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Training Compensation, withdrawn rant, Celtic action on the streets

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Football clubs tie themselves in knots sometimes.  Newco Rangers fired off with an incorrect rant on the same club/new club debate yesterday, only to be told to withdraw it a couple of hours later – which they promptly did.  Dundee United signed Charlie Telfer on a free contract and were due to pay Training Compensation to his previous club, for the player’s development from when he was 13-years-old.

Football operates a Training Compensation system whereby clubs signing players up to 23-years-old have to make a payment for the development of the player since they were 13.  The payment is made in its entirety to the club which previously held the player’s registration.  The receiving club is then obliged to pay any previous clubs for their portion of the player’s development.

Dundee United contested the rate at which they had to pay for Charlie Telfer, incorrectly, as it turned out.  They did not contest that they were due to pay the entirety of Telfer’s development to the preceding club.  No mechanism exists to forgive Training Compensation obligations in the event a preceding club no longer exist.  Any monies due remain payable, ultimately to the club’s creditors.

Those at Newco who fired off the statement in haste yesterday will now consider that they have collected payment for services fulfilled by oldco.  It is up to Rangers’ liquidators, BDO, to recover their portion of the money from Dundee United on behalf of creditors.

A condition which Newco signed up to, to gain membership of the SFA, was that they become responsible for all Rangers’ football financial obligations.  This includes paying down Training Compensation, as well as the still-uncollected £250k fine levied by the Nimmo Smith Inquiry.

That £250k fine has become something of a football ‘football’.  It is a football debt due to the SPL, which has since folded its liabilities and obligations onto the SPFL.  The SPL was not in a position to enforce payment as newco never played top flight football, so the matter was parked until it became actionable.  I don’t know the current position of the Nimmo Smith £250k debt but faux bravado can only encourage others to ask the question, “Where’s our £250k?”

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The whole ‘More than a club’ business takes life on the streets of Scotland, the schools of Africa and lots of places in between.  You need to watch the video to find out how.

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  1. Anton went out with my cousin for a few years. He was a smashing guy and great company.

     

     

    He was also a fantastic source for tickets :-)

  2. Anton knocked it over and Macca put it in, nice one Macca, nice one son, nice one Macca let’s have another one.

     

     

    And we did get another one!!

     

     

    Centenary double

  3. !!Bada Bing!!

     

    00:52 on

     

    10 December, 2014

     

    Steven Gerrard hits wan ba in a year, costs me 110 bangers……

     

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    amfekngladyabass….did you say summit about me buying a drink ??:O)

  4. Nye Bevans' rebel soldier on

    Anton was given a jersey, he took it and did his

     

    best,who on here widnae have done the same.

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    Auldheid

     

    19:32 on

     

    10 December, 2014

     

    Summa 18.39

     

     

    It’s a question of timescale. I expect the kind of reassurance I’m looking for to come out during the spring as a consequence of the steps BRTH refers to being taken.

     

     

    I think my problem is being way ahead of the game if that does not sound condescending.

     

     

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    No it Doesn’t sound Condescending but does explain your apparent (To Me) change in Tact towards Celtic

     

     

    i remember just before the Last Old Firm game (..;-)..) in 2012 Talking to Moonbeams and DIBBIA in BB’s on How we wanted the Rangers situation to Pan out..They both wanted then Dead and Banished to DIV 3 or for good if that was a Option..l wanted the SFA or UEFA/FIFA to rule if they had in Fact cheated..According to Football rules..which would have to be a Definite Yes or No..

     

     

    Then for them to be Punished Accordingly by Football Authorities..My thinking was if they had been found to have Cheated in Football terms say for 9 Years they should be Tipped of titles and or Punished accordingly my suggestion was something like a 15 point deduction for every year they cheated which would give them very little chance of winning the Title for 9 years just like Celtic in the Asterix Years..

     

     

    As l said this was Just Pub chat..

     

     

    But my main Point was it had to be dealt with by Football Authorities..and as You mention Time-scale would have to before the Next Season not a Decade plus of Legal rulings..

     

     

    I’m not quite sure if this is what happened to Juventus but in Australia Rugby Melbourne Storm were Stripped for Titles for Financial Dopping..about 2 Years ago again ruling was made in House and took months..

     

     

    Summa

  6. The Comfortable Collective on

    If Maribor win at home tonight, it means that Celtic could face them (or indeed Legia Warsaw) come the draw on Monday.

     

     

    That would be a nice barometer of progress under RD, get one of those two mobs again, this time with 7 or 8 months of games under Celtic’s belt. . .

  7. Over in belfast for a few days. Looking for a celtic pub, near city centre to watch game . Anyone any ideas. Thanks in advance

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    Hamiltontim

     

    20:04 on

     

    10 December, 2014

     

    Anton went out with my cousin for a few years. He was a smashing guy and great company.

