later date but as you well know there is correspondence from the revenue which appears to have been kept from the SFA/UEFA which is now known about, which is germane, which would appear to feature nowhere in the licensing file and which is formed no part of the compliance decision as at 30th June.
In the absence of that correspondence the licencing decision is mala fides and is essential functus.
If the correspondence is in the file, then compliance as at 30th June is impossible.
The poin for today is that if this is a UEFA matter then it has to be a UEFA matter now failing which UEFA are not able to deal with it at all because the matter will be time barred in terms of their own statutes thus rendering them powerless and taking them out of the game.
That should not be allowed to happen.
All of this is known within the SFA, within the walls of Celtic park and as far as I know to the other clubs.
Much of it will be known by the press and most of it is very much available on line and is in the public domain.
If none of the footballing bodies — and that includes the clubs and of course Celtic — are prepared to take the simple step of formally organising an administrative process to look into these matters then why support them financially?
Rules etc are there to guide people through all sorts of situations. You can adapt your behaviour within the framework of the rules and by mutual or consensual agreement you can waive or dispense with regulations which would otherwise apply.
But if you don’t act in terms of the rules then those rules apply and you are stuck with them.
For the avoidance of doubt, it is for the bloody clubs and football authorities to govern the game. That is why you have CEO’s on big salaries at Hampden and elsewhere.
It is not for fans to constantly check up on them and their compliance procedures.
HMRC v Deutsch Bank .
Supreme Court didn’t approve of something it perceived to be a carefully planned tax avoidance scheme – disguised renumeration / a breach of the rules etc.
Canamalar,
Thanks for your reply.
I do appreciate the effort you guys are putting in. It’s just so f@@@ing frustrating. We see Sevco now boasting that they don’t owe any third party debt.
How sickening and ironic is that.
I do however reitterate that i don’t think time is on our side, whereas they seem to have all the time in the world.
HH.
Weeminger
Average over what period?
Greenpinata…
It’s done and dusted, the huns have got away with it.
The corruption will continue.
Get a big stick and knock f**k out that donkey and give it a few hits from me:(
Monday 9th
I have left this rather late tonight and it is cold. The priest Fr Murphy was in. I had a discussion with him on the situation. He said he enjoyed our talk and was somewhat enlightened, when he was leaving.
On the subject of priests, I received a small note from a Fr S. C. from Tralee, Kerry, and some holy pictures of Our Lady. The thought touched me. If it is the same man, I recall him giving a lecture to us in Cage 11 some years ago on the right to lift arms in defence of the freedom of one’s occupied and oppressed nation. Preaching to the converted he was, but it all helps.
It is my birthday and the boys are having a sing-song for me, bless their hearts. I braved it to the door, at their request, to make a bit of a speech, for what it was worth. I wrote to several friends today including Bernie and my mother. I feel all right and my weight is 60 kgs.
I always keep thinking of James Connolly, and the great calm and dignity that he showed right to his very end, his courage and resolve. Perhaps I am biased, because there have been thousands like him but Connolly has always been the man that I looked up to.
I always have tremendous feeling for Liam Mellowes as well; and for the present leadership of the Republican Movement, and a confidence in them that they will always remain undaunted and unchanged. And again, dare I forget the Irish people of today, and the risen people of the past, they too hold a special place in my heart.
Well, I have gotten by twenty-seven years, so that is something. I may die, but the Republic of 1916 will never die. Onward to the Republic and liberation of our people.
Bobby M, Starry, et al,
Thank you.
Bob, Big Jock got the key of the door to Celtic, the same day as I got the Key.
Tickets now on sale for Celtic v Hearts
By: Newsroom Staff on 09 Mar, 2016 10:03
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Dessybhoy/Hamiltontim
I would expect the executive of any PLC to properly respond to an enquiry by a shareholder – after all the executive officers are there to represent the interests of all shareholders.
Hamiltontim
To answer your point, I would say this.
I have said time and time again that Peter Lawwell is a very good CEO if you want a CEO who is from an accountancy background who will watch budgets and so on. He is great at that.
However, he is no legal genius with all due respect to him and it was Auldheid who pointed out that while he was asking questions about certain regulations being complied with he was ignoring or was not aware of rule 66 which meant that the real focus should have been on the state of play as at 30th June 2011 and not 31st March.
I am not aware of anyone addressing the impending time limits or what action they have taken to preserve rights in terms of the rules.
There has been no communication that I am aware of from Celtic park to say that they have even considered the issue.
I suspect it has been missed in all honesty but could be wrong.
There has been a clamour for statements and a directive from the crown office for nothing to be done which would jeopardise the trials.
There is also, alleged, direct communication between the SFA and Celtic on matters raised by RES 12 — all at the request of the SFA.
It may be that the SFA communication- which I am unaware of in terms of detail etc – is designed to be a smokescreen and to deflect Celtic and others away from looking at the rules and ensuring the UEFA right of investigation is maintained.
In which case the Celtic Board will have been played and outmaneuvered by the SFA.
If that were to be the case one would have to ask a question about how could such a high profile and highly paid executive have been duped in such a way?
Sometimes people get lost in their own long grass.
Sonas ort inniu thomthethim.
As you may have noticed you share your birthday with Bobby Sands.
Árd Macha
I have to admit to being a pessimist regarding the tribute act I believe they will not suffer from any of the court cases and I base my belief on the fact that nothing has happened to them up to now .I believe we may have had the opportunity to act but we failed to do so and from my point of Celtic appear to have been caught like a rabbit in a cars headlights and the moment has gone. The tribute act will be in the SPL next season along with all there baggage and it will business as usual. H.H.
I’ve gone from feeling reassured by Canamalar’s post to being worried by BRTH’s subsequent post.
Sipsini
The big hinging donkey full o sweets has taken a right doing over the past few months. Our cat is so glad we have a Piñata:-)))))
Heard Donald Trump piñata’ s are all the rage in Mehico . Would be good if we could obtain Greyskull ones; would eliminate the need for violence as they fall to bits themselves.
I hope that you are wrong re Huns and corruption, however the longer it goes on the more likley you will be right. Cheating bassas.
That why we need our club ( not the supporters ) to proclaim. Not in our name. I know I keep repeating myself, repeating myself, but for many of us silence now equates to complicity.
KTF and HH.