I hear from good sources at Celtic Park that despite Victor Wanyama declining to sign a contract extension since October last year, the player is an absolute joy to deal with. His professionalism is well rooted; there have been no “rolled out of the pub” emails about this guy, nor is there likely to be.
There are usually reasons why a player with the best part of three years left on his contract (as it was) declines a one year extension for dramatically better wages (Victor is on an entry level contract and was offered a top pay deal). We now know discussions were taking place for a proposed move to QPR last summer.
According to Victor’s agent, Celtic blocked the proposed move, costing the player £1m in wages. It could be argued that advising Victor to decline Celtic’s new contract offer also cost Victor a substantial sum.
Herein lies the problem. QPR were paying the kind of money that would make Louis XVI wince. Staggering sums were paid to players, well beyond their value. Despite this, those very same players are now readjusting to life as lower-division players.
The irony has escaped Vic’s agent, but the contract value proposed to the player during QPR’s pre-guillotine era made declining Celtic’s offer almost a year ago look like a good idea. The contract offered by saner-Southampton clearly pales by comparison, which will make the decision to sit on entry-level wages at Celtic for nine months look ridiculous. Of course people are getting irritated, there are questions to answer about the advice given.
My guess is that the agent needs to pull a big contract offer out of the bag. Victor is a special talent but Louis XVI-type offers don’t always come along in twos. If Victor goes, it will be to a club matching Celtic’s valuation and the money will come in handy. If he stays, Celtic expect to retain their top player for another two years. No one, and I mean no one, is distressed at this prospect, after all, Celtic sell when they choose to, not because they have to.
So the Daily Record have (for the second time, in case you’ve not been paying attention) dipped their toes into Charlotte waters. Items “leaked on to the internet, where they are openly available” have been used, without reference to source, and without concern for apparent legal consequence.
As far as I am aware, none of the owners of the material leaked have disputed their authenticity or declined permission for it to be used. Our media are a huge part of this story, they feature in galling terms in many of the leaked documents. The cry of legal probity was convenient, but has twice been shown to be nonsense by the Daily Record (who have been highly selective on who to target).
It is a huge story.
There are months of material waiting to be written about.
The Daily Record are doing what many said cannot be done, without consequence.
But, this one does not fit popular narrative, and is likely to cause the kind of schism Mme Guillotine did in 18th century France. Seek Truth, as someone once said.
Willie Wallace………… what can we say?
Willie came onto CQN last night before leaving for Australia today. This is a taste of what he said:
“I just wanted to come back onto CQN this evening to say my farewells as myself and Olive head back to Australia tomorrow. I would like to offer my heartfelt thanks to all the Celtic supporters I have met during the past month, at book signing events, in supporters clubs such as Greenock and at the CQN Golf Day.
“Also to everyone at the Lions Roar event last Friday where Bertie stole the show as usual! I came all the way from Australia and I couldn’t get a word in! The 1254125 charity tells you everything you need to know about Celtic supporters.
What is amazing about this Celtic family of ours is that when you live at the other side of the world you still know that this is a special club with wonderful supporters. Then you come back to Scotland and realise you actually under estimated these things because Celtic is even better than you remember and the fans are truly amazing. The best in the world.
“To everyone on CQN can I say a very special thank you. I hoped that the book would go well and we’d sell a few copies but it was never about money – it was about telling my story. I arrived at Winning Captains house and was met by a mountain of books to sign – all ordered by the CQNers. I had to go back another day to finish signing and the mountain was as big as before! I’ve been avoiding him ever since!
To Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan – when I heard his name I thought that would be some round of drinks! He’s been great, helping make Heart of a Lion what it is – a really good Celtic book – and turning up at the CQN events and book signings.
“Thank you the CQN’ers.
“Thanks to the Celtic family and I look forward to our next trip home to Paradise.
“Hail Hail and all the best to each of you and your families.
“Willie Wallace
“Keep the Faith!
“Hail Hail!”
Willie, it has been an utter joy. Thank you.
