I was delighted when Dundee were awarded the vacant place in the SPL in July last year. They are a club with an outstanding history (check it out here) whose fans have suffered poor performances and downright bad decisions since the finished within a point of Dundee United and Aberdeen, and were relegated from the Premier Division in its first season.
With a latent, considerable-sized supporter base, by any measure they should be a secure SPL club. Only Celtic, Sevco, Aberdeen, Hearts and Hibs have more fans, although Dundee United may have closed their historical gap.
If Rangers had not been liquidated Dundee would currently be in the First Division, most probably at or near the top. Barry Smith would be getting ready for a final push for promotion. Promotion came too soon, they are miles adrift and will be relegated unless Hearts go into administration, suffer a 17 point penalty and make players redundant.
Sacking Smith and appointing John Brown, in political terms, could be described as a brave decision. ‘Mad’ is another word you could use. Reports that (suffering) Dundee fans, and shareholders, are in revolt at the appointment, should surprise no one. John Brown’s very public performances last year marked him out for his communication skills, ability to plan and make considered decisions. Put him in charge, and you know what you’re getting.
Should we beat them tomorrow, spare a thought for those in dark blue in the corner of the stadium.
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Witht the demise of RFC- perhaps the European club most associated with official and unofficial forms of discrimination – decent Gers fans had a chance to wipe the slate clean.
The establishment of a new club should have been accompanied by a resounding apology for the treatment RFC meeted out to the RC population of Scotland. They could have made a point that the new club – whilst laying claim to the affections of generations of fans – was explicitly a club “open to all”.
This would have gone a long, long way to lancing a boil, and would I believe have garnered a lot of sympathy in Scotland towards the new owners.
Instead, Green and Co have made every attempt to pander to the worst elements of the old RFC support. They have very deliberately built their new club on top of the most offensive elements of the old one.
Perhaps the problem was that sectarianism was RFC’s strongest and most deeply held characteristic. Perhaps it trumped any footballing achievements the club could boast. What a sad indictment not just of Rangers but of Scotland in general…
Today’s “apology” is as mealy-mouthed and insincere as any in the past. “A small section”. “Certain inappropriate chants”. These happened “occasionally”.
A great opportunity has been missed, and those who would consider themselves “decent” Gers fans should be utterly ashamed at their inaction.
Vmhan,
If you don’t mind reading subtitles, two French series are just as good as anything else:
Spiral: police and legal drama
Bracquo: police drama.
Hail hail
Wakey,Wakey…. Italian Tims..!
Vote For Silvio…..
Early ….And Often..
The Huns aren’t bothered that they are singing offensive and sectarian songs in 2013. They are bothered that they’ve been caught and received some publicity.
A few years ago when UEFA were on their case they asked fans to stop singing certain songs as it could lead to punishment. A club who wanted to move forward would ask fans to stop signing the songs as they offended people and they should grow up and move on.
The orange pound is important to the Huns survival.
Whatever you do don’t get caught loyal?
corkcelt
00:01 on 24 February, 2013
Big Cup Winners, Twas Natasoola, he & me have a bit of previous. One night a few months ago he was having a bit of argy bargey with The Exiled Tim (a self confessed alcoholic) and one of his replies to TET was “Have a Drink”. I got really offended over that post and left him know about it, since then we are not the best of friends
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Anal stools is a hun.
Parkhead etal,
Loads of great Celtic songs to sing and that in the main is what’s sung at Celtic Park in recent years, so a big well done to the Celtic support for that.
I do hope though that we don’t lose all our songs of old which are part of our identity, we know the ones to lose and which are acceptable ( I doubt any Irish songs would be acceptable to the Irish haters), anyway the particular songs that I’d like to see (hear) re introduced are the likes of the holy ground, wild rover and hail Gloria St Patrick.
No bus from Blackpool today so my spider sense tells me a low crowd, hopefully the Green Brigade will be loud and proud today and the Glasgow police decide to go catch criminals instead of antagonising our supporters for supporting CFC.
Standing up for Celtic supporters civil rights CSC
✊
TET
Agree with you re the hun.
He is an agitator.
67Heaven @ 09:22
“sally hopes it will be an ‘isolated incident’”
He is of course referring to the fact that someome on the MSM dared to mention it.
“Northumbria Police will study video footage of the area of the stadium where its alleged the singing of offensive songs was being undertaken,”
Oooft theres a job you wouldnt want to do on an empty stomach.
Parkhead:
If Celtic is a football club, nothing more, nothing less then why does the tricolour fly over the ground, the club utilise an Irish connection in its commercial activities, why is the shamrock the badge?
The fact is that Celtic was founded as a club with Irish connections and most supporters embrace and cherish that link. Some, however, would like to restrict Celtic’s ‘Irishness’ to exclude republican sentiment. Regardless of the legitimacy or otherwise of such an objective, the practicalities prove very difficult (one person’s national anthem is another’s sectarian song) and lead to the apparent attempts to criminalise a flaboyant and committed element of the support.
Personally, Celtic is much more than simply a football club to me. I also don’t think whataboutery is combatted by appeasement (today the IRA, tomorrow the ‘offensive’ tricolour). The distinction between sectarianism and replicanism should not be conceded which is exactly, for me, what an appeasement strategy does do.
That said, I’m not advocating a songbook dominated by republican sentiment, simply a recognition of the right to sing political songs which are neither racist or sectarian.
There is a well established divide on the blog around this issue. Personally, I’ve long suggested the topic is avoided but I cannot but respond to comments implying Celtic is about football and nothing more.
