Lewis Morgan has had a difficult shift this season. The 23-year-old winger was used sparingly as a squad player before the concurrent absences of Odsonne Edouard, Leigh Griffiths and Bayo saw him drafted into the striker role against Rennes on 28th November.
Lewis scored a good goal that day but he is not a striker. He made another four appearances in that position before Edouard’s return, which brought the experiment to an end. He made 17 appearances in League One for Sunderland during the second half of last season. In the Wembley play-off final, he was brought on as an early substitute, while Aiden McGeady remained on the bench, but his time in the North East was not particularly productive.
Now he is Going to Miami for talks with Inter (not that one), with the MLS side having agreed a fee with Celtic for his permanent transfer.
There are several things about our experience with Lewis Morgan I like. Celtic scouts considered him the top talent in the Championship, a player with the potential to make the step up. It is good that we sign players like this.
He was loaned back to St Mirren, then after six months at Lennoxtown, out to Sunderland. He was given a chance in the qualifiers, then put through the striker turmoil, which gave Neil Lennon a chance to assess the player.
The player has a League Cup winner’s medal and a Wembley experience, things that he will be talking about for the rest of his life, and is likely to sign a contract to keep him in Florida for a few years. He would have hoped to hold down a first team place at Celtic, but on balance, the move from St Mirren has worked out well for him.
We have difficulty keeping players who are outstandingly successful, but they usually leave a for fee that allows us to further strengthen. What happens with players who do not make the grade is also important. Getting them off the wage bill, for a fee and hopefully a profit, stops the budget from being clogged by unproductive costs, a problem we have discussed on these pages since the days of Martin.
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Every player bought in is a risk. If you are buying in the 1 to 9 million market the risk is increased.
Each of us has a personal choice how we approach life. Each of us has a personal choice when it comes to Celtic.
Personally I try to be optimistic, I don’t always succeed but generally I just prefer to be positive & hopeful rather than negative & fearful.
I never even heard of Polish Paddy till he was linked to us, just saw a few clips of him which in reality tells you nothing.
I choose to be hopeful about Him, so if deal gets over the line, as far as I’m concerned, You are welcome, Polish Paddy.j
Same old peter Lawell
Linked with 3 strikers
9M,5M and 3.5M. We all knew which one we would go for and I bet we started the bidding at 1.5m
Same old peter lawell. That’s why we fail at CL qualifying and now we could lose ten in a row because of his antics
SYDNEYTIM on 12TH JANUARY 2020 8:54 PM
Celtic40me. I think you have been ignoring me and tinytim spelt it out
Don’t hide behind Tiny Tim
Answer my two very straightforward questions
At what age would you take Defoe
As proven strikers would be well-enough known (the clue is in the “proven” bit) come up with some names for who we should be signing
Samir Cosgrovski,what about him.
Monaco play PSG again on Wednesday. My tickets are safely stored away.
Yes we will welcome young Paddy,but it better not be the clubs,and I include football dept,Boards answer to the improvements we need.Still scunnered,but hanging on in there hoping.
SIDNEYTIM,
you make some good points,but your obsession with PL is just so fekin boring.Do you honestly believe a different CEO would have more leeway from the Board to spend more.
Some good points,and some utter nonsense.
Apricale,
Hope it’s as good as this.Could be 7-7.
We know that stadium tours are popular with some of our fans.
What about a monthly seminar in the Kerrydale Suite – : “How Celtic Operates”
Cancelled after one month – ended in a riot!
Richard David Wolff is an American Marxian economist, known for his work on economic methodology and class analysis.
What`s this Marxian nonsense ?
Is it because people aren`t stupid enough to listen to a Marxist ?
Well we are right in the middle of transfer window angst.
Makes a change from being slap bang in the middle of “the Rangers are coming” angst.
Still 6 more days and we can get back to that.
Meanwhile pile on with the Groundhog day comments that we see in every transfer window , twice a year, since before 8iar started.
We begin with “Have we signed anyone yet?”
Move on to “Why are we interested in him?” (whether we are or not is irrelevant)
Then it’s, “we’ll get a project in and then we’ll be told that’s your lot.”
Then it’s “Rangers do their business better than us FFS!”