Heart of a Lion:
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BSR
Probably same height as Skippy and half his weight!
thomthethim @ 21.14
“he has the strangest castlemilk accent I’ve ever heard”
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Burghbhoy
My body doesn’t know what’s happened to it. No buckfast, MD20/20 or QC in weeks!!
There is a lot of support gathering for canalamar1 proposal and names are being gathered. Not just from CQN’ers but from supporters on Facebook and Twitter.
I have recently heard Peter Lawwell say that the people in charge of Celtic are custodians there to be challenged and held to account. He’s right.
There are 27,000 shareholders. I think we owe it to future generations to ask the right questions.
The wording of the question we ask is very important.
This is not an anti-board them and us stance. We are a family and sometimes families need to get around the table and discuss issues.
If you are a share holder, I’d ask that you unite with other shareholders. The more of us that unite, the most chance we will have of having a positive effect.
sipsini
22:09 on 26 June, 2013
What’s that about Castlemilk.? …..I was brought up in Castlemilk, and it was the center of the Universe,….still trying to work out which Universe, though …. LOL ….. FANTASTIC PLACE
I wonder whose job it is in the SFA to process , grant and forward to Switzerland UEFA licenses.
If it was Sandy Bryson that would be interesting.
bournesouprecipe
22:11 on 26 June, 2013
Hahahaha
asonofdan.
It’s not just shops shutting, that has to be addressed by the powers that be.
I dread my kids going into town when the cloven hooves are allowed to be tramp the streets.
maestro-number8
21:21 on
26 June, 2013
Drop me a mail, might be able to help.
celticrollercoaster@yahoo.co.uk
HH
CRC
67heaven…,
It’s a publicised fact, and why anyone would want to stray from the facts beats me, my philosophy is keep it simple and honest, you won’t go far wrong.
Trying to be too cerebral only opens it up to interpretation then ambiguity, that is the door open to dismissed, next caller please.
Even if we are leaving I’d like to leave behind a healthy system that will benefit everyone in the game, that can only lead to the destruction of the secret society mentality and that’s got to be a good thing for the whole country never mind the sport, no ?
praecepta
I can’t see Brasil winning the tournament, they are a far cry from even ten years ago.
Living on their past reputation, and Big Phil, imo, is no more a manager than the fat boy, without his side kicks, he would be well lost.
I can’t see Spain losing tomorrow, but you never know, free vino in the bar, but they are charging for tapas, 25c, so a feed before I go out is in order >}
HH
Canamalar.
Thanks for your answer.
Good luck with your plan.
Not sure how I am denigrating you or anyone.
Your continued negativity and moaning about our custodians is a matter of public record.
Maybe you will achieve your aim but it seems to me an odd way of going about it.
Well done putting your head above the parapet though.
As someone who has first hand experience if the ‘system’ working against them personally at the very top end for the very wrong reasons I can realky hope you succeed with your ultimate aim.
canalamar
In addition to the not crystalising stance reason given when questions asked in December 2011 his response on due process in September provided the 4 criteria which allowed an outstanding bill to be allowable with the implication that the bill whilst outstanding was allowable for licensing purposes as it was covered by one or more of the criteria.
The criteria that made it allowable was not stated and it could have been any one of four.
CF stuff appears to contradict both reasons.
Seems to me Canamalar is presenting a case based on known and published facts and asking the board if they have represented the shareholders of Celtic by raising the relevant questions. THe granting of the licence effectively took money from the pockets of shareholders, yes? Why would any shareholder not welcome the questions?
It further seems to me that many think he has a personal grudge against the board. Who else can he ask to look after the interest of shareholders other than the board?
I assumed he was wrong when he said this was all about personalities for some people on CQN. I now believe he was correct. That’s very wrong.
If his quest achieved the desired result and the board took his point on board and acted, will the same people who are decrying his efforts now turn on the board for clearly misrepresenting THEIR viewpoint?
morrissey the 23rd
22:15 on 26 June, 2013
Correct…the questions need to be the correct ones, to allow the Board to represent them to the SFA ….
TET
A bit unfair on Big Phil (he’s won a few things) – they might dive – can’t defend but they do play football without the kicking and elbowing!