Enjoy the game today and sing proud…
Good Morning all from a bright & lovely Clonmel. Really looking forward to game today, would love to see Lenny playing a few fringe players, the team he sent out against Calley would do for me. Off to Mass shortly back on here pre-match. It didn’t happen last night but I just love when some guy on here quite innocently posts Good Night at circa 5.30 a.m. and a few minutes later another guy again quite innocently posts Good Morning.
Italiabbhoy
Totally agree with you. Sadly I have never heard one of them make the same points
Slightly off topic and more to do with my own curiosity but can somebody explain why some of the posts include words that appear in green and underlined. I’ve only noticed this over the last week or so.
the honest mistake loves being first
09:35 on
24 February, 2013
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Thanks I’ll have a look and add them to my watch list.
I notice also on IMDB that Game of Thrones series 3 starts on 31st March, Easter Sunday.
V
*UPDATE*
Snowing in ole EK.
The police say sevco fans sang sectarian abuse at start of game but everyone else claim it was heard all through game, all corrupt.
Good morning Bhoys, also snowing in Airdrie.
KLV
Nowt Wrong Wi’ ‘The Professionals’,’The Saint’……And ‘The Avengers’….
And Ah Happen Tae Know…
That ‘Fireball XL5′ Wis A Particular Favourite…..
Of Ma Auld Frien’….Gold Coast Dixie…
Which Saw Him Batterin’ Up Airbles Road
As Soon As The Home Bell Went On A Thursday….
Without Stoppin’ At The Grocers Fer The Usual Single Fag…..
Just So He Could Catch The Start….
Of Each Memorable Episode….
An’ Sing Along…. Tae The Theme Tune..
‘Fireball XL5’…Episode..Planet #46
http://m.youtube.com/watch?hl=en-GB&client=mv-google&gl=GB&v=83yku222hBI
Gerry Anderson Really Wiz…
The Cat’s Whiskers..
west wales celt
09:48 on
24 February, 2013
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Good post, you say it more eloquently than I could ever hope to.
Walk tall CSC
Lovely sunny spring like morning in West Lothian.
vmhan
09:04 on
24 February, 2013
Finished Sons of Anarchy series 5 last night amazing stuff, need to have a look around for the next tv series to watch.
Any suggestions
Did you watch Utopia, which recently finished on channel 4?
Well worth a watch if you like paranoid conspiracy type thrillers. Its more violent than a Tarrantino movie and at only 5 one hour episodes, wont take you long to get through.
I am going out now.
@MattMcGlone9 @stephenmcleish @FraserAird Here is the deleted tweet from Sky sports @petecolley today.
https://t.co/IO9PcUkCoN
Please contact Sky regarding this.
Italiabhoy
Unfortunately CGs whole business strategy is built on these peepil and if you listen to some of them ,they are behind CGs “cos he stons up fur ur traditions “.
IMO he will not dare say anything against these peepil ,he needs their £ too much .
Let’s see if he says anything at all about yesterday’s disgraceful debacle ,somehow I don’t think so .
hail hail
Away to walk wee Riley along the beach,
Offski ———->
Among the songs yesterday was one about Craig Burley’s wife (in the past it has been Andy Walker’s), probably depends on the broadcaster of the day who gets it.
Banter as McCoist would assure us.
Not sectarian but extremely offensive and anyone singing this deserve to be arrested.
Vmhan:
Thanks bud but I beg to differ.
Yours is the legitimate voice of the active supporter. Sadly, I more an armchair fan.
Sadly, distance, family commitments and finances mean I very rarely get an opportunity to sing along with you…
was that tweet from a sky reporter?
reading back
bomber broon
wit are dundee thinking about,the mans a f***** screwball
Need advice.
Going to game by car today with a friend,who has a bit of difficulty with his breathing & walking.
Can he park at the superstore ? or where is the closest he can park for main stand?
hen1rik
10:00 on 24 February, 2013
@MattMcGlone9 @stephenmcleish @FraserAird Here is the deleted tweet from Sky sports @petecolley today.
https://t.co/IO9PcUkCoN
Please contact Sky regarding this.
Mr Colley offered 2 apologes almost immediately, he explaine the offensive tweet was to a personal freind and he didn’t mean to cause any offense. He also apologised to Celtic fans. He seemed quiet shocked by the response of Celtic fans and really sincere in his apology. I for one took it as an off the cuff response to a mate and didn’t feel offended by it.
leftclickic
the forge retail park
HH
leftclicktic
10:08 on
24 February, 2013
Need advice.
Going to game by car today with a friend,who has a bit of difficulty with his breathing & walking.
Can he park at the superstore ? or where is the closest he can park for main stand
You could try parking at the new indoor sports arena
weet weet weet
Thank you
IS THAT THE CLOSEST? If so he wont make it thats too far for him
Leftclicktic- you can park in the “old” bus park, behind the superstore, the clandestine “businessmen” take a couple of quid but your car will be safe.
Glorious morning here in the Rebel County………..
……neighbour stopped by for cup of tea and remarked that now the daffs were out he should really think….”THINK”…………… about taking his Christmas lights down…
:)))
Liked that…………..
…anyway, sh,shower an’ shave, ‘pineapple’ and then a quick skirmish among the hedgerows…..(escallonia, lonicera, berberis, griselenia)
……..will the Border Campaign ever be finished?
HH, and ‘mon the Hoops!
PS
“Haw Bomber!………………..tick, tock……”
leftclicktic –
It really depends how early you can get to the ground. You can park in the housing scheme that’s just across the new Clyde Gateway road from behind the superstore. You’d then have about 300m to the front of the main stand. I’ve only ever parked there at quiet games (CIS cup midweek games and the like) so not sure how early you’d need to be to get a space.
Thank you for replies
HAIL HAIL