And, when a couple of late signings come in late in the window, they will get denounced as
Projects
Dudu Duds
Loanees
Injury prone or
Carrying the deathly predictions of an uninformed group of Germans that “He is never a striker/Leftback/goalie/Celtic class”
If we buy anyone costing over £5m they will be proclaimed as “That’s more like it!”, regardless of whether they go on to do the business for Celtic at all.
The angst is not going to go away. We still nurse our “Willo Window” wrath even though he did not cost us that league. Yet we loved the “Robbie Keane window dealings, even though we did lose that league (Robbie was blameless in that; he did much more for us than Roy Keane ever did).
Every one of the heroes that brought us 8iar have been denounced on here with scathing personal criticisms. If we win 9iar we will laud them as heroes and forget all we ever called them.
I am consoled by what Bobby Lennox told me once about his early career, when a terracing football expert told him “You’ll never be a player, son!”
These heated ill-judged words soon pass and get blown away by the judgements of history.
We remain well placed to land 9iar. Of course we could blow it. And, of course, we could have blown any of the previous 8; such suggestions WERE regularly made on here during that period.
There’s not a lot we can do, other than being better match day supporters, to drive this team on to 9iar, but it’s not as much fun as playing Fantasy Manager, is it?
Turkeybhoy, I agree Polish Paddy has to be the first of at least 4 new players whether they be purchases or Loans.
I don’t subscribe to the theory that Pedro thinks of nothing but his bonus.
I happen to believe he is an extremely capable individual, who is a genuine Celtic Supporter.
He is of course an employee and his first duty of care is to his employers.
The de facto owners of Celtic are Desmond & Lindsell Train, who between them own in excess of 50% of shares.
If Supporters are disillusioned by the path the Club is taking then they should target the organ grinders,
Macjay,
you’ve obviously never listened to him eh
one point he makes is that throughout his education and academic career all the way through to becoming a professor, never once discussed or directed to review any alternatives to capitalist economics in any of the so called ivy league establishments he graduated from. Why is that do you think?
Try listening he tells you exactly why.
Corky ,
disagree on your point about signing £9M players I suggest it reduces the risk, unless you allow a bean counter to choose who the £9M player to be signed.
What happened to the midfielder from motherwell?
Sydneytim,
where did you see the £300,000 figure for Lewis Morgan,
first time i have seen an actual figure quoted.
Canamalar, The more you pay the less the risk of getting a dud although there have been some spectacular exceptions.
My point is we shop in the 1 to 9 million market , where the risks are greater. Quite obviously I agree that a 9 million buy is more likely to be better than the 1 million buy and generally the more you pay the lesser the risk..
I am consoled by what Bobby Lennox told me once about his early career, when a terracing football expert told him “You’ll never be a player, son!”
The terracing expert would probably have been right if big Jock had never arrived.
Macjay
Jock was hugely influential but I think Bobby deserves some credit for what he made of his own football career.
The terracing pundit MIGHT have been right about his analysis but he was dead wrong with his prediction.
Celtic40me
It’s quite telling though that you haven’t managed to produce one post that is hailing our new signing.
In 4 conversations in the last hour you also haven’t tried to tell me how this is a good signing for the club, yet have had plenty of opportunities to do so.
Do you have an opinion on our new signing or do you just post to support all our board do?
SETTING FREE THE BEARS FOR RES. 12 & OSCAR KNOX on 12TH JANUARY 2020 9:54 PM
No argument from me on that score.
How do you define a £9m player?
Odsonne Edouard cost us £9m, his wages won’t be much over £1m a year for four years, max 1.5?
Vincent Jansen, one of the worst strikers I’ve ever seen play for a big club was sold by Spurs for £10m, I don’t know how much his salary is
Aaron Ramsey didn’t cost Juventus a penny, unless you count the 400 grand a week he gets paid. £9m is less than half a years salary
Tomas Gravesen possibly cost Celtic £9m
There are so many variables that come into the true cost of a player to a club, including, most importantly how successful they are, that means it’s far too simplistic to use a transfer fee value as a guide
Celtic40me
I certainly agree on that point hence why i was buzzing with Dembele for 500k and feeling underwhelmed for Patryk at 3.5M.
