Victor’s contract offer, Charlotte and Willie

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I hear from good sources at Celtic Park that despite Victor Wanyama declining to sign a contract extension since October last year, the player is an absolute joy to deal with.  His professionalism is well rooted; there have been no “rolled out of the pub” emails about this guy, nor is there likely to be.

There are usually reasons why a player with the best part of three years left on his contract (as it was) declines a one year extension for dramatically better wages (Victor is on an entry level contract and was offered a top pay deal).  We now know discussions were taking place for a proposed move to QPR last summer.

According to Victor’s agent, Celtic blocked the proposed move, costing the player £1m in wages.  It could be argued that advising Victor to decline Celtic’s new contract offer also cost Victor a substantial sum.

Herein lies the problem.  QPR were paying the kind of money that would make Louis XVI wince.  Staggering sums were paid to players, well beyond their value.  Despite this, those very same players are now readjusting to life as lower-division players.

The irony has escaped Vic’s agent, but the contract value proposed to the player during QPR’s pre-guillotine era made declining Celtic’s offer almost a year ago look like a good idea.  The contract offered by saner-Southampton clearly pales by comparison, which will make the decision to sit on entry-level wages at Celtic for nine months look ridiculous.  Of course people are getting irritated, there are questions to answer about the advice given.

My guess is that the agent needs to pull a big contract offer out of the bag.  Victor is a special talent but Louis XVI-type offers don’t always come along in twos.  If Victor goes, it will be to a club matching Celtic’s valuation and the money will come in handy.  If he stays, Celtic expect to retain their top player for another two years.  No one, and I mean no one, is distressed at this prospect, after all, Celtic sell when they choose to, not because they have to.

So the Daily Record have (for the second time, in case you’ve not been paying attention) dipped their toes into Charlotte waters.  Items “leaked on to the internet, where they are openly available” have been used, without reference to source, and without concern for apparent legal consequence.

As far as I am aware, none of the owners of the material leaked have disputed their authenticity or declined permission for it to be used.  Our media are a huge part of this story, they feature in galling terms in many of the leaked documents.  The cry of legal probity was convenient, but has twice been shown to be nonsense by the Daily Record (who have been highly selective on who to target).

It is a huge story.
There are months of material waiting to be written about.
The Daily Record are doing what many said cannot be done, without consequence.

But, this one does not fit popular narrative, and is likely to cause the kind of schism Mme Guillotine did in 18th century France.  Seek Truth, as someone once said.

Willie Wallace………… what can we say?

Willie came onto CQN last night before leaving for Australia today.  This is a taste of what he said:

“I just wanted to come back onto CQN this evening to say my farewells as myself and Olive head back to Australia tomorrow.  I would like to offer my heartfelt thanks to all the Celtic supporters I have met during the past month, at book signing events, in supporters clubs such as Greenock and at the CQN Golf Day.

“Also to everyone at the Lions Roar event last Friday where Bertie stole the show as usual! I came all the way from Australia and I couldn’t get a word in! The 1254125 charity tells you everything you need to know about Celtic supporters.

What is amazing about this Celtic family of ours is that when you live at the other side of the world you still know that this is a special club with wonderful supporters. Then you come back to Scotland and realise you actually under estimated these things because Celtic is even better than you remember and the fans are truly amazing. The best in the world.

“To everyone on CQN can I say a very special thank you. I hoped that the book would go well and we’d sell a few copies but it was never about money – it was about telling my story. I arrived at Winning Captains house and was met by a mountain of books to sign – all ordered by the CQNers. I had to go back another day to finish signing and the mountain was as big as before! I’ve been avoiding him ever since!

To Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan – when I heard his name I thought that would be some round of drinks! He’s been great, helping make Heart of a Lion what it is – a really good Celtic book – and turning up at the CQN events and book signings.

“Thank you the CQN’ers.

“Thanks to the Celtic family and I look forward to our next trip home to Paradise.

“Hail Hail and all the best to each of you and your families.