:-)
praecepta
I think Barca are alraedy too lightweight, and the addition of Neymar makes them lighter【ツ】
Sizeist CSC
Looks like ill need to change ma bait!!!!<:o)
67 heaven.
Thomthetim and Tommysbhoy were having a debate about ray houghton…was just steering them in the proper direction as i was there first hand.
Where in the chateau did you hail from?…might know you 67.
canalamar1
I see now why you are saying it was a fact that the bill was outstanding.
However that of itself does not fulfill UEFA criteria to refuse a licence which requires the bill to be an overdue payable.
The SFAs position ( apart from the not crystalising reason) is that whilst outstanding it was not an overdue payable and so no reason to refuse a licence.
Both reasons on looking at CF stuff do not stand up.
Was impressed with the big URU guy who scored the goal. Who was he?
sipsini,
All true, but he is still a very annoying match analyist.
Telling us what A, B or C should have done.
He has dined out on two goals scored in the EC and WC for years.
As welcome and vital as those goals were, it does not justify a career in punditry.
However, many of the TV pundits are equally irksome.
I was at an AGM a couple of years ago when John Reid in response to a complaint from the floor about not liking something or other told the gentleman that there was a way to make change and that was through the mechanism canalamar1 is attempting to use to make the SFA accountable.
The debate on the resolution should try and keep that in mind.
The fact that the mechanism is not user friendly is something that in time might be the subject of a resolution from the CST.
BSR
They could have signed Hulk (for bulk) – he’s 2-3 kilos heavier than me (mind you he’s at least 40 years younger and slightly faster).
:-)
praecepta
Maybes a tad, but you are right, they don’t have a clue about defending, Thiago is a good defender, that’s about it, that Luiz fella, dearie me, even the english comentators know he canny defend, but he plays for an english club……
Spain or Italy will take them, of that I have no doubt.
A split second before the winning goal, did you see Luiz barging Cavani out of the way so he couldn’t jump to attempt to clear the ball, cheating barsteward, don’t like Brasil, never have done, even back when they were the best on the planet, no idea why, always wanted Argentina to win.
HH
canamalar1
Did you get my email with my shareholding details etc .
Keep up the good work mate .
HH
jude2005-
Scorer was Cavani-possible Moyes target signing.
TET
25cents? Robbery!” I’d go for a curry.
Oh thats right ye cannae lol.
Brazil to lose? Yer nuts. ;)
I tape MOTD and watch it later and fast forward the analyists. Saves me getting a stair heed.
jude2005
Cavani (Napoli) – has a 63M Euro buy-out clause (wants to go to R. Madrid).
Has averaged 33+ goals per season for past 3 years in Serie A.
sixo
Ta.
Decent player. Has Dunne signed yet??
Auldheid,
I get the bit bit about meeting 4 criteria however if that was the case I expect all 4 would have been identified, none were identified so that’s a great question right away,
If the board were advised of criteria met, can they identify to the shareholders all criteria offered which allowed the license to be granted ?
Then again it’s maybe getting a bit too complicated then.
Wriggle room, never gives clear and concise answers
Canamalar1
I salute your indefatigability!
Keep fighting the good fight.
Wish I could help but am only a mere ST holder .
Auldheid
Aye, rub it in, winker >}
Brasil will not win the tourny, I might even have a wee wager on that as well.
When you back over here ?
HH
TET
Think Luiz is one of the poorest current International defenders (with top sides) ………… but he plays for Chelski. One of the reasons Raffa moved him forward when he could.
fgf,
I arranged to meet you for a beer, your the second tonight who does not appear to have got my reply, the thick plottens :o)
Was at the Motorpoint Arena Cardiff last night for
“The Who Quadrophenia and More” gig.
A very good friend treated me :))))
Was absolutley fantastic……
Seen them first time around at Celtic Park 1976……
Then Wembley 79……
Ah those memories……
night night cqn, here’s to many more of them
for every £5 celtic spends ……
hahahahahaha so funny !
the silence on hearts desperate plight is disgusting