Gordybhoy it was Quoted in news now
Turkeybhoy to say all CEO are the same is tosh mate. I have worked and reported for numerous Who all report to a board and are all different
There is the CEO type who empowers his workforce let’s them do decisions , tends to get best out of employees and gets top people
Then there are the ones who decide everything , tend not to hold onto good employees , autocratic. Usually stunt growth as people can’t make decisions
You know and I know PL is latter
He surrounds himself with yes men and yes men are rewarded into positions that they don’t have experience in. John Kennedy an example of that
Mate of mine a sparky was doing work at Celtic park in jock stein lounge. Work could not start until peter lawell had approved the lights. Kids you not
There lies our problem. Even if we identified this project striker last month , it takes a long time to get peter lawells approval. Hence we stuffed every transfer window. Even ones where we have large amounts of cash
He must go in favour of a a good forward thinking CEO
Celtic40me, I know what you are saying but you have to start somewhere in trying to assess what we are at.
As I’ve already said I don’t have a clue how good Polish Paddy is and I’m sure the same applies to vast majority on here.
I’m as always just hoping for the best.
SID on 12TH JANUARY 2020 9:55 PM
It’s not telling at all
I’m excited at the signing. I’m realistic about the sort of player we look at, who we can attract to Scotland and what we can afford. Proven goal scorers are at a premium, particularly at this time of year, finding one who’ll be happy to play second fiddle to OE in January, on wages we can afford is an extremely hard job.
So, given that we’ve done well at signing strikers at similar stages of their careers recently I’m looking forward to seeing him and hopeful that he can develop into as good the player who’s place he’ll eventually take.
Sydneytim,
cheers for the reply,
any reports i had read suggested the figure to be much nearer
the £1 million mark,seems very low fee for a first team squad member.
Celtic40me
If we spend 40m of our 50m we have on players there is more a chance we will get ten in a row and qualify for CL
If we spend about 8m we have a less of a chance
Nothing is guaranteed You could have better success spending 8M to 50M
Point is there is more chance of success when spending more money
We have zero risk to our club as a going concern if we spent 40m in this window
Let’s get ten in a row. Let’s not gamble with cheap options
We can be frugal again after ten in a row
We have the money let’s do it
The top 4 people who huns want to leave Celtic…
Edouard
Brown
Forster
Lawwell
Bedfellowscsc
SYDNEYTIM on 12TH JANUARY 2020 10:19 PM
Celtic40me
If we spend 40m of our 50m we have on players there is more a chance we will get ten in a row and qualify for CL
On who?
Sydneytim,
you miss the obvious, its as big a gamble not to sign than to sign in fact bigger.
So there is a risk strategy at play, only its the strategy that could see supporters turn their back if they fail to win 9, a bigger gamble than investing in the team, however if selling the club is the end game then cash and equity makes sense.
Polish Paddy has arrived in Glasgow tonight
Celtic40me
That’s genuinely great to hear your excited at the signing, i just noticed a distinct lack of appropriate posts stating likewise, that was all my point was.
I have a really good memory i remember a number of positive posts when Bayo signed.
I debated recently with yourself we should be looking at a higher standard of striker and investing Edouard money on another striker, looks like we’ve gone down the cheaper road, like Bayo.
Which striker when they both move on will have cost the club the most money , Net, Edouard or Bayo?
CORKCELT
I’m always hopeful too
We’ve signed some players at similar stages of their careers who have gone on to be excellent players. I’m excited that we’re prepared to pay what is a decent amount of money for us on a relatively unknown player. I’m hoping the scouts have seen something in him.
Gordyboy. It was on news now. A source from Miami said they sign mostly free transfers
As Morgan being 1st choice at Celtic , only because of the summers shambles again
SID on 12TH JANUARY 2020 10:29 PM
Celtic40me
I debated recently with yourself we should be looking at a higher standard of striker and investing Edouard money on another strike.
I’m afraid I don’t remember that. I’d bet that if we could find another Edouard we’d pay that again. Although Edouard then wasn’t Edouard now. He’d be out our reach now
Celtic40me. I choked on my cornflakes when I saw you say that 3.5m was a decent amount of money for a striker
Omg You want us in the bargain bucket when we have cash sitting there feeding our CEO bonus
Celtic40me. Omg. Again you are happy that we don’t invest
That’s why proper clubs have football departments
I do hope you don’t put your rangers posters too close to your family
Fans like you would still like the Kelly’s and white in control