“Willie Wallace

“Keep the Faith!

“Hail Hail!”

Willie, it has been an utter joy.  Thank you.

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  1. Morrissey the 23rd on

    I would like to thank everybody who donated towards my fiancé and I doing the Huddle on Ben Nevis.

     

    https://mydonate.bt.com/fundraisers/hughclark1

     

    https://mydonate.bt.com/fundraisers/sabadesfaye1#top

     

     

    I still have some money to collect from pledges. Some CQR’ers donated at the Q and A night in Blantyre, and some patrons of The Cross Keys in Wishaw also donated.

     

    CQNer themelvingael offered £100 for a picture of Jinky that was donated by https://www.facebook.com/pages/Four-Leaf-Clover/101056046747584 but I missed his post and sold it to the new proprietor of The Cross keys for much less. Doh!

     

     

    My fiancé went ahead while I went up with a friend who sadly had to turn back with a knee injury that he struggled with to almost the top. She waited at the top in the snow, while I arrived two hours latter, carrying her waterproofs and food. Thanks also to anybody who was nice to her while she waited on this auld man making it to the summit.

  2. Bin Living Dangerously…

     

     

    Bin Thinkin… Again.

     

     

    Every time Ah dae that.. Ah am playin’ wi’ Fire!

     

     

    Nothing Loath..or .. Loth..

     

     

    Ah hiv reached the conclusion that Victor…is Good.. But.. He is No GREAT.

     

     

    Noo ,if he wiz Great…like..say.. Henrik..

     

     

    Then—-Ma Elation, at the thought of getting a Big Sack full of Sovereigns ..in return for losin’ his Services.. wid be Tempered Mightily, by the Dismaying Thought of Losin’ a Great Player for the Celtic Cause.

     

     

    Howevahhhhhhhh..

     

     

    Ah am Happy tae relate.. that Because Victor is Merely,,,

     

     

    a Mere.. Good Player.. Ah can Happily and

     

    contentedly, enjoy, Ma Elation.. at the Thought of Receiving such A Great Big Bag full.. of Golden Sovereigns, in return, for losing his Services.

     

     

    Victor,in Ma opinion.. ( Ah hope ye are sitting doon, dear reader..)

     

    ADDS NOT ONE IOTA OF HELP .. tae the Celtic Cause!

     

     

    Yep.. He Looks Good Oan the Ba’..and He soitenly Stretches that Joisey.. tae Bursting Point.. fur He Soitenly has a Magnificent Physique.

     

     

     

    But..other than those things..

     

     

    When Awe is said and No said..

     

     

    Victor, when he is in the Team..

     

     

    Disnae Add Anything Mair.. than say.. Joe Ledley.. ( And ye know whit Ah think of Joe’s ..Normal Contribution tae the Cause.)

     

     

    In Short and it is beginning tae look like.. In Long.. tae..

     

     

    Victor, wull No Be MISSED.. !

     

     

    Ah believe..that the main thing that is Driving this Awe Inspiring and Unflagging Interest,in Obtaining the Services of Victor.. by several.. English Teams..

     

     

    Is his.. Appearance!

     

     

    He jist Looks the Part. He jist looks like a Great Player.

     

     

    Aye.. Folk are always . taken up . by a Person’s Looks.. ( I think it hiz tae dae wi’ Auld Doddery Darwin’s Theory of Natural Selection.. )

     

     

    Folk, Always Judge a Book by it’s Batter!

     

     

    Ah know Ah dae!

     

     

    They canny help it.. That is why.. Reckit and Coleman.. sell so much.. Brasso!

     

     

    Flash .. Sells.. Dull .. Disnae.

     

     

    And Victor,in Ma Honest opinion.. and Ah am being as serious as A Tax Audit.. when Ah Proclaim this..

     

     

    Is…

     

     

    Awe Hat..and Nae Cattle!

     

     

    Na.. Victor,when he eventually taks a Powder..