     

     

    He was also a fantastic source for tickets :-)

     

     

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    Did Anton not get Battered in the Face with a Ball in a Game once..;-)))))

     

     

    Summa of BawHeidCSC

  9. !!Bada Bing!!

     

    20:14 on

     

    10 December, 2014

     

    VP-Get us a lager,you must be minted fleecin the Christmas shoppers in Force 8 Gales…..:

     

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    It’s quiet this week big mhan…..shoppers have their sensible heids on for once.

  10. charles kickham on

    Just on – If my memory serves me right we got put out of the CL on 11 points the same year arsenal went through on 9 – tonight someone will go through in the man city group on 8 points – well my point is – it just ain’t fair

  11. Dallas Dallas where the heck is Dallas on

    Blantyre, anton’s love of celtic always shone through. He was a player who played for the jersey.

     

     

    I first saw him playing as a trialist for us versus st mirren reserves after he recovered from his first fracture.

     

     

    When he returned to his club, distillery i think, he suffered another fracture. It ‘s good he

     

    Wasn ‘t told thanks but no thanks by the club and we signed him after recovering from the second fracture.

  12. The Comfortable Collective on

    charles kickham

     

     

    There is a very real chance that the second placed team in Man City’s group will get through with 6 points. . .

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    Re; Charlie Miller..

     

     

    l remember coming on CQN after a Encounter with Miller and about 18 of his Team mates of (Gold coast) football team in The Melbourne Casino at 5am after a Celtic game my only crime was l had a

  14. summa of sammi….

     

     

    20:19 on 10 December, 2014

     

     

    Would rather get hit by a ball in the face than a egg out the micro :-) HH

     

     

    A and E csc

  15. charles kickham on

    The Comfortable Collective

     

     

    20:23 on 10 December, 2014

     

     

    You’re right – that makes it worse

  16. charles kickham on

    Nye Bevans’ rebel soldier

     

     

    20:24 on 10 December, 2014

     

     

    Old age and memory – what can I say

  17. Dallas

     

     

    Our mutual friend from Andytown knew Anton well. AR lived the dream that we both had as kids.

  18. The Comfortable Collective on

    In the Champions League it is possible to go through to the knockout stage with 4 points.

     

     

    In other circumstances, it is possible to be knocked out at the group stage with 12 points.

     

     

    It’s a funny old game. . .

  19. Evening Ghuys

     

     

    I’m looking for a bif of advice

     

     

    Celtic are playin away to Dundee on 14th March

     

     

    I was looking to get a couple of tickets as I happen to be in Dundee that weekend (I agreed to go on the condition i get to go to the match)

     

     

    Anyway, my question is, whats the best way to get tickets for the game?

     

     

    Go raibh maith agat

     

     

    B-)

  20. Nye Bevans' rebel soldier on

    charles kickham

     

    20:25 on

     

    10 December, 2014

     

    Nye Bevans’ rebel soldier

     

     

    20:24 on 10 December, 2014

     

     

    Old age and memory – what can I say

     

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    Tell me about it……..

     

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    tell me about what?

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    Oops

     

     

    Re; Charlie Miller..

     

     

    l remember coming on CQN after a Encounter with Miller and about 18 of his Team mates of (Gold coast) football team in The Melbourne Casino at 5am after a Celtic game my only crime was l had a Celtic top on..l was Myself as mates had not long left for home..

     

     

    One Richard Cranium shouting at me..”Do you know who that is?” that’s Charlie Miller..!! wtf.. actually the only person to tell them to shut it was Craig Moore he was the only one l recognised as l don’t watch or follow A League football..

     

     

    Imagine my Delight 6 Months Later in my Local Pub in ML4 when who walks in as a Guest of the Owner the One and Only Charlie Miller..

     

     

    He did seem a Tad sheepish when l mentioned Melbourne..and l agree with most he is Not the Brightest..

     

     

    Summa

  22. The Comfortable Collective on

    bhoylo83 at 20:28 on 10 December, 2014

     

     

    “Evening Ghuys

     

    I’m looking for a bif of advice

     

    Celtic are playin away to Dundee on 14th March

     

     

    I was looking to get a couple of tickets as I happen to be in Dundee that weekend (I agreed to go on the condition i get to go to the match)

     

     

    Anyway, my question is, whats the best way to get tickets for the game?”

     

     

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    My advice would be to ask if anyone on here knows how to get them.

  23. Tom McLaughlin said:

     

    Why are SSB discussing Celtic v Rangers? I thought we had St Mirren this weekend.

     

     

    tonydonnelly67 said:

     

    tom mclaughlin

     

    People can post what they like same as you, you want to start a convo. Fill your boots ,ate;)

     

     

    Tony –

     

     

    I was talking about SSB (Super ScoreBoard) not CQN.

     

     

    What are you on?

     

     

    :-)

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