     

     

    Wull No Be Missed, not wan leetle bit, By the Celtic Team.

     

     

    Kojo

     

    Still.. Laughin’

  3. jude2005 is Neil Lennon \o/ on

    Got 3 threatening letters from EDF who I left over a year ago saying I owed them £128. Sent them back with a comment and they could whistle Dixie. Got a cheque this morn for £6.05p. W T H???

  4. canamalar1

     

     

    I received your email yesterday mentioning the beer in August sometime. I then sent you an email today with the requested shareholder information , its this email I haven’t had a confirmation to say that you had received it .

     

    Will meet up for a beer when your back .

     

    HH

  5. praecepta

     

     

    Did Ancelotti sign him ?

     

     

    Whatever he is brutal, never an international player, nearly 200 mill population and he gets a start, dearie me.

     

     

    Yer man Dante is a far better defender.

  6. A Ceiler Gonof Rust on

    Morrisey the 23rd @ 22.15

     

     

    And

     

     

    Twists n turns @ 22.20

     

     

    Very well said. Hats off to the both of you. Asking our board a valid question is not the act of treason some posters portray it to be.

     

     

    Keep going canamalar. Your efforts are gathering pace.

     

     

     

    Hail Hail

  7. Auldheid,

     

    Last point on the “wee tax case” due diligence would have identified if the bill had crystallised, the sums involved required due diligence, our “custodians” should have demanded due diligence, they should now be looking for compensation or complete regime change, apologies are unacceptable. In any other line of business (except banking) heads would be rolling, this is not the financial sector, we should be looking for higher standards than that.

  8. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on

    canamalar1

     

     

    22:18 on 26 June, 2013

     

     

    Absolutely, The SFA are an integral part of Scotland’s Shame / corruption …… half of the SFA would have been sacked if they had kept it simple / honest……..but, I am still confident that ‘truth and justice will prevail’ when the current BDO / Police investigations get to Court ….. This is not finished yet, not by a long shot …!!!!

     

     

    The license scenario should certainly be one of the questions for our board to represent into the SFA etc …… If our Board are ‘representing’ questions from Celtic supporters into the SFA etc, the LL cannot draw Celtic into this corrupt mess, thus diverting attention from the main areas of required focus…..

     

     

    I’m sure the vast majority of shareholders, including myself, are waiting to see the final draft……

  9. sixoclockatthechapel on

    Kojo-

     

     

    I think Big Vic is still only a baby in our Celtic shirt and will only get better the more he plays in it.The young man has a chance to make himself a legend in that shirt- should he so desire-I hope he does.I think another season at CP would do neither Celtic nor Vic any harm -I hope he views things likewise.

  10. canamalar1

     

     

    I doubt the Board even asked. All the questions came from bampots. Check your e mail.

  11. The Exiled Tim

     

     

    At last someone else who isn’t a Brazil fan. I spend my time planning the next round opponent for Brazil and England at big championships in the hope they face a good team.

     

     

    Argentina, Peru and Mexico rule.

  12. TET

     

     

    Think Ancelotti signed him just before he left Chelski – parting gift – ha! ha!

  13. canamalar

     

     

    Just imagine if your thing spurs the suits to do something, and the sfa are taken to task, and they are found out to be the corrupt scum that we all know they are.

     

     

    They will be wanting a statue >}

     

     

    HH

  14. Was at the Who gig in 1976, was absolutely awesome,so was SAHB!

     

    never seen them since Moon the loon died,just not the Who anymore without him

     

    Imho. Still my favourite band ever.

  15. .

     

     

    I Have Said it before..I Will say it again..

     

     

    Celtic FC Should advise Vic to stay at Least for CL Qualifiers put Himself in the Shop Window..If we get through make him a Offer he Can’t refuse..for another Year with Celtic FC..

     

     

    It’s a Win-Win..

     

     

    Oh..And Tell Him to sack His Agent..;-(

     

     

    Summa

  16. Thanks everybody for the support,

     

    If I’ve no answered you I will,

     

    right now I’m moonhowling in doha and I’ve got a day of meeting stupids, ooops stupid meetings, all day tomorrow, so please bare with me,

     

    right now it’s time for bawbaws

     

    Night night n

     

    Hail hail

  17. TET

     

     

    Curiosity got the better of me – so I looked him up.

     

     

    Signed on last day of January transfer window (undisclosed) from Benfica – fee was reputed to be in excess of 25M euros.

  18. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on

    auldheid

     

     

    22:58 on 26 June, 2013

     

     

    …..and didn’t ‘Bampots’ like yourself do a FANTASTIC job …….. one of the real bampots in Scottish Football is oor wee bampot keevins, the LL’s sally …… useless, and not very bright…..

  19. Auldheid

     

     

    Looking forward to it >}

     

     

    …………………………………………

     

     

    Allgreen

     

     

    We would be in the minority.

     

     

    I fell in love with Argentina when the english scammed their way to the WC in 66, boy did they hate them, a good enough reason for a 12 year old >}

     

     

    After that, Brasil were never going to be the team for me, their arrogance done for me.

     

     

    I quite like Chile as well.

     

     

    HH

  20. SixoclockintheChapel

     

     

    Ah canny argue yer Point,pal..

     

     

    Victor, in Fitba’ Terms..is ..as you sagely observe…is still in Nappies.

     

     

    As you know..or.. mebbe ye Don’t Know..

     

     

    Ah am a Great Believer in ..

     

     

    “Tellin’ it like it ..IS”..

     

     

    No..like a Loata Ither Folk..and in saying the Following.. You,pal. are Excepted…

     

     

     

    Aloata Folk deal in

     

     

    “Tellin’ it like THEY wid Like It tae Be.”

     

     

    So.. in the cold light of the Present Day..

     

     

    Victor, is not Awe THAT!

     

     

    He is Good. sure.. but so is Commons.. and Sammi(Sammi?).. yes Sammi..

     

    and Hoops.. and Matthews.. But..

     

     

    Like Him.. THEY ARE NO GREAT.

     

     

    Whatever Victor will amount tae..in THE FUTURE…is.. completely.. Unknown

     

    in the PRESENT.

     

     

    As of the time of writing..

     

     

    Ah say that Victor’s Contribution tae the Celtic Cause..such as it is.. at the PRESENT…

     

     

    Wull Not be Missed..

     

     

    Nice Chattin’

     

     

    Kojo

     

    Still.. Laughin’

  21. thomthethim.

     

     

    I tend to ignore the pundits and make my own mind up when watching a game, as most are up themselves.

     

     

    Wee question… Is anyone else having problems with their phone since orange got taken over?

     

     

    I stay in the southside of Glasgow and

     

    having a lot of problems with phoning and internet access.

  22. normanstreet49 on

    Bournesouprecipe……

     

    That pic looks more like that carzy mad sensational Alex Harvey who supported that day……

     

    Buts its the right day alright……. :)))))

  23. praecepta

     

     

    25 million, ffs, what a joke.

     

     

    I honestly thought Carlo had a better eye than that, but, if you have money to burn……..

     

     

    Can’t see him doing the biz at Real, the few supporters I have spoken to don’t want him near the club, I told them about a superb manager that is taking the scottish leagues by storm, but they werny convinced that they could keep him in pies >}

     

     

    HH

  24. sipsini

     

     

    Mobiles can be a problem in the southside when overweight middle-aged pop stars appear at Hamdump.

     

     

    9 out of 10 females are on; the phone, texting, tweeting – throw in Wifi and plod communications and the whole area goes to pot!

  25. Kojo.

     

     

    I usually agree with your points when you speak football.

     

     

    Wanyama can only grow in stature with experience, where be it with us, or another club…the bhoy has got what it takes…that is what other clubs see in him.

  26. TET

     

     

    Chiellini is 2 years older and Juventus paid approx 10M Euros for him – compare and contrast!